Graal2001

[zell12]

Originally Posted by protagonist

All Tseng has done since this thread has been created is change existing staff rights a little. He has logged on twice.

I know someone who sent in a LAT application. No reply email in two days.


It's more of the same.

I dont know what to tell you. I never seen him in a while now, almost 3 days I think. Must be busy doing something. So uh, just wait.

[LogicBot]

The "New" Graal players just don't like Graal2001. Bring it up, leave it on until Graal dies. So what if no one plays it.

[Emily_Cruddas]

My question is will it be under the gold server tab again? It could be pretty tiresome for lots of trial players to come and i KNOW some will be so dumb as to ask for help on something you just helped them do.



"i r stuck, help!"


"Just stand still for 30 seconds...count them...and type unstick me"


"how do i do that???"

Someone actually did this and i had the misfortune in dealing with it.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by LogicBot

The "New" Graal players just don't like Graal2001. Bring it up, leave it on until Graal dies. So what if no one plays it.

You are mistaken.

http://www.graal2001.com/community/g...php?image=1108

And this is when it was on GOLD.

Myself and Excalibur have toured the various Classic servers asking if people would play.... literally, dozens of people said they would live on it.

If G2k1 is to be released on the Classic tab, and if the proper things have been done to it mind you, then I believe it will have the potential to get 400+ players.

The key of Graal is G2k1, if it is released the oldbies will come back and the newbies will flock to it.

Originally Posted by Emily_Cruddas

My question is will it be under the gold server tab again? It could be pretty tiresome for lots of trial players to come and i KNOW some will be so dumb as to ask for help on something you just helped them do.



"i r stuck, help!"


"Just stand still for 30 seconds...count them...and type unstick me"


"how do i do that???"

Someone actually did this and i had the misfortune in dealing with it.

It will be on the Classic Tab

Plus we'll have FAQ

[LordMatt]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

You are mistaken.

http://www.graal2001.com/community/g...php?image=1108

And this is when it was on GOLD.

Myself and Excalibur have toured the various Classic servers asking if people would play.... literally, dozens of people said they would live on it.

If G2k1 is to be released on the Classic tab, and if the proper things have been done to it mind you, then I believe it will have the potential to get 400+ players.

The key of Graal is G2k1, if it is released the oldbies will come back and the newbies will flock to it.


It will be on the Classic Tab

Plus we'll have FAQ

Ehh 400 tops....come now classic got like 250-300 so the tops could be 300

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by LordMatt

Ehh 400 tops....come now classic got like 250-300 so the tops could be 300

300 on Gold...

You could easily double that. Personally I hope they have to buy a new server to host 2k1

[Crono]

I cant wait until you get a playerbase of 30 after 1-2 weeks, I'll laugh my ass off because of your expectations.

[xAndrewx]

300 players don't even play graal..
max i see on 2k1 is 10 after its been released

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

300 players don't even play graal..
max i see on 2k1 is 10 after its been released

Players Online: 663
9/27/04 - 3:42 EST

Nice going

Plus it will be higher then 10 as six people still play it today.

[osrs]

So, are the things going good now? I mean, is there any progress and such?

[xAndrewx]

wow, a one off

2k1's died and always will be dead.. like when people got bored after a month when lance and angel was owners.. you people say you'll play but when it comes down to it you'll all just say it's crap from the time it's spent in development.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by osrs

So, are the things going good now? I mean, is there any progress and such?

Hah. Nope.

Stefan went on and added Zurkiba, and then Lance removed him and left a typical, Lance-style note complaining about adding people.

Lance, people wouldn't harass you if you would do stuff. The only time you show up is when something happens related to 2k1; you never actually cause anything to happen.

This is quite tiresome. We could be using that server space for money. Instead it's being wasted by someone totally undedicated.

[Kuza]

Well spoken, Lance and Zurkiba.

I shall unveil my identity to you. My name's Kuza and I've always been committed to Graal2001's development and longivity. I back both of you 110% and give to you my support.

If you would like help with levels and storyboarding then I am your man! Please let me know if you would like the help. I've always believed in G2k1's survival. You can't listen to the rubbish these pessimist feed to you. G2k1 will rise above the ashes!

