The Sparring Thread

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Gamba_Legend

Umm Tort I remember all those people making it as Delt. spar champ (including me) before you ever did if you ever did.
The funny thing is, I'll get flamed for posting this.

The first four DSCs were won by Evenglare. The fifth was won by me. I remember this specifically because I had to beat Jeebs, Marvel, Alex, Dunez, and Sirand to get to the finals.

I also have a statue in Tahan for the 2004 Graalympics Championship and 10x wins on the DSC. That statue is a permanent statue which keeps me from playing the DSC.

And you? You're banned for using speedhacks in spars.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Malinko

Tortoise.

Enough said.

you lost that MALINKOOOOO JENKINS!!!11 respect you had :{

[Sword]

Please don't turn this into a flame thread guys.
It's going well so far, almost 50 votes!

[Gamba_Legend]

And you? You're banned for using speedhacks in spars.

not only are you a hypocrite but you're ignorant...
you're a hypocrite because like you were whining before about people accusing you for using trainers you make the same assumption about me.
you're ignorant because I had already clearly explained to another ignoramus named Chance that I was banned for a graphic I made used in a trainer that I never gave permission to.

Lastly, I've owned your ass before and I'll do it again.
I had that statue before you did I clearly remember that. (so stop with the tall tales you just manipulate *****s into thinking you're a god dressed in purple and white).
And I temporarily quit graal for awhile never being able to participate in the graalympics.
See you on the winning side of the court, Tort.
Fruitnublets.

[OasaTor_PK]

I post this for thou'

Evenglare
Delterian..?
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2
sparring

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yo oasator, its me evenglare, somethings wrong with my account on the forums, so can you post this for me on the forums in "The Sparring Thread" in the Playerworld forum.
Please and thank you

"Wow tortoise, get your facts straight. The first tournament was won by johnnywelsh and then I won four times as you said and then your title. You winning 10x+ is bull****. You won like 5 times and then after the third time you won they stopped editing the title, since most of the staff on delteria are veracity you got that bull**** statue in tahan, I won way more than 10x. I think you should "remember" more specifically."

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Gamba_Legend

not only are you a hypocrite but you're ignorant...
you're a hypocrite because like you were whining before about people accusing you for using trainers you make the same assumption about me.
you're ignorant because I had already clearly explained to another ignoramus named Chance that I was banned for a graphic I made used in a trainer that I never gave permission to.

Lastly, I've owned your ass before and I'll do it again.
I had that statue before you did I clearly remember that. (so stop with the tall tales you just manipulate *****s into thinking you're a god dressed in purple and white).
And I temporarily quit graal for awhile never being able to participate in the graalympics.
See you on the winning side of the court, Tort.
Fruitnublets.

It's not an assumption when the ETA bans you for USING SPEED HACKS. Your ban reason is still there today, log on Delteria, you will find you are banned for USING SPEED HACKS. It's not an assumption when it's proven. It's a fact. Saying you didn't use speed hacks is just plain denial of facts. The same goes for your claims of winning the DSC before I did. Absolutely never happened.

Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK

I post this for thou'

Evenglare
Delterian..?
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2
sparring

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yo oasator, its me evenglare, somethings wrong with my account on the forums, so can you post this for me on the forums in "The Sparring Thread" in the Playerworld forum.
Please and thank you

"Wow tortoise, get your facts straight. The first tournament was won by johnnywelsh and then I won four times as you said and then your title. You winning 10x+ is bull****. You won like 5 times and then after the third time you won they stopped editing the title, since most of the staff on delteria are veracity you got that bull**** statue in tahan, I won way more than 10x. I think you should "remember" more specifically."

You're arguing semantics, Evenglare. What's your point? Even if everything you said was correct (not that it is: I reached 10x wins before Kirby and Suoirafen asked me to trade for a permastatue) it doesn't change the fact that you are a washed up sparrer now. You never had double digit wins on Delteria, no one has except for me. You have had more TOTAL WINS on Delteria because I usually DON'T PLAY IN THE TOURNAMENTS. Congrats. You won DSCs the same reason Gate and Torrent win DSCs: I wasn't there to beat you. Give yourself a hand.

At one point you might have been better than me, but you sure as hell aren't now. Stop lying to yourself.

