Signature

hottstuff911 · #1 03-17-2005, 02:04 AM

can any one tell me the code to make your Signature say that your on a server or if you not on a server it says not on a server please tell me this
code for the Signature.

Kaimetsu · #2 03-17-2005, 02:10 AM

Well, there isn't any official way, but Loriel provides a service for this kind of thing. Just find somebody else who uses it and copy the URL, adapting the relevant sections.

fexii · #3 03-17-2005, 04:53 AM

Here is a guide made by the person who created the script http://ilfirin.org/graal/gadgets/gstatus.rbx . And make sure that in your profile you have "Show online status" checked, or the script won't work.
Or, as Kaimetsu said, just look in a profile and change relevant sections.

As a side note for people who are wondering how this works, and I thought this was pretty ingenious:
the cgi script downloads the public viewprofile.php for that user and scans the file for certain text that would only appear if the player was online. If that text is found then it will return a rendered image (GD tools) that says the player is online, otherwise it will return a rendered image saying the player is not online. it's simple in concept but for somebody who's never seen it before, the script seems pretty ingenious to me. I'll probably design a PHP version of this in the future, just for practice and good measure

And specfically for hotstuff911, heres the code you might consider using
http://ilfirin.org/graal/gadgets/gst...t%20on%20Graal
all in an image tag

Zero Hour · #4 03-17-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fexii

Loriel stuff

Loriel's version is made in Ruby, but it's still (very) possible to make it in PHP :P. I was going to make one of Fairyland:Europe but MagicalTux wouldn't put the values in the profiles... the only other option I had was to have the script search, potentially, hundreds of pages for the user's account name and then to get the ranking... but that would take a loooooong time (;

Skyld · #5 03-17-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Loriel's version is made in Ruby, but it's still (very) possible to make it in PHP :P

I made a version in PHP like it but it optionally checked if they were on the forums too, but I never did actually put it anywhere.

fexii · #6 03-18-2005, 06:10 AM

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Loriel Stuff

Out of curiosity, where did you get this quote? I don't remember ever saying that...

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Originally Posted by Skyld

I made a version in PHP like it but it optionally checked if they were on the forums too, but I never did actually put it anywhere.

Ooo that's neat

I tried but I can't find any server with GD image library installed

Zero Hour · #7 03-18-2005, 08:58 PM

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Out of curiosity, where did you get this quote? I don't remember ever saying that...

I didn't want to quote then entire topic, waste of visual space, so I just gave the general idea of what I was quoting from your post.

fexii · #8 03-18-2005, 09:15 PM

I think you have me mixed up with Kaimetsu. I didn't say anything about Loriel, I just gave the script and an idea of what it does.

Kaimetsu · #9 03-18-2005, 09:40 PM

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I didn't say anything about Loriel, I just gave the script and an idea of what it does.

Well, yeah. But talk about Loriel's script could be referred to as "Loriel stuff".

fexii · #10 03-20-2005, 03:48 AM

ohh it's Loriel's script? I don't know who wrote it, I just looked at the source code and explained it.

fexii · #11 03-23-2005, 08:12 AM

I feel this double-post is relevant. After many pains I made a PHP version of this script

It works in basically the same way, but mine has a transparent background with outlined text. The text changes color based on the message. Also there are more messages that are each clearer if you run into an error with the script. Theoretically the script is faster too, but i don't notice much of a difference.

To configure the script is simple, just use this format

http://www.vwebnet.com/fexii/graalstatus.php/<name>

where you replace <name> with your graal account. Then stick that whole URL in an image tag and it should work from there. If there's any errors let me know.

Also, I probably won't host this script forever, so if anybody is willing to then i'll be glad to hand over the script to another server.

Mitch · #12 03-25-2005, 12:24 AM

Although, he doesn't want to bother saying it you should keep his original quotes seeing as how it is his opinion. It doesn't require you to type anything you can simply click the 'quick quote' button.

Kaimetsu · #13 03-25-2005, 12:57 AM

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Although, he doesn't want to bother saying it you should keep his original quotes

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that Zero Hour should've quoted all of fexii's text?

