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Old 08-23-2009, 09:27 PM
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Why not just have a thread in the NPC Scripting forums named "GS2 Learning Server"?

It would only have to be a very short post listing who has access to add people.

What things actually depend on is if the administrators are willing to filter out all the people who aren't actually interested.
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Why not just have a thread in the NPC Scripting forums named "GS2 Learning Server"?
Why not? This is why;

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I purposely don't advertise the testbed server because I already have a hard enough time managing to filter out the idiots who just want an RC so they can have staff boots and summon.
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Why not? This is why;
Did you not even read past that first sentence?

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I think it would work out much better if people are personally recommended, as that in itself is a filtering mechanic.
Yes, it would work out better (in the sense of having less false positives), but is that sufficient? Is it really okay to replace the method of "anyone who can download a file can learn to code" to a "you need to spend 1 hour talking to me so I can give you a recommendation that might not even go through"?
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Did you not even read past that first sentence?
I did, I have a short attention span tonight though
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:34 AM
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Did you not even read past that first sentence?


Yes, it would work out better (in the sense of having less false positives), but is that sufficient? Is it really okay to replace the method of "anyone who can download a file can learn to code" to a "you need to spend 1 hour talking to me so I can give you a recommendation that might not even go through"?
You don't even need to sit for an hour to tell if someone is serious in learning how to script or not. I can usually tell in one or two threads made by the same person if they're interested in learning or just having things made for them/using them. And even so, it's would not be an interview of sorts, just a manner of advertising. If I'm talking to someone who I feel really wants to learn scripting, I can point them to the Testbed. If I'm talking to someone who gives me the feeling they just want others to make stuff for them... I just won't mention it. If they find out through alternative methods, I doubt Tig is going to just deny them, as I don't think he does any sort of pre-filtering. If anyone is denied access to Testbed, I think it's those who don't want to learn scripting, and those who have used and abused their access before.
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You don't even need to sit for an hour to tell if someone is serious in learning how to script or not. I can usually tell in one or two threads made by the same person if they're interested in learning or just having things made for them/using them. And even so, it's would not be an interview of sorts, just a manner of advertising. If I'm talking to someone who I feel really wants to learn scripting, I can point them to the Testbed. If I'm talking to someone who gives me the feeling they just want others to make stuff for them... I just won't mention it. If they find out through alternative methods, I doubt Tig is going to just deny them, as I don't think he does any sort of pre-filtering. If anyone is denied access to Testbed, I think it's those who don't want to learn scripting, and those who have used and abused their access before.
Okay, since you apparently missed the main question in my previous post, excuse my satire.

More simply (even with bolding!):
If the server is not advertised (either via. recommendations or just Tig's idea of not doing it at all), that means less people will see it than previously, when anyone with the client could learn.

I'm asking:
  • Is it okay to lose those people?
  • Will the people who want to learn always take the initiative to go find that server, or with your method, go find someone to talk to?
  • Is this centralized system of learning we have sufficient compared to the decentralized one we had before?

These are the questions we should be asking, not how we should handle stripping out false positives.
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