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Old 11-24-2004, 04:55 AM
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Hi, I'm Lance. I've played and worked with Graal for a number of years now. I manage Graal2001.

Let me tell you all a story, one which you should be familiar with. Perhaps it was never explained in full, or perhaps people would rather believe what they want to believe, but ahead lies my tale. The chronology may be a bit off in some points, I fear. That, however, is only because this story spans a long timeframe.

Graal2001 has been fighting death since the moment Stefan ceased being its manager. The decaying process started slowly and sped up mightily with the release of Graal2002. At the same time, the server also had to fight a number of problems, included but not limited to staff issues, management problems, and poor direction. When Kamuii was manager, I found it hard as a prospective staff member to contact him. It was Rabid the co-manager who ended up hiring me after I'd spoken with him about the situation. From there, my scripting talents grew, and over time I rose in the server's ranks. Kamuii was removed, Jeff was instated. I thought it was a good idea at the time - unfortunately, I could not have been more incorrect. Jeff had done every single possible thing wrong as a manager. In fact, he himself became guilty of every mistake and behavior he accused Kamuii of - inactivity, failure to hire staff, and on top of all of that he made poor management decisions.

In fact, Jeff completely ignored the input of every other staff member, choosing instead to go forward without thinking. Releases of certain things, timings, it all went against our input. I had spoken with him on several occasions that we needed to restore the kingdoms. He said no every single time, citing "Managerial veto" as the reason against it (instead of justifying it). Immediately after promising to speak with me before hiring anyone, he hired someone who I had (at the time) had a problem with. This person, I perceived, was unfit to be a Graal2001 staff member. However, Jeff hired him without speaking with me. At that point, I came to the conclusion that this problem with Jeff was irreconcilable, and I quit. It was a very painful day, for I always loved Graal2001 dearly.

Time passed. Jeff continued to be manager, nothing was going on, and he was working against (rather than for) the progress of the server. I grew dissatisfied, and spoke with Stefan on several occasions to try to achieve some change on the server. Jeff hastily hired James and appointed him his Co-manager, that his legacy would continue.

Jeff resigned. James and Stefan and I discussed the server's future. What came out of it was that James and I would work on managing the server together while somehow avoiding stepping on each others' toes.

Well, that didn't work out. James hired a few people who didn't work, and James himself did not sign on that terribly often. At the time I was spending every minute of my free time with Graal2001. The team and I worked towards fixing the problems and crafting the new material.

Time passed yet again. The staff slowly stopped showing up, citing school or other activities as reason for this. Weeks would pass where I was the only staff member on, with perhaps one other person signing on for a minute or two. These people had become my friends as well as my coworkers, and I wanted to believe in them and their abilities. They made great stuff, which (I'm sorry to say) can't be said for most developers around Graal. I'd hired a few new people, and stayed on waiting for them to show up so I could give them direction.

Time passed. The staff kept promising me how they'd be more active soon, only to leave without me ever hearing a word from them. I fired a few people, and removed a few more. I hired some more people, to try to keep it going.

Eventually, circumstances beyond my control in my life did not allow me to stay on RC so consistently. We still went forward, though by this time it was horribly slow. It was known that Graal2001 was looking for staff, and many applications were received and reviewed. Unfortunately, they just did not reach the quality mark that we wanted for the server.

At some point around here, Mmmmkay returned from the void he had disappeared to. He suggested I hire someone named Shadowless, who he stated was good with levels. I did, and it was one of the best decisions I'd ever made. Around this time, too, Scott sent me some messages asking if he could help out. Things never looked better - we had a skilled graphics artist, a skilled levels and graphics artist, and a scripter as our active staff. The thought in my mind, "What couldn't we accomplish?" Unfortunately, the answer was "Everything," but I will get to that soon enough.

[Insert release of the server without kingdoms (and subsequent failure) because "That's what the players wanted - the server. It doesn't need to have kingdoms, they say!" Yeah, right. That didn't work.]

Kingdoms. Ugh. The Kingdoms were the cause of this last huge delay.

We wanted new kingdoms. More specifically, I wanted them and the other staff agreed that it was the best choice. At this time, we had perhaps 10 staff members, four of which could be depended upon..

Roleplaying conferences were held. The new kingdoms were decided upon, and the results posted. The next step? Building them, of course.

How did the awesome new kingdoms end up, after several months?

