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Old 09-13-2004, 10:20 PM
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Does it matter?
Am I only allowed to do or care about things that matter?

On-topic: If Stefan and/or Unixmad want good documentation and tutorials for their scripting language then they should be prepared to throw up some cash. I'll wager none of the people capable of producing such things are willing to do so for free.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:07 PM
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I'll wager none of the people capable of producing such things are willing to do so for free.
Actually I do the things I do for Graal purely because I enjoy the game. Its the same reason I make music, because I have a love for it. Whilst much of the world revolves around greed, as your rightly suggest, not everyone values money in the same way.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:40 PM
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Actually I do the things I do for Graal purely because I enjoy the game. Its the same reason I make music, because I have a love for it. Whilst much of the world revolves around greed, as your rightly suggest, not everyone values money in the same way.
Making music is usually more fun than documenting a scripting language. Wanting to be paid for doing work isn't greedy. The kind of project we're discussing is very time-consuming and most people wouldn't bother with it unless they were being compensated for their time.

Look, if you go through with this and produce a full, well-written, useful document then I'll be happy that I was proved wrong. I just don't think it's likely.
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:18 AM
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Making music is usually more fun than documenting a scripting language. Wanting to be paid for doing work isn't greedy. The kind of project we're discussing is very time-consuming and most people wouldn't bother with it unless they were being compensated for their time.

Look, if you go through with this and produce a full, well-written, useful document then I'll be happy that I was proved wrong. I just don't think it's likely.
For once, I totally agree. With all the stuff I do and then work and school, it's rather hard to pull out time. I am planning on and I've slightly started documenting the new engine a bit, but it's really hard to pull yourself apart and write the type of documents that are needed/wanted.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:59 PM
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... The kind of project we're discussing is very time-consuming and most people wouldn't bother with it unless they were being compensated for their time.

... full, well-written, useful document ...
Well, you're definitely right about that. I can run around making short specific tuturials as much as I want, but sitting down and writing a full comprehensive one, oi

dude, PS, if you don't care, why are you whining about it? You shouldn't be doing it for fame anyway.

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I don't think we need another /.*Script.*Team/, I think its the GST's job to do that and if they don't have time for this they should find new members that can dedicate their time to this. It is, however, a good idea to do that, there aren't enugh documents for new scripters to start scripting.
If that's what it takes to get some people motivated, it's not that big of a deal.
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Old 09-14-2004, 04:54 PM
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Am I only allowed to do or care about things that matter?
No, but if such an insignificant thing means so much to you, you got my AIM handle.
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Old 09-14-2004, 05:20 PM
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No, but if such an insignificant thing means so much to you, you got my AIM handle.
You also have mine, and yet I believe you were the one to initiate dialogue between us.

This is a message board, for heck's sake. 99% of the stuff posted here has no universal significance.
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:01 PM
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So what if I initiated the dialogue?
So unless you deemed the matter incredibly significant and in need of public discussion, you're a hypocrite.

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Yeah, but if it's totally insignificant and pointless in relation to a thread or current topic why not AIM someone if it's that important?
Same reason you're posting these responses here instead IMing me with them.

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One of you just stop replying please? SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE.
Grow up, kiddo. Do you actually believe your whiney protests are going to make a difference? The world doesn't revolve around what you want.
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:51 PM
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Grow up, kiddo. Do you actually believe your whiney protests are going to make a difference? The world doesn't revolve around what you want.
You act like you are so superior to everybody, shutup, nobody cares.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:06 PM
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You act like you are so superior to everybody
Actually, at this moment I'm only acting like I'm superior to you. And who could fault me on that?

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shutup, nobody cares.
What, you think everybody is enthralled by your astute commentary? Listen, junior: We post because we want to. I'm not doing this to entertain anybody, least of all you.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:37 PM
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Actually, at this moment I'm only acting like I'm superior to you. And who could fault me on that?


What, you think everybody is enthralled by your astute commentary? Listen, junior: We post because we want to. I'm not doing this to entertain anybody, least of all you.

So you take pleasure in putting people down, acting superior to everyone and being a jerk most of the time? You know what Kaimetsu, I used to respect you and what you have to say. I still respect the logic behind your arguments and debates but I don’t respect how you convey that logic under your negativity and insultive (not a real word as you have reminded us) behavior. Don’t you understand it makes people not want to listen to you and it makes them want to be negative towards you when you act like you do? Do you just not care?

Do you not care that you are right but you make people not want to listen to you and you make them angry?
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You act like you are so superior to everybody
Maybe because he can own all of us vs him in a debate? The only person capable of debating like kai is Lance. And not even he is strong enough to take Kai down.

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Old 09-14-2004, 08:05 PM
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I do, it helps some of us study debates and learn pointers on how to win them.
I try to be active in them and learn from it.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:16 PM
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So unless you deemed the matter incredibly significant and in need of public discussion, you're a hypocrite.



Same reason you're posting these responses here instead IMing me with them.



Grow up, kiddo. Do you actually believe your whiney protests are going to make a difference? The world doesn't revolve around what you want.
I deleted that post for a reason, y'know.
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:04 PM
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I deleted that post for a reason, y'know.
Yeah, so what?

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So you take pleasure in putting people down, acting superior to everyone and being a jerk most of the time?
I put people down only if they've done something to warrant it, such as attacking me personally.
Technically I don't 'act' superior to people like you. I am superior, and merely acknowledge the fact.
As for being a 'jerk', that's apparently just who I am. It doesn't seem to bother me much.

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And remember how I never cared?

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Don’t you understand it makes people not want to listen to you
Seems plenty of people are listening to me in this thread. More than I'd like, even.

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and it makes them want to be negative towards you when you act like you do? Do you just not care?
Why would I? What am I losing? The friendship of people like you? Hahaha.
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:00 PM
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I put people down only if they've done something to warrant it, such as attacking me personally.
So when you said "I give it 2 weeks max" apperently osrs warranted that comment because he said that he wanted to help people learn to script?

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Technically I don't 'act' superior to people like you. I am superior, and merely acknowledge the fact.
If you are so superior why do you constantly acknowledge it? Whats the point?

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As for being a 'jerk', that's apparently just who I am. It doesn't seem to bother me much.

And remember how I never cared?
I only remember a man who left the graal forums who became happy for a little while. I almost dont believe you are that same man.

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Seems plenty of people are listening to me in this thread. More than I'd like, even.
Oh yes they do listen, but I know at least I dont like the coating of negativity you put over your logic.

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Why would I? What am I losing? The friendship of people like you? Hahaha.
Yeah, you are.
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:16 PM
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Yeah, so what?
Then why the heck reply to it? Obviously if I deleted it I also didn't want someone to reply to it.
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