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[Crono]

Originally Posted by Damix2

But it is in the forum rules.

Is following the forum rules in the TOS? I think so?

[Aknts]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Is following the forum rules in the TOS? I think so?

I don't think it is. Plus can they have something so blunt like that? Like by agreeing to this you have to follow all rules posted. Then in the rules it says "You must send me $20." That mean you have to send $20 or there is legal trouble?

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Aknts

I don't think it is. Plus can they have something so blunt like that? Like by agreeing to this you have to follow all rules posted. Then in the rules it says "You must send me $20." That mean you have to send $20 or there is legal trouble?

Sometimes it helps to go back and go over the TOS agreement again, and/or the Graal Rules.
I have read them many times, mostly when I am asked a question related to them that I, as a Manager, needed to prove.

The forums are a part of Graal, so the TOS agreement includes the forums.
Therefore, the Graal rules in general, apply to the forums also, as well as the TOS agreement.
The forum rules are specifically for the forums, and must be followed.

[Chris]

Why must people be so confrontational over the stupidest things?

[Aknts]

Originally Posted by Chris

Why must people be so confrontational over the stupidest things?

I wasn't trying to be confrontational, I was just wondering. Sorry.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

How is that legal? Couldn't they get in trouble for that?

When a user signs up now it states ...

Forum Rules

Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

Although the administrators and moderators of Graal Communication Center (reserved for gold and vip subscribers) will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Graal Communication Center (reserved for gold and vip subscribers), nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of Graal Communication Center (reserved for gold and vip subscribers) reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

The rules posted in the announcement section isn't even included when you sign up now.

Then there is the Rule of Conduct set of rules.
Section 5. Chat and Forum. http://graalonline.com/docs/conduct.php?page=2


Section 20. Policy Violations. http://graalonline.com/docs/conduct....ge=6#violation

Policy Violations
Anyone found to be in violation of the policies described in this document, at the sole discretion of GraalOnline , will be subject to the following:
First violation: The user will receive a warning describing the breach of policy GraalOnline believes they have committed, either onscreen or via Email.
Second violation: If possible, the player will be temporarily locked out of the area of gameplay related to the abuse. For example, if a player is using abusive language to others in the Forum, s/he will be prevented from using the forum. If a player is disruptive in events, s/he will be prevented from competing in events.
Third violation: The user will be locked out of GraalOnline for a period of up to one month, and will be notified via Email.
Fourth violation: The user will be locked out of GraalOnline permanently without refund.

In certain circumstances, such as extremely abusive behavior, a user may be locked out without warning or notice of any kind. However, GraalOnline will follow up with an Email explaining why this step was taken.

There is a whole bunch of stuff to consider. I would bet there are many flaws in the whole system.

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Sometimes it helps to go back and go over the TOS agreement again, and/or the Graal Rules.
I have read them many times, mostly when I am asked a question related to them that I, as a Manager, needed to prove.

The forums are a part of Graal, so the TOS agreement includes the forums.
Therefore, the Graal rules in general, apply to the forums also, as well as the TOS agreement.
The forum rules are specifically for the forums, and must be followed.

And there is that crazy 2nd TOS that you agreed to when you registered for the forums.

Chris is right.

[Fox1545]

Originally Posted by Aknts

I don't think it is. Plus can they have something so blunt like that? Like by agreeing to this you have to follow all rules posted. Then in the rules it says "You must send me $20." That mean you have to send $20 or there is legal trouble?

No.
It means that you have to send $20 or terminate the agreement that permits you, among other things, to post on the forums.

One of the texts you virtually signed when registering your account says that Graal can terminate that agreement at any time and for any reason. I like that line very much.