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Old 03-27-2005, 02:17 PM
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Yes, the Classic NPC server may have been worked on for over 3 years... but this does not mean that I had 3 years of completed stuff to work from. I had to make the decision to rework it all from scratch, which was a hard decision to make, but in the long run, is the right one. Simply 'uploading the old levels pack' is one of the major reasons I took the decision. Many old scripts dont work with NPC Server, and the ever nearing full switch to GScript2 would have on complicated things further. Classic was already too buggy, I didn't want to make that worse.
Why is development taking so much longer when it could be done so much faster? That's my #1 question.
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Old 03-27-2005, 02:28 PM
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Why is development taking so much longer when it could be done so much faster? That's my #1 question.
Possibley because they're putting ALOT of effort into it?
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Old 03-27-2005, 04:12 PM
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Possibley because they're putting ALOT of effort into it?
That makes no sense.
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Old 03-27-2005, 05:14 PM
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Then why does it have a weird ass hit detection system that is nothing like classic graal?
I don't know.
But I was thinking more classic levels-wise.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:48 PM
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Classic wont be classic becuz the players aren't with us anymore... Its the players that made classic, not the server itself.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:54 PM
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Classic wont be classic becuz the players aren't with us anymore... Its the players that made classic, not the server itself.
But old players can not even feel nostalgia there any longer, because it has been torn apart so badly.
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:22 PM
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Classic wont be classic becuz the players aren't with us anymore... Its the players that made classic, not the server itself.
Yeah, but many of these players quit because Classic changed.
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:29 PM
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Yeah, but many of these players quit because Classic changed.
I quit because of the changes that Storm decided to intoduce. I have noticed others quiting aswell.
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:35 PM
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Then why does it have a weird ass hit detection system that is nothing like classic graal?
Because Storm prefers to rescript everything rather than use the "Classic" scripts.

Why remove non-NPC Server servers anyway? Classic was working fine before the NPC Server.
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:43 PM
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Why remove non-NPC Server servers anyway? Classic was working fine before the NPC Server.
Ask Stefan, it wasn't Storm's decision.
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:58 PM
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Then why does it have a weird ass hit detection system that is nothing like classic graal?
Because theres no other choice.

Answering that question has become rather tedious and tiresome now.
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Because theres no other choice.
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:25 PM
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Because theres no other choice.

Answering that question has become rather tedious and tiresome now.
and we are tired of saying, no, you had another choice. Leave it alone as there was nothing really wrong with it.

If you try and counter with some type of error in the default system, I'll post all the bugs in the current one, which are far worse.
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:21 PM
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:30 PM
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Because theres no other choice.

Answering that question has become rather tedious and tiresome now.
Well, being that nearly every other server uses an unaltered movement system, I'd like to know why there was no choice but to change yours!

I have heard that "Stefan told to". However, it seems very odd to me that:

A) Stefan would tell a manager of a server what content to add/change, if the current content was acceptable.

B) Stefan would desire to alter Classic in such a way.



I think the main point here is, much like 2k1, the condition of this server does not represent the amount of time there has been to work on it.

2k1 is a Development server, and has TONS more content than classic, so what is justifying allowing classic to remain under the classic tab?
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