Pirates at the big 5 meeting.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

We can't change the way GK has changed. We can try, but I don't think they will like it.

Stryker, you didn't show any sign of not being OOC.

It changed once, it can change again. Nothing is permanent.
I'm not saying you should force people to roleplay all the time, but if there's an interkingdom event that needs to be roleplayed out, the outcome should be decided by roleplaying, not by who has the best items and stats. That is what GK was meant to be, and that's what we should be striving to make it.

Tell me, if GK was made for 'RPers' why in hell add the level system, overpowered items etc?

Design Flaw.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Butz

It changed once, it can change again. Nothing is permanent.
I'm not saying you should force people to roleplay all the time, but if there's an interkingdom event that needs to be roleplayed out, the outcome should be decided by roleplaying, not by who has the best items and stats. That is what GK was meant to be, and that's what we should be striving to make it.

Players would rather 'duel' and have a few 'wars' to show off their level and their items. Not many of the players would prefer this way, I wouldn't mind it. But players play to obtain a high level, and a rare item.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Players would rather 'duel' and have a few 'wars' to show off their level and their items. Not many of the players would prefer this way, I wouldn't mind it. But players play to obtain a high level, and a rare item.

Players can duel just fine. There's arenas for that, and they can fight as much as they want normally.
But, let me bold this so it gets through, events concerning kingdoms should be roleplayed out, and should not be determined by items and stats.

Please note that the information for GK on the serverlist says "Medieval Kingdoms" and not "Get the best items and be a showoffy jerk!"

[Raziel]

Ok, let's say that Zurkiba practiced the art of swordplay ever since he was 5 years old, and Raziel has been making shoes since who cares when, and without any physically demanding activity to keep him in shape. One day, Zurkiba and Raziel get in a fight, and they pull out their swords. Obviously, Zurkiba, who has spent most of his life perfecting his sword skills, is going to beat the crap out of Raziel, who has never touched a real sword in his life. Obviously, on GK now, Raziel who has been leveling heavily, will beat the crap out of Zurkiba who is stuck back in the day with level 8.


Edit: Har har looking back at the posts, I see it's my fault this post has gone astray xD

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Raziel

Ok, let's say that Zurkiba practiced the art of swordplay ever since he was 5 years old, and Raziel has been making shoes since who cares when, and without any physically demanding activity to keep him in shape. One day, Zurkiba and Raziel get in a fight, and they pull out their swords. Obviously, Zurkiba, who has spent most of his life perfecting his sword skills, is going to beat the crap out of Raziel, who has never touched a real sword in his life. Obviously, on GK now, Raziel who has been leveling heavily, will beat the crap out of Zurkiba who is stuck back in the day with level 8.

I guess, but I don't see the point in that post. What're you trying to address?

[Raziel]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I guess, but I don't see the point in that post. What're you trying to address?

I'm trying to say that leveling can be part of roleplaying. It is your character practicing hard to become a better swordsman, magician, alchemist, etc.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Raziel

I'm trying to say that leveling can be part of roleplaying. It is your character practicing hard to become a better swordsman, magician, alchemist, etc.

Yes, I agree with that.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Raziel

I'm trying to say that leveling can be part of roleplaying. It is your character practicing hard to become a better swordsman, magician, alchemist, etc.

Except that doesn't work with the current mechanics of Graal.
An adept wizard should be able to smoke any mediocre swordsman from a distance, but the way things are now, all they have to do is keep stabbing you, and your spells are useless. The way GK is, game mechanics and RP don't mix.

[Raziel]

Originally Posted by Butz

Except that doesn't work with the current mechanics of Graal.
An adept wizard should be able to smoke any mediocre swordsman from a distance, but the way things are now, all they have to do is keep stabbing you, and your spells are useless. The way GK is, game mechanics and RP don't mix.

Well, can you point me to a period of time when magic spells existed? No? Well then, we have no idea as to their power and usability, and GK can define that as it pleases.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Who actually said G2k2 was for roleplayers?

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Before the server went up, Stefan said it plenty of times.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I'd like to see some evidence for this if possible. I don't think GK was mainly for the RPers..

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

If only pulling up old old old omg that's old posts were possible.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

http://forums.graalonline.com/forum...ead.php?t=35130

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

You really deserve a cookie.

Ironically, the link provided directs you to a post by *unixmad NOT on how GK is for the RPers, rather the topic is game mechanics.

[StrykerTFFD]

Either you didn't read the second quote in Zurk's post...or are blind. It addresses the RP sense GK is suppose to have. So the first link provided, although about game mechanics, lists a great deal of things that are suppose to better the RP feel. They are also things that were promised and not delivered!

Have a...nah you don't deserve a cookie.