Zero Hour · #14 03-25-2005, 06:56 AM

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Hosting.

I will host your script after I look it over, if that's what you wish.

Xcessive54321 · #15 03-25-2005, 02:13 PM

mine might work, but i doubt it

Mitch · #16 03-25-2005, 10:55 PM

Yes, I'm saying that he probably should no effense to you Zero but it could be considered disrespect to modify someone's text.

Zero Hour · #17 03-26-2005, 01:33 AM

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Previous post.

I don't think so.

Xcessive54321 · #18 03-26-2005, 02:38 AM

probalay i got to put <script> or <name> or <graal> before it?

Kaimetsu · #19 03-26-2005, 03:43 AM

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Yes, I'm saying that he probably should no effense to you Zero but it could be considered disrespect to modify someone's text.

The rules specifically say that you shouldn't quote huge posts. The moderators are actually supposed to enforce those rules, but they don't, because they're lazy. Anyway, there's nothing offensive about giving a neutral summary or trimming the extraneous sections.

Darlene159 · #20 03-26-2005, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

The moderators are actually supposed to enforce those rules, but they don't, because they're lazy.

I am certainly glad that you think you know it all.....

Kaimetsu · #21 03-26-2005, 04:33 AM

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I am certainly glad that you think you know it all.....

What, is this gonna devolve into some espousement of hard agnosticism? We experience things, we form opinions. Just as you have formed an assessment of my attitude, I have formed an assessment of yours. It happens to include a complete sense of apathy for any rules that don't revolve around punishing unruly children.

fexii · #22 03-26-2005, 10:08 AM

No thanks Zero, Maniaman was already kind enough to host for me =D

Kai, Darlene is not saying that you can't form an assessment or be agnostic. The point is that she believes your assessment is not accurate, and I have to agree with her. You as well as anybody else doesn't know what the Moderator has to go through to keep these forums stable. For all you know every Moderator is some dying person trying to provide for eight children and maintain these forums at the same time. Blatantly calling a moderator lazy is unfair, even if it is your opinion.

Kaimetsu · #23 03-26-2005, 10:38 AM

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Kai, Darlene is not saying that you can't form an assessment or be agnostic. The point is that she believes your assessment is not accurate

She did not challenge my assessment. She challenged my belief that I had knowledge on her attitude.

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You as well as anybody else doesn't know what the Moderator has to go through to keep these forums stable

Oh, really?

fexii · #24 03-26-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

She did not challenge my assessment. She challenged my belief that I had knowledge on her attitude.

Well be it as it may, unless you are her, you can't make judgments of her. The fact that everything takes place over the net worsens the situation. Many people don't act the same when they chat in text, so it's unfair to throw accusations around. If you said that the boards could use more moderation that's understandable, but it doesn't mean that the current moderators are lazy at all.

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Oh, really?

Really.

Kaimetsu · #25 03-26-2005, 11:20 AM

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Well be it as it may, unless you are her, you can't make judgments of her

That's a ridiculous statement. Any person can judge any thing.

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Really.

Haha, I'll let your argument be judged by those that know a little more about the board.

Darlene159 · #26 03-26-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

She did not challenge my assessment. She challenged my belief that I had knowledge on her attitude.

Actually, what I was saying is that you cant see what I do in forum PM's or whatever, so you cannot say what I do and dont do...

fexii: Kai used to be supermod of these forums

And let this be the end of disrupting this thread.

Kaimetsu · #27 03-26-2005, 04:43 PM

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Actually, what I was saying is that you cant see what I do in forum PM's or whatever, so you cannot say what I do and dont do...

Well, I can see what you don't do. I see all the things that haven't been moderated.

Zero Hour · #28 03-26-2005, 05:07 PM

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You as well as anybody else doesn't know what the Moderator has to go through to keep these forums stable.

Uhm... Fexii... Kaimetsu was a mod here for... what? 2 years, perhaps more (Yes, I'm a considerable nub on these forums) and while he moderated the forums were very stable, and he did an excellent job.

fexii · #29 03-26-2005, 05:27 PM

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Uhm... Fexii... Kaimetsu was a mod here for... what? 2 years, perhaps more (Yes, I'm a considerable nub on these forums) and while he moderated the forums were very stable, and he did an excellent job.