Kaitou: Geno was working on it. Where'd he go? Lamer was working on it. What happened? You can answer these questions as well as I can, which is not at all.

Bellasera: Shadowless and Thak worked on this kingdom. They did an excellent job, and it only required a few scripted items. CheeToS crafted a glorious NPC which you will hopefully get to meet someday who wanders the Bellasera gardens watering plants. A sundial was to be crafted, and the job was assigned to a scripter. That scripter could not do it, so it was then given as a 'suggested task' for a scripter who wished to work for Graal2001. Did I ever hear back from them? Nope.. Still, I had no idea that they would take so long, so I patiently waited. This kingdom was almost finished - it just requires a few final things.

Malenth: The new, dark medieval kingdom which I had personally planned on joining. Ahh, Malenth. Signas was behind its concept and design. Pir promised to help with it, and had indeed done some work on it with Signas' guidance. However, Pir encountered some problems and could no longer help out. Not only that, but the finalized levels were not sent to me. There goes a few months of waiting. This kingdom, as a result, has not made much progress at all..

"Zorbi": The new fish kingdom that lacked a definite new name. Progress was made, the kingdom looks beautiful. Shadowless outdid himself on this. I am uncertain as to the final result - I was never given a final summary of the status of everything before...

The days eventually came when both Scott and Shadowless resigned. Real life matters and deciding to invest their time and skill in something more professional than Graal were the reasons they left.

Since then? Not much has happened, as you know. I've talked to quite a few people about joining the ranks of the Graal2001 staff. They've either given me vague answers or said they weren't interested in working here.

"So, what happened to all your staff?"

They disappeared. Most who disappeared without a trace were removed. Some were kind enough to tell me that they did not have the time anymore before disappearing.

If Zurkiba's efforts have raised enough interest that more folks are interested to help out (and, as a result, I am indeed hiring two people who have offered assistance), then I must thank him for that. I must say, however, that it would certainly seem that Zurkiba has returned to Graal with the intention to take over Graal2001. I don't appreciate that, and I sincerely hope I am mistaken in perceiving that.

Here is my proposition to you folks: We move forward, not backward. Excalibur will be working with Gryffon and myself to finish up the works-in-progress, and we will be acquiring new staff as we go. I've wiped the staff list, and will entertain applications and requests to help out. You folks know my email address to send your applications/samples to.

If any old staff are interested in coming back, you are encouraged to contact me as well.

I understand that you folks are tired of waiting...So am I.

Let's get this done.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:08 AM
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You get your act together and come to me if you need anything. I will go ahead and tell you I will NOT write a huge speech every two weeks.

As for the me wanting to take over 2k1... I'll tell you after you've completed the server. I'm just an 'Instigator of Change' as I told Nappa the other day. I have also compiled a list of various bugs that you yourself can work on that your LATs can not. I will PM them to you.

So let us move foward... as brothers... and finish 2k1. If you do not finish it then my respect will be gone. I am overjoyed to see that now you have started to do the work for the server and I too will be working with your staff to keep them motivated.

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Old 11-24-2004, 05:15 AM
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You get your act together and come to me if you need anything. I will go ahead and tell you I will NOT write a huge speech every two weeks.

As for the me wanting to take over 2k1... I'll tell you after you've completed the server. I'm just an 'Instigator of Change' as I told Nappa the other day. I have also compiled a list of various bugs that you yourself can work on that your LATs can not. I will PM them to you.

So let us move foward... as brothers... and finish 2k1. If you do not finish it then my respect will be gone. I am overjoyed to see that now you have started to do the work for the server and I too will be working with your staff to keep them motivated.

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Old 11-24-2004, 05:22 AM
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I for one accept this step forward with you, especially since you have been co-ordinating the updates thus far and are more experienced + talented (development wise particularly) than Zurkiba. I believe the standstill is not only forgive-able but has been justified by Lance. It isn't right to remove someone when they decide to put effort into something with another that will merely show the same activity and isn't surely as competent. I have faith in Lance.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:27 AM
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Well, i'm glad to be a part of the project again. Hopefully we can pull together and finish what is left soon.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:50 AM
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:55 AM
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:11 AM
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:18 AM
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:19 AM
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:47 AM
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Not really, and I was flabbergasted by some of the reasons provided. Ie. The reason Shadowless and I quit.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:00 AM
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Not really, and I was flabbergasted by some of the reasons provided. Ie. The reason Shadowless and I quit.

