Bel'la Olplyn

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Butz

If someone is known for doing shady dealings and causing problems, it doesn't really reflect well on your kingdom to let them in. It's called a background check.

You didn't answer my question.

The other weekend. Very specific. What sort of event was it, how many people attended, and what was the result?

If I was to attend the event, I would tell you. As I wasn't there, I can't answer that question. Kefkin told me he was hosting the event, I was informing you what he has told me.

Everyone. Kingdoms are NOT guilds. Let me repeat that to make it clear. Bold this time too. Kingdoms are NOT guilds . By speaking OOC all the time, the kingdom is made into a laughing stock of an RP group.

Just because they're not in character when talking it's now a guild? If the RP Team think Kefkin isn't representing Bel'la O' accordingly, you should tell him. Not everyone else.

"He called me a doodyhead OOC, so I'm going to attack his kingdom for NO GOOD IC REASON."
Just....no.

You obviously didn't understand what I was trying to address.
If Kefkin was on tag during the time of the 'insults', what's stopping you from not going to war?

[Butz]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

You didn't answer my question.

Yes. Yes I did. I said that if a person is known for shady dealings and causing problems, it reflects badly on the kingdom when that person is let in.
If you want an example, how about the bad reputation Samurai had about being the "kingdom of scammers" and letting everyone in?
Checking up on a person makes sure they will be a trustworthy and helpful member of a kingdom. Not simply a scammer out to lure other, less-knowing kingdom members into a false sense of security just so they can scam them again.

Just because they're not in character when talking it's now a guild? If the RP Team think Kefkin isn't representing Bel'la O' accordingly, you should tell him. Not everyone else.

If they're not in character when they're talking, when ARE they in character? Kingdoms are meant to be RP groups, and are also an integral part of the game, therefore they come under a bit more scrutiny than other groups. Kingdoms can also not be exclusionist. Even if there is intra-kingdom roleplaying going on, if they never speak in character to anyone else, they're not doing their job. Also, I never said I was speaking for the RP Team here, and as such, I'm allowed to post what I think as much as any other player.

You obviously didn't understand what I was trying to address.
If Kefkin was on tag during the time of the 'insults', what's stopping you from not going to war?

I'm not sure you understand yourself sometimes.
Read what's been stated please. The insults in question were OOC happenings. Starting a war with someone in a RP context because of insults that did not occur in RP, is nooooooo good.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Butz

Yes. Yes I did. I said that if a person is known for shady dealings and causing problems, it reflects badly on the kingdom when that person is let in.
If you want an example, how about the bad reputation Samurai had about being the "kingdom of scammers" and letting everyone in?
Checking up on a person makes sure they will be a trustworthy and helpful member of a kingdom. Not simply a scammer out to lure other, less-knowing kingdom members into a false sense of security just so they can scam them again.

Ah, I remember those days. Anyway, thank's for answering my question. Just because a player 'scammed' another player while they were in that kingdom, doesn't mean they'll do it again. If this player was to join another kingdom, the kingdom they were in before should bring this up to the leader of the kingdom they are currently in. If nothing is resolved, a certain event should occour.

If they're not in character when they're talking, when ARE they in character? Kingdoms are meant to be RP groups, and are also an integral part of the game, therefore they come under a bit more scrutiny than other groups. Kingdoms can also not be exclusionist. Even if there is intra-kingdom roleplaying going on, if they never speak in character to anyone else, they're not doing their job. Also, I never said I was speaking for the RP Team here, and as such, I'm allowed to post what I think as much as any other player.

So, you're not going to act on it with the RP Team. That's fine. I'm happy with that responce.

I'm not sure you understand yourself sometimes.
Read what's been stated please. The insults in question were OOC happenings. Starting a war with someone in a RP context because of insults that did not occur in RP, is nooooooo good.

Kefkin was on tag. That's now an RP matter. Not OOC.

[Butz]

Round and round we go, where it stops, nobody knows!

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Ah, I remember those days. Anyway, thank's for answering my question. Just because a player 'scammed' another player while they were in that kingdom, doesn't mean they'll do it again. If this player was to join another kingdom, the kingdom they were in before should bring this up to the leader of the kingdom they are currently in. If nothing is resolved, a certain event should occour.

And just because they scammed someone once doesn't mean they won't do it again either. This is why people have police records in real life, so someone can make a decision on whether or not they should trust a person. "Hey! This guy likes to steal! Let's make him the guard for the Hope Diamond!"

So, you're not going to act on it with the RP Team. That's fine. I'm happy with that responce.

Sir, these words that you have put here inside of my mouth, they are not mine (and they taste horrible). I never said I wasn't going to act on it with the RP Team, I simply stated that as a player, I'm free to come to the forums and express my concerns without it automatically being assumed that I'm speaking officially for the RP Team.

Kefkin was on tag. That's now an RP matter. Not OOC.

If everyone was in-character while they were on tag, oh what a wonderful place this would be. But you know as well as I do that it's hardly the reality. Perhaps if he was insulting him in a manner befitting the Drow, that could be considered in-character, but simply spewing insults for the heck of it? That's not RPing.