Example of RC rights on a server

[Darlene159]

No, Npulse is on the classic tab, and has not had to pay yet...so there are no payers as of yet. I dont think anyone on the classic tab that were up before this pw renting came about has had to pay anything yet.

I think the way it works is if you get kicked off the classic tab, you have to pay...and if you enter the classic tab from the third tab, you dont have to pay while you are on the classic tab, and those already in the classic tab dont have to pay as long as they stay there?

[ETD]

Originally posted by Darlene159
No, Npulse is on the classic tab, and has not had to pay yet...so there are no payers as of yet. I dont think anyone on the classic tab that were up before this pw renting came about has had to pay anything yet.

I think the way it works is if you get kicked off the classic tab, you have to pay...and if you enter the classic tab from the third tab, you dont have to pay while you are on the classic tab, and those already in the classic tab dont have to pay as long as they stay there?

I thought that classic servers only had 6 months free, then they have to pay at least once, even if they stay public... just to make everything fair...

So public servers got more than 6 months free? Also, I think that private servers that were up before the payment system started got 6 months too... but if public servers didn't have to pay yet, I doubt the private ones have had to pay.... while the rest of us are paying... and they get to allow normal accounts online as well, and not even have to pay?

not fair I think

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by ETD

I thought that classic servers only had 6 months free, then they have to pay at least once, even if they stay public... just to make everything fair...

So public servers got more than 6 months free? Also, I think that private servers that were up before the payment system started got 6 months too... but if public servers didn't have to pay yet, I doubt the private ones have had to pay.... while the rest of us are paying... and they get to allow normal accounts online as well, and not even have to pay?

not fair I think

Oh yea...I think you are right about the 6 month free, I forgot about that, I am probably totally wrong.
I dont think Npulse has had to pay anything yet, I know I didnt, and I am pretty sure Rai didnt, so I dont know, I am confused as usual, lol

[Loriel]

Originally posted by ETD
1. is Zone paying now, since they are private?

Stefan is running it.

[ETD]

Originally posted by Loriel

Stefan is running it.

wtfsking;reg;awehr;he
why do some servers get so much special treatment?

[VeX_RaT_Boy]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Oh yea...I think you are right about the 6 month free, I forgot about that, I am probably totally wrong.
I dont think Npulse has had to pay anything yet, I know I didnt, and I am pretty sure Rai didnt, so I dont know, I am confused as usual, lol

Before the PW renting came out, there was private servers (Oasis, Doragon Koden, etc). They had/have to pay after 6 months. N-Pulse, Era and those classic servers get it for free.

why do some servers get so much special treatment?

Because Stefan sees that it might cause Graals playercount to raise.


I am a PW manager, and I do not think those rules are so bad...

[Crono]

Let me fix that for you..

Originally posted by VeX_RaT_Boy
Because Stefan sees that it might bring in more money

Nothing wrong with that, just pointing out the truth. :3

[VeX_RaT_Boy]

Originally posted by Gerami
Let me fix that for you..



Nothing wrong with that, just pointing out the truth. :3

Of course...It's his job, and I think he is like every other person; he want's to live a good life. You wouldn't mind some extra money would you?

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by ETD

wtfsking;reg;awehr;he
why do some servers get so much special treatment?

Company run servers always have you know that. As far as me and Npulse, I was prepared to pay after the 6 months but it has never come to that because I think and this is not a proven fact , it was supposed to start this month but this was never confirmed one way or the other. Now even if I had paid lets say , when I gave up Npulse I gave up all rights to it including myself as payer because Rai was prepared to pay himself. But as of yet no one on the Classic tab has paid to my knowedge, but catch 22 comes in here because if you are on the Classic tab you don't pay. I assume and this also is not a concrete fact , that if you come off the Classic Tab you will be required to pay. So this would be an incentive for the Managers to keep themselves on the Classic tab to avoid paying anything at all.

[Leasure-13]

This is only my opinion... i think that if it is your server.. you should be able to give anyone any rights that you think they need. I do kinda agree with the Guest RC's but that is another thing.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Leasure-13
This is only my opinion... i think that if it is your server.. you should be able to give anyone any rights that you think they need. I do kinda agree with the Guest RC's but that is another thing.

I completely agree.

While it is true that some irresponsible managers give out too many rights and suffer for it, the remainder of us responsible managers should not suffer for their mistakes. I fail to see the logic present here, no matter how much canned tripe Moon God spouts about Graal being professional and a business (I fail to see how that relates to this).

New idea: The PWA has become lazy and does not wish to handle such problems when they arise, instead placing morbidly tight restrictions on such things as rights.

[DIABLO2099]

Originally posted by Lance


I completely agree.

While it is true that some irresponsible managers give out too many rights and suffer for it, the remainder of us responsible managers should not suffer for their mistakes. I fail to see the logic present here, no matter how much canned tripe Moon God spouts about Graal being professional and a business (I fail to see how that relates to this).

New idea: The PWA has become lazy and does not wish to handle such problems when they arise, instead placing morbidly tight restrictions on such things as rights.

Exactly, the managers who do know how to run their server should not suffer for the mistakes of the renters. This was the point that me and Brandon had tried to get across before.

I am glad that other managers who know how to manage their server are speaking up about this. It's nice that the PWA is trying to help managers with a guideline, but I really doubt it will help them because it will result in their time being wasted, and I am sure they can do better things with their time rather than manage the rights of hundreds of local playerworld staff.

[Lance]

Originally posted by DIABLO2099

Exactly, the managers who do know how to run their server should not suffer for the mistakes of the renters. This was the point that me and Brandon had tried to get across before.

Indeed. I wholeheartedly agree.

Here's an idea: Those rules regarding rights should only apply to hosted/private playerworlds, and not those that are out in public.

Addendum: My points were ignored there, and they probably will be ignored here as well. Sigh.

I am glad that other managers who know how to manage their server are speaking up about this.

I am glad, as well. I am saddened by the amount who have just gone along with it, and moreso saddened by the others who disagree but have done so inappropriately.

It's nice that the PWA is trying to help managers with a guideline, but I really doubt it will help them because it will result in their time being wasted, and I am sure they can do better things with their time rather than manage the rights of hundreds of local playerworld staff.

Agreed. I never thought I'd see the day when rules would be put into place regarding rights. It's always been a situation of advisement, never an imperative, and it should have stayed that way.

[Blitz_Hunter]

So...what have we learned after 11 pages of this thread?

[R0bin]

I say that there should be no rules about how servers are managed, and how rights should be done, and if managers and renters cant set up their own rules, then its all their fault.