The New 16-Man Invitational Spar Tournament Thread

[Deophite18]

Originally Posted by Polo

I made it specific in my post that I was not slating those 16 players skill. I made no mention as to whether I can/cannot beat any of them, but either way, that's irrelevant. I was in no way saying that I should be on the list either.

My point is that someone can talk to a few people, get 16 names, put them up in an invitational spar, and many people will assume they are the best 16 (or very close, lets say 16 of the top 32), and that the winner of it is undisputedly the greatest sparrer. People form cliques of spar partners, have favourite servers of which they will experience a greater range of players, and have white whales which will affect thier judgement in choosing these 16. The people listed are probably in the upper few percent in terms of ability, but to say they are the 'best', is not always accurate. In reality, theres probably 100 or more players (and I'd err largely on the more side) who could have been on a list like this. At the end of the day, there very little variation between the top fighters, and its all gonna come down to who's having the luck on the day.

It's was more just an opinion I wanted to get across. As I said before, no disrespect to anyone in that list, they are all great sparrers.

You may not have come out and said you could beat these people but you were thinking it. I know, because i remember your last post when the WGFC was going on and that is exactly what you said. It is not unreasonable to say the majority of these people are the top 16. Active i meen. There arent THAT many people that play graal and a lot of the people on this list play multiple servers. When you subtract all the players that dont spar at all you dont have a whole lot left. The rest spend there time sparring in the main arenas on diff servers or in tourneys. So the people who spar the most on multiple servers could easily come up with a list like this. To say there is 100 more players that could be on this list is crazy...maybe 15 tops that would be worth adding or replacing.

[warp2ukew]

I could beat a lot of people on that list, including Highlander and Josh. I have before, and I continue to whenever I log on N-Pulse.

The only way to do something like this would be to have a open qualifier and then go from there.

[Jared]

Originally Posted by warp2ukew

I could beat a lot of people on that list, including Highlander and Josh. I have before, and I continue to whenever I log on N-Pulse.

The only way to do something like this would be to have a open qualifier and then go from there.

You could beat me, since you've done it once before in a tag team spar, and you can continue to beat me if you log on to N-Pulse enough. That's true. But have you forgotten that day on N-Pulse when I beat you 4-0 in the finals of two ET tourneys and you begged me to let you win a spar? Have you forgotten that you've never beaten me in a head-to-head spar, and I've beaten you in every other tag team spar we've faced each other in? Stop spreading your lies and find a new game to play, because you're horrible at this one.

Oh, and btw, the only way to do this isn't to have an open qualifier. It wouldn't be an invitational tournament then. I'll invite whoever I please, which won't include you since you're not even among the top fifty sparrers on Graal (not just in my own mind, but no one else thinks you're any good, either).

[Thallen]

I can't understand how you all can argue so passionality over who is 'the best sparrer' on Graal. Sparring isn't the most difficult thing there is, there's three stages, being new, being decent, and being good. Sparring doesn't attract me near as much as it does anymore because of all of the modifications people use to 'enhance' how good they are, and then the excuse, which only these modifications initially create. People use minor speed, people lag themselves, and it's just not worth arguing over. If you think you're the best, trust me, you're not. Anyone on this 16-player list can be beaten by a 'top 50 sparrer' at different rates, some players are better against others, there is no medium to judging who's 'the best.' People should get over themselves, and more than argue over who the best is, argue over the sparrers who they actually appreciate for being legitimate in the way they spar...

[Luda]

im the best sparrer

[ViCtOrEhEhEh]

Originally Posted by Luda

im the best sparrer

You are.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

Gdlck evri1.



If you'd like to contribute towards an event it should be a public event where anyone can participate.

We could do this too!

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Thallen

I can't understand how you all can argue so passionality over who is 'the best sparrer' on Graa...argue over the sparrers who they actually appreciate for being legitimate in the way they spar...

I couldn't have said it better myself. I basically agree with everything Thallen said.

olol grawl lan spar party~~~

[Jared]

Brett and Squirt aren't going to be able to make the tournament, so myself and Josh will take their places. Josh showed up on Graal yesterday for the first time in two weeks or more. This is the final list of invitees and it includes:

Ares
Chance
Cyclone
Deophite
Exodus
Halo
Highlander
Josh
Neo Jenova
Pluto
Quick Strike
Stella
Thallen
Torrent
Tyrant
Zeldaguardian

[Malinko]

Good luck to all who are in the tournament.

(Go Chance! Go Deophite! Go Stella! Go Thallen! Go Zeldaguardian!)

[warp2ukew]

Why are you rooting for the people who won't win. The only person you mentioned who might win was Thallen, but the others aren't good enough to beat most of the poeple on the list.

[The Evil Within]

Originally Posted by warp2ukew

Why are you rooting for the people who won't win. The only person you mentioned who might win was Thallen, but the others aren't good enough to beat most of the poeple on the list.

Considering I ranked #3 by beating most of those people on that list I think your research is a bit off....


Note: Chance might not be making the tourney tonight, and if he does there is a 98% chance that he will be on acid, so yeah....look for a 3rd sub just incase.

[warp2ukew]

I don't even know who you are, and if were the guy in Divine, I beat you when you joined.

[Polo]

Originally Posted by Deophite18

You may not have come out and said you could beat these people but you were thinking it. I know, because i remember your last post when the WGFC was going on and that is exactly what you said. It is not unreasonable to say the majority of these people are the top 16. Active i meen. There arent THAT many people that play graal and a lot of the people on this list play multiple servers. When you subtract all the players that dont spar at all you dont have a whole lot left. The rest spend there time sparring in the main arenas on diff servers or in tourneys. So the people who spar the most on multiple servers could easily come up with a list like this. To say there is 100 more players that could be on this list is crazy...maybe 15 tops that would be worth adding or replacing.

Actually no, I wasn't thinking that at all. I've probably only sparred maybe 2 of the people on that list, and I don't remember who won. I havn't actively sparred for some 4 years now, so I wouldn't think I'm up to scratch anymore (if ever).

My point is that these things are always based on opinion, yet talked about like they are fact.

[ViCtOrEhEhEh]

AND THE WINNER IS: NOT HL LOLOLLL STELLAA WINSSSS!!!! OWNT LOL!!! AHAHHAH LMFAOO STELLA WON!!!!!

STELLA! not HL!

edit: The world is going to end soon since Stella beat Cyc, Thall, Hl, and someone else. Its in the bible. bye guys!