[NeoJenova]

Lets all just spar eachother and call it a day?

[diagram]

This is what I find hilarious about sword servers.
Everyone's got an ego that they're trying to defend.
As if the entire server's trying to imitate Misfit.

[Sword]

Originally Posted by diagram

This is what I find hilarious about sword servers.
Everyone's got an ego that they're trying to defend.
As if the entire server's trying to imitate Misfit.

It's like this on every server, and much more, on every game on the internet.
One thing I can say about 'sword' servers if you want see us selling our swords for $200 USD. So what do you think is better - defending your ego or turning so ridiculously competitive that you're willing to spend a week's paycheck on something you could never have otherwise?

Regardless, these arguements are old, I agree. I'm sorry if you don't agree with the list(s), but I'm not forcing a sway on your opinion, or asking that you even view this topic. And about this request for the people on this list to all just spar each other, something like that is happening. It's a 16-man, round robin tournament run by King Clops and Highlander. It's called the World Graal Fighting Circuit, or WGFC.

[Evenglare]

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

You're arguing semantics, Evenglare. What's your point? Even if everything you said was correct (not that it is: I reached 10x wins before Kirby and Suoirafen asked me to trade for a permastatue) it doesn't change the fact that you are a washed up sparrer now. You never had double digit wins on Delteria, no one has except for me. You have had more TOTAL WINS on Delteria because I usually DON'T PLAY IN THE TOURNAMENTS. Congrats. You won DSCs the same reason Gate and Torrent win DSCs: I wasn't there to beat you. Give yourself a hand.

At one point you might have been better than me, but you sure as hell aren't now. Stop lying to yourself.

It's funny because if you go to delteria and ask most people how much wins I had they would say the same thing I say, 10x+. "Stop lying to yourself", you never reached 10x hypocrit, (hypocrit was directed to that quote). I may be a washed up sparrer in your eyes but I can still beat you in sparring anyday. Your ego amazes me, after all the wins I have in spar tourney's I don't go around getting statues up around populated areas in delteria. "You never had double digit wins on Delteria, no one has except for me."-wow. How can you prove yourself if you "DONT PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS"? All I here out of your mouth is bull****, choke on it.

I was the only one in graal to get all of the statues on every server except classic AT THE SAME TIME. But do you see me making a statue on all the servers? LOLOLOLOL NO.

I'm better than you right now and always will be sry.

-btw post thing started to work, Before it just said "Could not find phrase throttle"

[Lord Sephiroth]

To be honest the only three people in Babylon's history to hold every statue at the same time were Me Tortoise and Stella.

[syltburk]

I would have won the monthly spar tourneys in babylon if there was any when Lord Helmut was manager. Owned.

[Bcs]

Tort, you weren't competitive after the new hit detection. Actually I was, I remember defending my N-Pulse Single Statue. I havn't sparred much, I've sparred in a few tournies for statues, and the ones that I have participated in I have won.



yo tort remember you gettin owned by onet on delteria? Yeah, you ran then had your little Veracity friends jail him for "Spar PKing," you. Yeah, Tort, remember the tag team tourney you played two people, and Exodus Dynasty and Myself faced you? You were clearly unhittable, and we pointed it out. Then the GP even slashed you, and you did not get hit, and you laughed about it and the GP only gave you a warning, because you have the staff on Delteria ***** whipped. only ***** tortoise seen is lookin in the mirror



p.s. tort, nice win in the 2004 graallympics, even though it was hosted by that no-name logicbot wannabe. yeyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz no one good participated either!!!

[Taevas]

by the way logicbot's actual nickname is *Hiro.

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Evenglare

It's funny because if you go to delteria and ask most people how much wins I had they would say the same thing I say, 10x+. "Stop lying to yourself", you never reached 10x hypocrit, (hypocrit was directed to that quote). I may be a washed up sparrer in your eyes but I can still beat you in sparring anyday. Your ego amazes me, after all the wins I have in spar tourney's I don't go around getting statues up around populated areas in delteria. "You never had double digit wins on Delteria, no one has except for me."-wow. How can you prove yourself if you "DONT PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS"? All I here out of your mouth is bull****, choke on it.

I was the only one in graal to get all of the statues on every server except classic AT THE SAME TIME. But do you see me making a statue on all the servers? LOLOLOLOL NO.

