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Milkdude99 01-25-2004 04:52 AM

Example of RC rights on a server
 
Most of the time all we hear are negative things about what a Playerworld has done wrong so I wanted to post something on what a Playerworld has done right for a change.
This is the way the Managers of Npulse got together and came up with a plan for Staff rights and RC levels. It is a very good example of a Playerworld following the PWA rule guidelines of RC Levels for Staff. Good job Npulse!


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Providing all RC IP's are set:

Summary:
Level 4's (2 members)
Ducati - Manager
DS - Manager

Level 3's (3 members)
Juli - Admin
Nerv - Admin
Beedoe - GP Chief

Level 2's
All GPs (GP Cadets get a restricted Level 2)

Level 1's
All other staff (FAQ and ET won't get an RC, just the warp rights)

Managers (x2)
Level 4
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Warp players
Update Level
Disconnect Players
View Player Attributes
Set Player Attributes
Set The Own Attributes
Reset Attributes
Admin Message
Set server flags
Change rights
Ban players
Change comments
Change staff accounts
Change Server Options
Edit Folder configuration
Edit Folder Rights
NPC-Control

Admin's (x2)
Level 3
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Warp players
Update Level
Disconnect Players
View Player Attributes
Set Player Attributes
Set The Own Attributes
Reset Attributes
Admin Message
Set server flags
Ban players
Change comments
NPC-Control


GP Chief
Level 3
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Warp Players
Update Level
Disconnect Players
View Player Attributes
Set Player Attributes
Set The Own Attributes
Reset Attributes
Admin Message
Ban Players
Change comments

Asst. GP Chief
Level 2
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Warp Players
Update Level
Disconnect Players
View Player Attributes
Set Player Attributes
Admin Message
Change Comments

Full GP's + GP Captain
Level 2
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Warp Players
Update Level
Disconnect Players
View Player Attributes
Set Player Attributes
Admin Message
Change Comments

GP Cadets
Level 2 (restricted)
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Update Level
View Player Attributes
Admin Message
Change Comments

NAT Chief
Level 1
Warpto X Y
Warpto player
Update Level
NPC Control

NAT's
Level 1
Warpto X Y
Warpto Players
Update Level

LAT's
Level 1
Warpto X Y
Warpto Players
Update Level

GAT's
Level 1
Warpto X Y
Warpto Players
Update Level

ET's
Level 1 (No RC Given)
Warpto X Y
Warpto Players
Update Level

FAQ's
Level 1 (No RC Given)
Warpto X Y
Warpto Players
Update Level

Guild Admin
Level 1
Warpto X Y
Warpto Players
Update Level

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They chose not to use at this time the 3rd Level4 RC.

Blitz_Hunter 01-25-2004 05:15 AM

Wow, What a coincedence.:o

DarkShadows_Legend 01-25-2004 05:23 AM

Was this really necessary?

Isn't there already a post that explains the whole deal with what rights should be given?

Milkdude99 01-25-2004 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
Was this really necessary?

Isn't there already a post that explains the whole deal with what rights should be given?

The thread was and your comments aren't. People still are confused about rights and there is no post that goes into it in this much detail.

protagonist 01-25-2004 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
Was this really necessary?

Isn't there already a post that explains the whole deal with what rights should be given?

It makes a good example, thanks in part to the fact MG ran it and had mostly responsible people put in place.

Mykel 01-25-2004 06:29 AM

Why should this be applied to servers that are paid for?

Who cares if they give 8 people level 4 RC's, and ban anyone who comes on, so what?

They paid for the server, everyone else can just stay away from it, eh?

Darlene159 01-25-2004 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mykel
Why should this be applied to servers that are paid for?

Who cares if they give 8 people level 4 RC's, and ban anyone who comes on, so what?

They paid for the server, everyone else can just stay away from it, eh?

Geez, it amazes me how hard this concept is...listen, You "RENT" the space to put your server on. You dont "OWN" anything.
Your server still represents Graal.

Blitz_Hunter 01-25-2004 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darlene159
Geez, it amazes me how hard this concept is...listen, You "RENT" the space to put your server on. You dont "OWN" anything.
Your server still represents Graal.

Hmm..He is paying for it, so it's his. Kinda, like going to the store looking for some food. "Oh, look some ice cream." I payed for it, it's mine. :grin:

Milkdude99 01-25-2004 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mykel
Why should this be applied to servers that are paid for?

Who cares if they give 8 people level 4 RC's, and ban anyone who comes on, so what?

They paid for the server, everyone else can just stay away from it, eh?