Well, all I can say is I hope I'm wrong.

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Old 11-24-2004, 01:05 PM
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And i hope future 2001 staff read this! Make sure your life allows for sitting many hours on the computer since that's what graal needs to work, I have a job but that's it, i dislike going out and having a good time because i can keep myself planted right here and chat with real folks anytime i want.



So help me if lance hires you and you wind up not doing your job i'll reach through my screen and plant five across your faces. >=(
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Old 11-24-2004, 01:23 PM
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I'll finish whats left with gryffon quick as I can, but Graal doesn't come before interaction with people IRL.
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Old 11-24-2004, 03:12 PM
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I really hope that I will be able to play Graal2001 again. I had a bad past in that server and I expect to change that.
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I'll finish whats left with gryffon quick as I can, but Graal doesn't come before interaction with people IRL.
Well guess what buddy? Now you're on Dev server atleast 6 hours aday (just skip school) working on levels.
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Old 11-24-2004, 03:45 PM
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If there is going to be serious effort put into this, I'd volunteer some of my time for it. I guess I'll have to wait for the apps. Maybe Shadowless can give a few screenshots to show what kind of style is used?
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Good luck @ Lance and staff.
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I don't really have most of the required development skills to help on Graal2001, but I sure will if I could. I'd also like to be unbanned.
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If there is going to be serious effort put into this, I'd volunteer some of my time for it. I guess I'll have to wait for the apps. Maybe Shadowless can give a few screenshots to show what kind of style is used?
Shadowless doesn't play Graal anyone I don't think.
Mabey Gryffon can show you something, ask him.
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I vote for Lance to stay. Zurbika is a rambling *****. Atleast with Lance he can sweet talk you into thinking something is getting done.
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:37 PM
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I vote for Lance to stay. Zurbika is a rambling *****. Atleast with Lance he can sweet talk you into thinking something is getting done.
Zurkiba is not a rambling *****. Please note that any more Zurkiba bashing is both counterproductive AND FILLS ME WITH A WRATH THAT THREATENS TO CONSUME ALL WHO TARRY UPON THIS EARTH.
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If there is going to be serious effort put into this, I'd volunteer some of my time for it. I guess I'll have to wait for the apps. Maybe Shadowless can give a few screenshots to show what kind of style is used?
Didn't he say your free to apply your examples/application now?
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***** is a noun I added on my own; put whatever you want there. But the adjective rambling stands as true.
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***** is a noun I added on my own; put whatever you want there. But the adjective rambling stands as true.
Lance's speach was longer and more rambling than Zurkibas, and he's made quite a few other such ramblings. Hypcorite.
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I vote for Lance to stay. Zurbika is a rambling *****. Atleast with Lance he can sweet talk you into thinking something is getting done.
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***** is a noun I added on my own; put whatever you want there. But the adjective rambling stands as true.
I do not take light to your malficious words towards me. Obviously you can not comprehend what my ramblings did for 2k1. I now see actual work being done which was my sole mission during the whole. As for your ramblings have done nothing for 2k1 but make Gryffon mad. So if your goal was to make Gryffon mad, congratulations.

So please go and face a corner or something and punish yourself.
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I vote for Lance to stay. Zurbika is a rambling *****. Atleast with Lance he can sweet talk you into thinking something is getting done.
Sigh, you failed me.
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I totally agree with you.

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I totally agree with you.

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no i was kidding

if tseng really will work on it i like him

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if tseng really will work on it i like him

if not i like zurkiba
I was being sarcastic too.
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All Tseng has done since this thread has been created is change existing staff rights a little. He has logged on twice.

I know someone who sent in a LAT application. No reply email in two days.


It's more of the same.
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Oh yeah? Well, I know of no staff applicants who have not received an answer the same day they applied!
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GREAT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BLOODY SPECIAL, THANKS GUYS FOR REMOVING ANY INDIVIDUALITY I MIGHT OF ONCE HAD. GOD THE WORD REVOVLES AROUND YOU DOESN'T IT? SCOTT CAN'T HAVE ONE BIT OF FUN. ZEN THIS. MYKEL THAT. DEEK BLAH BLAH. OMFG. IM GOING TO SLIT MY WRISTS!!!
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:03 AM
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Of course I was referring to the current situation.
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