I'm better than you right now and always will be sry.

-btw post thing started to work, Before it just said "Could not find phrase throttle"

This post is outright denial of facts. I can say this because you've just reposted what you said in the first place. Re-read that counterarguement then get a new one.

To be honest the only three people in Babylon's history to hold every statue at the same time were Me Tortoise and Stella.

Rhea also, I think

I would have won the monthly spar tourneys in babylon if there was any when Lord Helmut was manager. Owned.

They were weekly. Did you even PLAY Babylon?

Tort, you weren't competitive after the new hit detection. Actually I was, I remember defending my N-Pulse Single Statue. I havn't sparred much, I've sparred in a few tournies for statues, and the ones that I have participated in I have won.



yo tort remember you gettin owned by onet on delteria? Yeah, you ran then had your little Veracity friends jail him for "Spar PKing," you. Yeah, Tort, remember the tag team tourney you played two people, and Exodus Dynasty and Myself faced you? You were clearly unhittable, and we pointed it out. Then the GP even slashed you, and you did not get hit, and you laughed about it and the GP only gave you a warning, because you have the staff on Delteria ***** whipped. only ***** tortoise seen is lookin in the mirror



p.s. tort, nice win in the 2004 graallympics, even though it was hosted by that no-name logicbot wannabe. yeyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz no one good participated either!!!

GPs don't moderate tournies on Delteria: ETs do. Nice story you made up.

Additionally, I don't brag about my 2004 Graalympics win any more than Neo brags about his 2003 win. It's just one of many spar tournaments I've won. If I was really "proud" of a particular graal accomplishment it would've been the week where I won Babylon, Delteria, UN, N-Pulse, Atlantis, and Engima Graal all in the same week, and then Classic the week thereafter.

by the way logicbot's actual nickname is *Hiro.

Or Tsukasa or Worm depending on which brother or cousin he is pretending to be to evade a forums ban

[Chris]

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

Or Tsukasa or Worm depending on which brother or cousin he is pretending to be to evade a forums ban

Nothing but net.

[syltburk]

Tortoise, how could they be weekly tournaments when there was like at the most 10 people online, it was like that at start.
In a matter of fact, yes I did play.

[Lord Sephiroth]

I was Events Captain at the time the whole BST thing started on Babylon with Outlaw.
It was monthly for about two tournaments, then we started doing weekly.
Outlaw got promoted and I was ETA so I ended up hosting three tournaments a week.

[Bcs]

tortoise, you still didn't spar after the new hit detection. and, you did not comment about the part where you were cought hacking.

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Bcs

tortoise, you still didn't spar after the new hit detection. and, you did not comment about the part where you were cought hacking.

I got 3rd in TTNST, 2nd in TTUTC, and beat the crap out of Cyclone and Quick Strike all in the span of this week. I obviously still am sparring. You, on the other hand, do not have a statue anywhere that I see.

To reiterate, I wasn't caught hacking. You made that story up.

Originally Posted by syltburk

Tortoise, how could they be weekly tournaments when there was like at the most 10 people online, it was like that at start.
In a matter of fact, yes I did play.

Well congrats on winning an eight man spar or something

[Cyclone]

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

I got 3rd in TTNST, 2nd in TTUTC, and beat the crap out of Cyclone and Quick Strike all in the span of this week.

Are you kidding me? LOL, first of all you came in 4th or 5th in the TTUTC, and your partner got dq'd for already sparing in the tourney, so it was you with two lives against me and Quick Strike, and we won, you didnt.. and quick strike still had 5.5 or 7 hearts left, and I took you out in one of your lifes yeah the one time you spared us you kicked the crap out of us nice lie tort your funny

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Cyclone

Are you kidding me? LOL, first of all you came in 4th or 5th in the TTUTC, and your partner got dq'd for already sparing in the tourney, so it was you with two lives against me and Quick Strike, and we won, you didnt.. and quick strike still had 5.5 or 7 hearts left, and I took you out in one of your lifes yeah the one time you spared us you kicked the crap out of us nice lie tort your funny

Printscreen photos tell a different tale

[Cyclone]

tort you didnt beat us, how could you have beaten us when we won the tt utc?

