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Old 08-02-2005, 06:11 AM
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I agree with GK being for RP, but that does not mean that we should all be equal in strength. Obviously, this is not the case irl now and it has never been. We don't want GK to be Valikorlia, and we don't want to be Communist, har har, so why shouldn't certain people be stronger if they work harder for it instead of sitting on their asses and begging for everyone else to be brought down to their level?
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:18 PM
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I agree with GK being for RP, but that does not mean that we should all be equal in strength. Obviously, this is not the case irl now and it has never been. We don't want GK to be Valikorlia, and we don't want to be Communist, har har, so why shouldn't certain people be stronger if they work harder for it instead of sitting on their asses and begging for everyone else to be brought down to their level?
I dont think you understand...
I did work hard, I worked my ass off.

I had iron plate mail with an iron horned helmet. I had a simple diamond sword complete with some shield I dont remember. I remember making boots. None of these were enchanted or had special powers, it was all a fairly balanced system.

For exp you had the following to kill:
Shell Bomies (most exp)
Bomies
Evil Bomies
Bunnies
Mushrooms
and Battle Potatoes

That was -it-.

You couldn't take two of these creatures on at a time, else you would die. It would take a while to even hit a shell bomy, much more to actually kill it. I have 159597 exp and I'm at level 8. I entered the haunted houses when they were released, I was around level 7.

Now adays your friend can give you a sword that kills everything in the room in a second. Or a spell that can take everything out. I see people online with 10-20 hours and they're level 8.

So before you go off and start to say that the people who are pushing for everything to be equal havn't worked hard, you need to think again.

Equality in battle means that combat is based around skill rather then that sword of +1337 (slay Newb, everyone else lawlz)(Attacks: physical, heavenly) or whatever. Granted it still does not make Raziel the Shoemaker weaker then Elder Zurkiba Zaeri by RP means, but it's better then the levels and item system.

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I'm sure alot more players would still play GK. G2k1 going gold?
A Normal day when Jeff was the manager of Graal 2001 when it was Gold:
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:32 PM
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I dont think you understand...
I did work hard, I worked my ass off.

I had iron plate mail with an iron horned helmet. I had a simple diamond sword complete with some shield I dont remember. I remember making boots. None of these were enchanted or had special powers, it was all a fairly balanced system.

For exp you had the following to kill:
Shell Bomies (most exp)
Bomies
Evil Bomies
Bunnies
Mushrooms
and Battle Potatoes

That was -it-.

You couldn't take two of these creatures on at a time, else you would die. It would take a while to even hit a shell bomy, much more to actually kill it. I have 159597 exp and I'm at level 8. I entered the haunted houses when they were released, I was around level 7.

Now adays your friend can give you a sword that kills everything in the room in a second. Or a spell that can take everything out. I see people online with 10-20 hours and they're level 8.

So before you go off and start to say that the people who are pushing for everything to be equal havn't worked hard, you need to think again.

Equality in battle means that combat is based around skill rather then that sword of +1337 (slay Newb, everyone else lawlz)(Attacks: physical, heavenly) or whatever. Granted it still does not make Raziel the Shoemaker weaker then Elder Zurkiba Zaeri by RP means, but it's better then the levels and item system.:
I still don't understand what you're suggesting now.

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A Normal day when Jeff was the manager of Graal 2001 when it was Gold:
How long ago was that?
The graal community has changed. The playerworld with the most players is Unholy Nation. I don't think G2K1 can replace it.
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:39 PM
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I still don't understand what you're suggesting now.


How long ago was that?
The graal community has changed. The playerworld with the most players is Unholy Nation. I don't think G2K1 can replace it.
I'm not suggesting anything with the top, merely rebuttling against Raziel in his comment of 'I worked hard for my level, you can too'

That was in 2003.
And I've been in the Graal Community longer then you, and long enough to know that it has not changed that much. And any continuation of the change of Graal into a ruined piece of work will be due to people like you who let it pass by saying
'Things change'
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I'm not suggesting anything with the top, merely rebuttling against Raziel in his comment of 'I worked hard for my level, you can too'

That was in 2003.
And I've been in the Graal Community longer then you, and long enough to know that it has not changed that much. And any continuation of the change of Graal into a ruined piece of work will be due to people like you who let it pass by saying
'Things change'
Zurk, what other servers do you log on, other then Graal Kingdoms?
Obviously things change, you can't stop them from changing!
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:11 PM
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I dont think you understand...
I did work hard, I worked my ass off.

I had iron plate mail with an iron horned helmet. I had a simple diamond sword complete with some shield I dont remember. I remember making boots. None of these were enchanted or had special powers, it was all a fairly balanced system.

For exp you had the following to kill:
Shell Bomies (most exp)
Bomies
Evil Bomies
Bunnies
Mushrooms
and Battle Potatoes

That was -it-.

You couldn't take two of these creatures on at a time, else you would die. It would take a while to even hit a shell bomy, much more to actually kill it. I have 159597 exp and I'm at level 8. I entered the haunted houses when they were released, I was around level 7.

Now adays your friend can give you a sword that kills everything in the room in a second. Or a spell that can take everything out. I see people online with 10-20 hours and they're level 8.

So before you go off and start to say that the people who are pushing for everything to be equal havn't worked hard, you need to think again.

Equality in battle means that combat is based around skill rather then that sword of +1337 (slay Newb, everyone else lawlz)(Attacks: physical, heavenly) or whatever. Granted it still does not make Raziel the Shoemaker weaker then Elder Zurkiba Zaeri by RP means, but it's better then the levels and item system.


A Normal day when Jeff was the manager of Graal 2001 when it was Gold:
If you go back to my earlier post, you can see that I acknowledged your level as hard work for back in the day. But times change. You have a souped up Model T and want to race with the McLarens and Lamborghinis.
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