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Originally Posted by Thermo
Compatability is a key issue here. We're not going to upload something that's excessively broken, nor do we have the time to fix every single issue with every player submission. If its minor and easily fixed, we might. But as far as player submissions go... It is not our job to fix every little snafu. It is the responsibility of the submitter.
NOM had a very nice castle, BUT, I, personally, don't have the time OR the patience, that it would take to convert 150 levels of ancient npcs. (which is why it's not up)
Base point: the levels/NPC's that are online as playerlevels are online because they met the standards required, or were easily adjusted to meet them.
Want a playerhouse/level/world uploaded? sure, we can do that, just make sure it works first.
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Originally Posted by Stev
The fact that the Ventrue guildhouse thrived is because Ventrue had the time, the resources and the skills to produce what you see today. The levels are uploaded because they have been NPC Server compliant for a very long time. The levels are uploaded because they add content to the server. The levels are uploaded because they look half decent.
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Oh, so Ventrue's levels are up because NPCs all work perfectly for everybody and the levels rock? Ok, makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Leonis
The NPCs aren't broken, they were just never scripted right. We've tried to script them correctly, but we've yet to find sufficient literature to teach ourselves to do so proficiently.
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But... Didn't you guys just justify Ventrue's levels being up because the scripts work so well? That was the impression I was given.
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Originally Posted by Leonis
Asking for help on the NPC Scripting board would probably result in multiple flamings along the lines of, "MAEK YUOR OWN SKRIPT 1ST D0NT AKS FOR TEHM."
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*cries*
Honestly though. If they aren't done, why are they up?
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Originally Posted by Leonis
Looking at it from the other end of the stick, we have done well. No other guild has managed to submit a reasonable sized guild house with half decent content, so that must stand for something.
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While some guilds have submitted reasonably sized guild houses that were half decent, currently Ventrue's guild metropolis is neither an example of a reasonable sized guild house nor of decent quality. Anything less than decent is bad, so I assume your half-decent means decent, otherwise why would you brag about having bad levels?
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Originally Posted by Leonis
Please do provide some examples of poor levels, and then provide some suggestions on how to improve them. "Constructive critisism" springs to mind, and it works a lot better than "Bashing."
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I've been trying to get ahold of you on the server. It was sure tough to track you down too, in player, when not getting a response to my pm. Unfortunately, you only moved once every few seconds, as if you had an anti-idling bot running so you could gain hours. Or perhaps you were ignoring me, saying words to you that you would have seen when you occasionally moved a step. If you did ignore me, then I there is no need for you to make this request.
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Originally Posted by Leonis
I defend my correct statements with insults because the first punch was not thrown by me. You fight fire with fire.
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It could be invalid if the NPCs were working properly. My house screamed predefined objects? Just because I don't put grass tiles (predefined object's name: well) on roofs (ala Ventrue) doesn't mean my levels are
that bad.
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Originally Posted by Leonis
I love how I mentioned your choice of outfit.
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Yes, you do seem to love to hear yourself talk.
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Originally Posted by Leonis
state.pngs? What version are you using? Linux? rofl
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Windows. Normally I only get this problem the rare time on a heavily-under-construction playerworld that wouldn't qualify for the hosted tab.
05-23-2005, 01:02 AM
We want something to do for Christ's sake. I think I rambled a bit.
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