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Kuza

Well spoken, Lance and Zurkiba.

Are you pretending that Lance and Zurkiba are cooperating? You don't know much about what's going on. The pessimists are the ones who want 2k1 to succeed.

[nullify]

T minus 2 weeks until work ethic decreases.

[xAndrewx]

rofl
$20 says if zurk gets manager he won't finish it

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

rofl
$20 says if zurk gets manager he won't finish it

He'll get further than it is now.

[xAndrewx]

yeah i guess so but then so will brad or anyone else put as manager

[TESTRETIS]

I wanted to apply for LAT back in September I think it was Lance, If you still want/need my help let me know

[Brad]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

yeah i guess so but then so will brad or anyone else put as manager

lol no

id probably be in a bad mood and delete everything

[osrs]

I don't want to look stupid but don't you people think that Graal2001 needs more different staffs? I'm not saying that the current ones should be replaced, but some new staffs would be good, the staffs are always the same. That'd accelerate the process too.

[Kuza]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Are you pretending that Lance and Zurkiba are cooperating? You don't know much about what's going on. The pessimists are the ones who want 2k1 to succeed.

No. I thought they both explained their points successfully. I was simply showing my gratitude and applauding their relentless efforts. To what caliber this expectation will end at, I do not know. They sure do make it all sound worth while though.

[Kuza]

Originally Posted by osrs

I don't want to look stupid but don't you people think that Graal2001 needs more different staffs? I'm not saying that the current ones should be replaced, but some new staffs would be good, the staffs are always the same. That'd accelerate the process too.

Yes... diversity brings about change. When you have different people in a mix then you have new grounds for fresh ideas waiting to be born.

[xAndrewx]

haha brad

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Kuza

Well spoken, Lance and Zurkiba.

I shall unveil my identity to you. My name's Kuza and I've always been committed to Graal2001's development and longivity. I back both of you 110% and give to you my support.

If you would like help with levels and storyboarding then I am your man! Please let me know if you would like the help. I've always believed in G2k1's survival. You can't listen to the rubbish these pessimist feed to you. G2k1 will rise above the ashes!

Based on what I have received so far and seen, I would be interested in having you on the team, if nothing else than to give input. Please send me an email and we can work something out.

That said, I would like to thank those of you who (instead of condemning Graal2001 before it's even had a proper chance at a revival - and, no, it hasn't had a proper chance at one) are willing to take a step forward, rather than backward. "Waste of server space"...I'm even more disappointed in you than I was before, VT, and I was very disappointed in you before. It's cool that you don't like me very much, but I don't think it's too much to ask for you to not criticize everything involving me as a result.

Regarding applications: I received one application from LordMatt, which was already once-before rejected. I'm not going to suddenly change my mind about his application just because I want progress on Graal2001. My standards are unchanging, guys. They're high, and that's tough.

Regarding my online time/activities: I'm currently not online every day. It happens that I have several classes and a busy schedule. I'm on enough to log on dev, to read emails + forum PMs, to answer questions, and to coordinate the actions of my staff.

[xAndrewx]

could you post updates weekly?

[osrs]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

could you post updates weekly?

That would be really nice.

[brock128]

Originally Posted by nullify

T minus 2 weeks until work ethic decreases.

2 weeks?

I'd say 11 minutes.

Originally Posted by Lance

That said, I would like to thank those of you who (instead of condemning Graal2001 before it's even had a proper chance at a revival - and, no, it hasn't had a proper chance at one)

How long have you had the server? Honestly, I think by NOW you should have SOMETHING.

And yes to weekly updates.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Lance

That said, I would like to thank those of you who (instead of condemning Graal2001 before it's even had a proper chance at a revival - and, no, it hasn't had a proper chance at one) are willing to take a step forward, rather than backward.

Please. You haven't been taking any steps, forward or backward.

Originally Posted by Lance

"Waste of server space"...I'm even more disappointed in you than I was before, VT, and I was very disappointed in you before. It's cool that you don't like me very much, but I don't think it's too much to ask for you to not criticize everything involving me as a result.

It's not my fault that 2001 is what I said it is. If you don't like what you're hearing, change it instead of complaining about it.