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Cyclone

tort you didnt beat us, how could you have beaten us when we won the tt utc?

I didn't say I beat you,

I said I kicked the crap out of you.

[Wormx2]

Technically, anyone who won top 3 positions in the Graalympics is a part of the best Graal sparrers. That would include;

2003
Neo-1
SL-2
Tsu-3

2004
Tortoise-1
(I forgot that last two. x-x)

And in you're list is only active sparrers. Otherwise you'd need to add a few people..

[Sword]

Originally Posted by Wormx2

Technically, anyone who won top 3 positions in the Graalympics is a part of the best Graal sparrers. That would include;

2003
Neo-1
SL-2
Tsu-3

2004
Tortoise-1
(I forgot that last two. x-x)

And in you're list is only active sparrers. Otherwise you'd need to add a few people..

I'm unsure what source of emotional support told you that, Tsukasa, but I don't see who validated the 'technicality' of that.
Oh, and I think it's pretty clear that this is a list of active sparrers. Didn't I mention that?

[Corp1]

1.) Who is the best sparrer on Graal? Brett
2.) Who are the top 10 sparrers on Graal, in order? (not in order) Brett, Neo, Ares, Thallen, Highlander, Quick Strike, Magnus, Deophite, Onet, FrozenHeat.
3.) What server is home to the best sparrers on Graal? UN or NP...pretty split since alot play both.

[Bcs]

ya, tortooooz, that's not a made up story; and you know it's true, but you can choose to lie about it as I don't really care, you suck. Oh P.S. Jesus Christ sends a holla winning the UTC yesterday, beating Neo 2-0 (evidently the best sparrer, as you kids "voted in the top sparrers list.") I'd also like to make note, that Neo did not announce he lost, banned Jesus Christ for IP Ban Evasion, and claimed that he won uploading his statue instantly.


gg guyz

[Cyclone]

okay tort you killed me, but that was on you 2nd life LOL, you may have killed me but me and qs took half of your health each on your first life, then on the 2nd one i spared till i died(when i did more then half the damage) so that totals me killing you slightly over once, and you killing me on your 2nd life, and that match wasnt the finals, we spared two more teams after killing you twice

[NeoJenova]

Originally Posted by Bcs

ya, tortooooz, that's not a made up story; and you know it's true, but you can choose to lie about it as I don't really care, you suck. Oh P.S. Jesus Christ sends a holla winning the UTC yesterday, beating Neo 2-0 (evidently the best sparrer, as you kids "voted in the top sparrers list.") I'd also like to make note, that Neo did not announce he lost, banned Jesus Christ for IP Ban Evasion, and claimed that he won uploading his statue instantly.


gg guyz

I did announce you won Shadow, on your Jesus Christ account using a proxy to avoid an IP ban and limiting your outgoing connection. I couldn't give you the statue and EP though because your not supposed to be on UN in the first place.

We resparred all the people you beat in your bracket, QS, Zeldaguardian, King Clops, and ThePunisher1212, out of those 4 sparring King Clops made it to the finals to face me and I beat him fair and square.

EDIT: I gave you the luxury of that ban knowing you would post it on here acting childish, I could of just said nothing and denied you even particpated in the UTC at all. Winning the UTC is not the reason I banned your account, I put that in your ban info for recognition since you would have none at all had I just banned you.

[Sword]

Originally Posted by NeoJenova

I did announce you won Shadow, on your Jesus Christ account using a proxy to avoid an IP ban and limiting your outgoing connection. I couldn't give you the statue and EP though because your not supposed to be on UN in the first place.

We resparred all the people you beat in your bracket, QS, Zeldaguardian, King Clops, and ThePunisher1212, out of those 4 sparring King Clops made it to the finals to face me and I beat him fair and square.

EDIT: I gave you the luxury of that ban knowing you would post it on here acting childish, I could of just said nothing and denied you even particpated in the UTC at all. Winning the UTC is not the reason I banned your account, I put that in your ban info for recognition since you would have none at all had I just banned you.

You should have banned him before the tournament, you knew. Basically, you went into the finals knowing that you'd win... even if he won.

Regardless, this isn't the UTC thread.

[NeoJenova]

Originally Posted by Sword

You should have banned him before the tournament, you knew. Basically, you went into the finals knowing that you'd win... even if he won.