Because Graal cares for one and this is explained in much detail on these Forums so I suggest you read why it is the way it is. :\


Quote:

Originally posted by Blitz_Hunter


Hmm..He is paying for it, so it's his. Kinda, like going to the store looking for some food. "Oh, look some ice cream." I payed for it, it's mine. :grin:

You aren't paying squat for what is involved in it and no you don't "own" anything . again I give you the same advice as Mykel , find the related post and read it before you post something as ignorant as this.

Mykel 01-25-2004 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darlene159
Geez, it amazes me how hard this concept is...listen, You "RENT" the space to put your server on. You dont "OWN" anything.
Your server still represents Graal.

Very true. And when you 'rent' a house, you can not allow anyone you wish. Except of course management. Also you can have as many 'head's of the household' as you want!

Your example doesn't fit. ;)

Mykel 01-25-2004 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Because Graal cares for one and this is explained in much detail on these Forums so I suggest you read why it is the way it is. :\
Why aren't their differences in the rules though?
A free server, that graal hosts, and has to pay for by itself should have strict rules, like the ones given. A server that we pay for that is 'guarenteed' to make graal money should have much less strict ones, no?

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99 You aren't paying squat for what is involved in it and no you don't "own" anything . again I give you the same advice as Mykel , find the related post and read it before you post something as ignorant as this.
But you are very quick to repeat something that was already made clear...weren't you?

Riot 01-25-2004 06:59 AM

We may "rent" space from graal, but during that time that space is ours, with graal monitoring it.
Also we have to pay for accounts (since we only get one account with it) so they are making even more money, so why must we have strict rights?

Milkdude99 01-25-2004 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mykel
Why aren't their differences in the rules though?
A free server, that graal hosts, and has to pay for by itself should have strict rules, like the ones given. A server that we pay for that is 'guarenteed' to make graal money should have much less strict ones, no?

No , matter of fact it doesn't make money till players play the server , the cost involved in the PW alone is much more than you "Pay". It's called maketing Mykel and a way to get players more interested in working to make a PW that will hopefully in time make Graal money. Graal is responsible for all content and Management of the PWs regardless if it is a hosted server or not. Graal has a responsiblity to the paying players of Graal when they upgrade to provide a Game worth their money and run properly. It's business plain and simple Mykel and if you don't understand business then don't "rent" a PW.

Quote:

Originally posted by Riot
We may "rent" space from graal, but during that time that space is ours, with graal monitoring it.
Also we have to pay for accounts (since we only get one account with it) so they are making even more money, so why must we have strict rights?

To cut down on abuse mainly, which in turn is always player related in some way and when people pay for a Game they cannot be abused in anyway for the business to stay in business. Would you pay for something that you are mistreated and abused on? Doubtful, so don't expect Graal to just let people do whatever they want to do on servers they don't own on a Game they don't own. Graal is the only one that stands to lose here by not doing this not some person who temporarily rents a space for a PW.

ETD 01-25-2004 07:06 AM

Yea, n-pulse is like that, because you sat there, and walked them through setting everything up...
lets see you do that for all 114 PWs... or do they all not get equal treatment?

anyways, EoA is set up well within the guidlines:

All accounts are IP protected by 2 numbers (#.#.*.*) or more.

Level 4 RC's:
-PW Renter (Es Canavi)
-PW Manager (ME)
-PW Asst-Manager (PrinceDark)

Level 3 RC's:
-all 3 Admins - Zerxus, CasanovaCanavi, KyleOdin

after that, I don't go by levels... I just give people only the rights they NEED to do their jobs. Most development staff have their own folder, where they upload their stuff to that, then the higher staff move it to the main folder.

anyways, it's not very hard to be well within the guidlines, as long as people read the rules carefully.

Mykel 01-25-2004 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
No , matter of fact it doesn't make money till players play the server , the cost involved in the PW alone is much more than you "Pay". It's called maketing Mykel and a way to get players more interested in working to make a PW that will hopefully in time make Graal money. Graal is responsible for all content and Management of the PWs regardless if it is a hosted server or not. Graal has a responsiblity to the paying players of Graal when they upgrade to provide a Game worth their money and run properly. It's business plain and simple Mykel and if you don't understand business then don't "rent" a PW.
Lmao, you amuse me. You actually think Stefan would let 10's-100's of people buy servers if he was actually losing money on each one? And the funny thing is, that rules have gotten tighter since these PWs have been bought. It makes no sense, who cares if someone wants to have 5 level 4 RC's. If they get everything deleted you just say: HEY, GUY WHO BOUGHT SERBER G3TS S3RV3R! HAW, mai job is herd.

Easily solved....


[edit]I remember a time when Delteria had a Manager, Co-Manager, and 3 Admins with level 4 RC, and we never had a problem. Never a power struggle, nothing.[/edit]


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