Originally Posted by Lance

Regarding applications: I received one application from LordMatt, which was already once-before rejected. I'm not going to suddenly change my mind about his application just because I want progress on Graal2001. My standards are unchanging, guys. They're high, and that's tough.

Did you email him about it?
Besides that, if your standards are so high that they are going to make development impossible, change them too.

Originally Posted by Lance

Regarding my online time/activities: I'm currently not online every day. It happens that I have several classes and a busy schedule. I'm on enough to log on dev, to read emails + forum PMs, to answer questions, and to coordinate the actions of my staff.

You don't have any staff.

[zell12]

Lance has been on alot now and IS doing something. Like he said, he wants people to help -- I know I could use it -- but they are not up to his standards. How can you guys say he is not moving foward, when in fact, he is?


Also, anyone who wishes to help myself with the levels, and you have been rejected by Lance, or you don't think you are to his standards, please email me and i'd be happy to help you and give you tips. Please don't IM me on aim or msn about this stuff, because most of my time online is going straight into my studies or into Graal2001, and i'm only doing this as a favor.

My email is [email protected]

[Crono]

excalibur, can you post a sample of what style is expected, etc?

for the better of everyone of course

[zell12]

Well, I'm going to have a chat with Lance again tonight, because you and some others have reminded me of some things. So i'll discuss that with him and get back to the forums with a nice description and some screenshots mabey.
That good?

[xAndrewx]

leik wan could help if u ask him

i do agree with vt thouh

[zell12]

Wan is great for getting alot of levels dont quickly, with fair detail. I haven't seen a real "nice" level I don't think. But it has been a long time.

[xAndrewx]

dnt change subject.. im sure if u need him you'll ask.

oh yeah, is there any updates from before this thread? forgot to ask

[zell12]

I wasn't changing the subject, by the way.


Also, do you mean like any updates to the server? If so, yes there were. Alot of them actually.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Please. You haven't been taking any steps, forward or backward.

And how would you know...?

It's not my fault that 2001 is what I said it is. If you don't like what you're hearing, change it instead of complaining about it.

I don't think you'd like me editing your posts. Also, 2001 isn't what you said it was - that was kinda my point. Please return to your hole.

Did you email him about it?

I've spoken with him before. That suffices.

Besides that, if your standards are so high that they are going to make development impossible, change them too.

No. I refuse to sacrifice the quality of this server.

You don't have any staff.

Wrong-a-roo, unless Gryffon and Excalibur mysteriously disintegrated when I wasn't looking...I'd better check on that.

[LogicBot]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

You are mistaken.

http://www.graal2001.com/community/g...php?image=1108

And this is when it was on GOLD.

Myself and Excalibur have toured the various Classic servers asking if people would play.... literally, dozens of people said they would live on it.

If G2k1 is to be released on the Classic tab, and if the proper things have been done to it mind you, then I believe it will have the potential to get 400+ players.

The key of Graal is G2k1, if it is released the oldbies will come back and the newbies will flock to it.


It will be on the Classic Tab

Plus we'll have FAQ

That was when it was reopened. every new server when it goes public will have 100+ players on it. They want to see it, but then just like Enigma, Bravo, and beforehand Graal2001, it will fail, and will probably be taken down. so just put it back on tab, leave it up like Classic so you can all go play if you feel like it-but then their'ed only be 30 players max on it, but thats better than nothing.

It won't be back to the way it was, ever. Give up.

[zell12]

Originally Posted by LogicBot

That was when it was reopened. every new server when it goes public will have 100+ players on it. They want to see it, but then just like Enigma, Bravo, and beforehand Graal2001, it will fail, and will probably be taken down. so just put it back on tab, leave it up like Classic so you can all go play if you feel like it-but then their'ed only be 30 players max on it, but thats better than nothing.

It won't be back to the way it was, ever. Give up.

Umm, Graal2001 had like 400+ people playing it and it had a constant 100 or so every day. We can achieve that again.

[Emily_Cruddas]

I only quit when i had to buy a new home, comp and whatnot, But yes, i'll be there all day every day to get everything and then some....Maybe even a playerhouse.