Regardless, this isn't the UTC thread.

Say what?

Quick Strike, Zeldaguardian, ThePunisher1212, and King Clops had every chance to face and beat me I didn't know I was going to win I hoped I would win though.

Your are correct about one thing though, this isn't a UTC thread.

[Methril]

Where is the option for "I have never heard of any of them"

[Curt1zzle]

Originally Posted by Methril

Where is the option for "I have never heard of any of them"

I couldn't find it either.

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Wormx2

Technically, anyone who won top 3 positions in the Graalympics is a part of the best Graal sparrers. That would include;

2003
Neo-1
SL-2
Tsu-3

2004
Tortoise-1
(I forgot that last two. x-x)

And in you're list is only active sparrers. Otherwise you'd need to add a few people..

Kurse was 2nd and Brett was 3rd.

SL and Kurse don't play much now and Tsukasa lucked out, but I'd say Neo and Brett are both pretty good

Originally Posted by bcs

ya, tortooooz, that's not a made up story; and you know it's true, but you can choose to lie about it as I don't really care, you suck. Oh P.S. Jesus Christ sends a holla winning the UTC yesterday, beating Neo 2-0 (evidently the best sparrer, as you kids "voted in the top sparrers list.") I'd also like to make note, that Neo did not announce he lost, banned Jesus Christ for IP Ban Evasion, and claimed that he won uploading his statue instantly.


gg guyz

This is a funny post because the same thing kept me from advancing to the finals with a partner and winning. Hypocrite good sir?

Originally Posted by Sword

Basically, you went into the finals knowing that you'd win... even if he won.

Neo resparred his semis bracket and won them all.

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle and Methril

HO HO WE'RE IGNORANT AND DON'T KNOW ANY CLASSIC PLAYERS LAUGH AT US LOL!!

[Wormx2]

Luck has nothing too do with sparring.

[Sword]

Originally Posted by Methril

Where is the option for "I have never heard of any of them"

I don't think any of them have heard of you, either.

[Bcs]

Neo, that does not change the fact that I won fair and square. Regardless of avoiding an IP Ban, you suck. GG kid, demigod owned again damn easyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz when the competition gonna step it up a notch damn


tort owned ez ya always been easy damn


im just too far ahead mang

neo, post something trying to justify your loss, aka long essay of tears.

EDIT: Ya, I had 2 add one of these too neo, AHAHA 2-0 WHY YOU ALWAYS LOSIN SON??? EASY


RESPONSE TO TORTOISE: Cannot post yet....


LOL YO WAT ^ TORTOISE AKA ALF ALFA AKA BIG EASY AKA Dungeon N DRAGONZ

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tort8oq.jpg



p.s. ur intelligence is 2 far big 4 me 2 comprehend in the b-low statement damn u r smart u DnDer u....



I DROP A HOLLA YOU CAN FIND TORT @ www.uglygraalpeople.50megs.com

notice "uglygraalpeople," ya?

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Bcs

Neo, that does not change the fact that I won fair and square. Regardless of avoiding an IP Ban, you suck. GG kid, demigod owned again damn easyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz when the competition gonna step it up a notch damn


tort owned ez ya always been easy damn


im just too far ahead mang

neo, post something trying to justify your loss, aka long essay of tears.

Oh, so when Neo does it to me it's ownage but when he does it to you he's a laming ***got? That's great. Way to selectively recognize facts. The real "own" here is that you're too dumb to realize you're actually unflaming me by praising yourself as the winner of the UTC.

[ThinkDifferent]

(This is Fidel Castro Illusion / Joker Rain)

None of those people listed can be considered the best sparrers on Graal. As previously stated, with different lags and such, there are a lot of dependant variables (I think?). I have beaten all of them at least a few times, and some more than others. Tort doesn't win anywhere but Delteria, seeing as on Delteria he is never banned for toggle usage. When he comes to N-Pulse, he has never beaten me. Highlander beats me more than I beat him, but out of the rare times that we spar I do beat him also. I have only sparred NJ twice, and it was one a peice. There are many better sparrers than those listed, and instead of boosting your ego and saying that you can decide who is the best and who isn't, you should organize a Graal wide spar tournament.