I'm not saying that he didn't do a good job or that he wasn't a supermod at some point. If he isn't a moderator now then it doesn't make a difference. That's like saying if you were President once then you know what its like to be President now. Times and people change, and so does the job of the moderator. Plus maybe Kai has more time to devote to these forums than other moderators did, but it doesn't mean the moderators now aren't trying.

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That's a ridiculous statement. Any person can judge any thing.

But not everybody's judgment is correct. Why do innocent people get sentenced to death?

Mitch · #30 03-26-2005, 05:36 PM

However, I have seen many of your forum pm's, in which most cases went directly to me and I agree with kai.

A position would have never been taken from kai, without his personal consent or resignation, because of the respect the global staff have for him. Now, in my opinion I don't think that should be used against him.

Zero Hour · #31 03-26-2005, 05:41 PM

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But not everybody's judgment is correct. Why do innocent people get sentenced to death?

Because of our imperialistic system in which they cannot afford a good lawyer to prove they're innocent...? I doubt you could prove your innocence in a situation like that!

Kaimetsu · #32 03-26-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fexii

If he isn't a moderator now then it doesn't make a difference. That's like saying if you were President once then you know what its like to be President now. Times and people change, and so does the job of the moderator

How does it change?

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But not everybody's judgment is correct

So therefore we should assume that all judgements are inaccurate?

Lance · #33 03-26-2005, 10:10 PM

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I'm not saying that he didn't do a good job or that he wasn't a supermod at some point.

Kai's been a supermod before. He knows what the job entails.

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If he isn't a moderator now then it doesn't make a difference. That's like saying if you were President once then you know what its like to be President now.

That's a false analogy, though. This community is fairly small and not exactly as volatile as the national/international community that the President deals with. The job description just doesn't change that much over such a short amount of time. (Neither, really, does the office of president from one president to the next - and, we are comparing the previous supermod with a current one here.)

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Times and people change, and so does the job of the moderator.

Can you identify some of these changes? Cause, yaknow, I don't think there've been that many so as to change the fundamentals of moderating these forums.

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Plus maybe Kai has more time to devote to these forums than other moderators did, but it doesn't mean the moderators now aren't trying.

What does it matter if they are trying or not? Isn't what they do more important?

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But not everybody's judgment is correct. Why do innocent people get sentenced to death?

You're begging the question. Try again!

fexii · #34 03-26-2005, 10:46 PM

I'm not here to say that I know exactly what goes on behind the forums, I was agreeing with Darlene that Kai couldn't pass judgment on her position. And how are you all so sure that the forum doesn't change? Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not happening. I only came to this forum a few weeks ago and already I've influenced things that happen, or we wouldn't have this discussion. A grain of rice tips the scale, and if every person on this forum is a grain of rice, then you can't tell me that nobody joined the forums since Kai left as supermod. As small a community as it may be, as long as there are new and possibly radical people, lot's of things do change. And I don't even have to identify these people because every person that enters the forum influences it in some way or another, changing the "fundamentals" of moderation.

And even if there is little change I don't see reason to call moderators lazy. Lazy is a judgment on somebody's personality, not their work. As a programmer I understand that a lot of work goes unnoticed on the inside but rather the faults on the outside stand out much more. You can't call a programmer lazy just because he hasn't done anything that you can see, for all you know he's been working on the program day and night. I'm not proving that this is necessarily true in the case of this forum, but to call a moderator lazy without knowing everything that goes on is unfair.

I know we can nitpick at this topic for days longer, so i'm going to stop here. I'll let anybody else post whatever final opinions they believe and then I want this topic to remain about my signature script

Kaimetsu · #35 03-27-2005, 03:45 AM

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And how are you all so sure that the forum doesn't change?

How does the forum change?

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And even if there is little change I don't see reason to call moderators lazy. Lazy is a judgment on somebody's personality, not their work

It's a judgement of her personality, but it's based on her work.

Are you saying that nobody can ever judge anybody else's personality? That pretty much all judgements are inherently inaccurate?