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[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by fexii

But not everybody's judgment is correct. Why do innocent people get sentenced to death?

Because of our imperialistic system in which they cannot afford a good lawyer to prove they're innocent...? I doubt you could prove your innocence in a situation like that!

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by fexii

If he isn't a moderator now then it doesn't make a difference. That's like saying if you were President once then you know what its like to be President now. Times and people change, and so does the job of the moderator

How does it change?

But not everybody's judgment is correct

So therefore we should assume that all judgements are inaccurate?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by fexii

I'm not saying that he didn't do a good job or that he wasn't a supermod at some point.

Kai's been a supermod before. He knows what the job entails.

If he isn't a moderator now then it doesn't make a difference. That's like saying if you were President once then you know what its like to be President now.

That's a false analogy, though. This community is fairly small and not exactly as volatile as the national/international community that the President deals with. The job description just doesn't change that much over such a short amount of time. (Neither, really, does the office of president from one president to the next - and, we are comparing the previous supermod with a current one here.)

Times and people change, and so does the job of the moderator.

Can you identify some of these changes? Cause, yaknow, I don't think there've been that many so as to change the fundamentals of moderating these forums.

Plus maybe Kai has more time to devote to these forums than other moderators did, but it doesn't mean the moderators now aren't trying.

What does it matter if they are trying or not? Isn't what they do more important?

But not everybody's judgment is correct. Why do innocent people get sentenced to death?

You're begging the question. Try again!

[fexii]

I'm not here to say that I know exactly what goes on behind the forums, I was agreeing with Darlene that Kai couldn't pass judgment on her position. And how are you all so sure that the forum doesn't change? Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not happening. I only came to this forum a few weeks ago and already I've influenced things that happen, or we wouldn't have this discussion. A grain of rice tips the scale, and if every person on this forum is a grain of rice, then you can't tell me that nobody joined the forums since Kai left as supermod. As small a community as it may be, as long as there are new and possibly radical people, lot's of things do change. And I don't even have to identify these people because every person that enters the forum influences it in some way or another, changing the "fundamentals" of moderation.

And even if there is little change I don't see reason to call moderators lazy. Lazy is a judgment on somebody's personality, not their work. As a programmer I understand that a lot of work goes unnoticed on the inside but rather the faults on the outside stand out much more. You can't call a programmer lazy just because he hasn't done anything that you can see, for all you know he's been working on the program day and night. I'm not proving that this is necessarily true in the case of this forum, but to call a moderator lazy without knowing everything that goes on is unfair.

I know we can nitpick at this topic for days longer, so i'm going to stop here. I'll let anybody else post whatever final opinions they believe and then I want this topic to remain about my signature script

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by fexii

And how are you all so sure that the forum doesn't change?

How does the forum change?

And even if there is little change I don't see reason to call moderators lazy. Lazy is a judgment on somebody's personality, not their work

It's a judgement of her personality, but it's based on her work.

Are you saying that nobody can ever judge anybody else's personality? That pretty much all judgements are inherently inaccurate?

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

And let this be the end of disrupting this thread.

PUNISH THEM IN THE NAME OF THE MOON!!!!!!111

[hottstuff911]

is it post to say Error:hottstuff911 does not disply Online Status?

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by hottstuff911

is it post to say Error:hottstuff911 does not disply Online Status?

Only if you haven't listened to what people have told you.

[hottstuff911]

where and how do i set it in my profile and do i add it on my graal profile???

[hottstuff911]

nvm i got it to work now

[Xcessive54321]

lol i think my sig should work now

[Lance]

Originally Posted by fexii

I'm not here to say that I know exactly what goes on behind the forums, I was agreeing with Darlene that Kai couldn't pass judgment on her position. And how are you all so sure that the forum doesn't change?

And how are you so sure that it does!!!

Can you yet provide some examples? Further, can you show how these examples change the fundamentals of moderation?

Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not happening.

Kaimetsu and I both spend an inordinate amount of time at this forum. Just what is there that we can't see?

I only came to this forum a few weeks ago and already I've influenced things that happen, or we wouldn't have this discussion.

You posted something doofy, causing others to call you on it. What exactly is that influencing other than people's opinion of you?

A grain of rice tips the scale, and if every person on this forum is a grain of rice, then you can't tell me that nobody joined the forums since Kai left as supermod.

You must really enjoy non sequitur.

As small a community as it may be, as long as there are new and possibly radical people, lot's of things do change.

Like what?

And I don't even have to identify these people because every person that enters the forum influences it in some way or another, changing the "fundamentals" of moderation.

How? You're justifying a claim that things change by saying that things change. Stop begging the question.

And even if there is little change I don't see reason to call moderators lazy. Lazy is a judgment on somebody's personality, not their work.

You surely cannot be serious. Look it up, dude.

As a programmer I understand that a lot of work goes unnoticed on the inside but rather the faults on the outside stand out much more. You can't call a programmer lazy just because he hasn't done anything that you can see, for all you know he's been working on the program day and night. I'm not proving that this is necessarily true in the case of this forum, but to call a moderator lazy without knowing everything that goes on is unfair.

As Kaimetsu said, he can judge them based upon what he does see. There is enough that he has seen that they have not done (and, in some cases, something they have done that they should not have) for him to be able to do so.

[Xcessive54321]

lol to many post lol does sig work on classic servers?

[fexii]

thanks lance, i dont need to hear you repeat yourself over.

Yea the signature should work on every server you go to. There's no way to fix the "server is lagging" part, even in Loriel's script, it's just the graal page taking too long to download.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by fexii

thanks lance, i dont need to hear you repeat yourself over.

So you refuse, then, to justify your claims? How dull.