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Old 04-28-2013, 03:55 PM
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My Graal staff life began as a part of the FAQ team back on Atlantis. We basically did the same thing. So, yes, I was, sort of.
Well I think PR is a mix of FAQ + GP ?
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:04 PM
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Well I think PR is a mix of FAQ + GP ?
I can't see how a GP member would require the stealth tool, either. There are ways which are better suited for keeping track of player activity.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:30 PM
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If you wish to watch the activity of another player who has been reported doing things illegal, or continuous harassment, you would hide and watch, taking notes and snapping pictures, before confronting them, or in other cases, jailing/banning.

It's just like a undercover cop in a unmarked police vehicle patrolling the streets.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:33 PM
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I can't see how a GP member would require the stealth tool, either. There are ways which are better suited for keeping track of player activity.
There is indeed, chat logger, storing them for maybe 2-3 months only and so on. To prevent big storages. So if a player reports someone for cussing, looking at the logs and punish. No stealth
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:33 PM
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the stealth is usefull to watch players. if they know there is a staff member around, they will for sure act different then when there is a staff member around
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:14 PM
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There is indeed, chat logger, storing them for maybe 2-3 months only and so on. To prevent big storages. So if a player reports someone for cussing, looking at the logs and punish. No stealth
Even though swearing isn't illegal on era. If you disable the swear filter you have to accept the terms that people will swear and that you can't cry about it. Therefore any ban due to the use of the "n word" or other "harassing words" is invalid. Why see hate when you can just see a wall of stars coming your way? That's why I play with swear filter on strong.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:12 PM
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There is indeed, chat logger, storing them for maybe 2-3 months only and so on. To prevent big storages. So if a player reports someone for cussing, looking at the logs and punish. No stealth
Never saw a chat logger while I was PR

That would most likely cause alot of lag, since so many people tend to talk, and the addition of the typerwriter, would log every letter spelled out. So we will have this large file that no one wants to sift through.

So yah, never saw a chat logger. There weren't even PM loggers, as far as mass messages go.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:34 PM
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There is a chat logger but it doesn't work the way you think it does. It doesn't log every single person, it also doesn't log every single text you say (if I remember correctly).
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:36 PM
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(if I remember correctly).
You do. I believe it was also adjusted for that stupid typewriter.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:28 PM
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There is more to being a PR than just looking through logs. We also gotta look for the abusers of the sort, like hackers, macro users, glitchers, and just straight out chat of people. The stealth helps with that. When we get a report of a harasser we go and watch, take notes, then do what is necessary. Instead of sifting through a extensive log of player's chat (in which the typewriter loves to spam).

We also do the duties of FAQ as well.
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It doesn't log every single person
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I believe it was also adjusted for that stupid typewriter.
Not.

Last I checked all chat logging was off though, it's pretty pointless.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:43 PM
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Therefore any ban due to the use of the "n word" or other "harassing words" is invalid.
This was never the intention of the optional swear filter, and I doubt that's the current rule. Harassment is still against both the Graal ToS and Era's rules (unless they've changed them to permit harassment, which I doubt).

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That would most likely cause alot of lag, since so many people tend to talk, and the addition of the typerwriter, would log every letter spelled out. So we will have this large file that no one wants to sift through.

So yah, never saw a chat logger. There weren't even PM loggers, as far as mass messages go.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and should stop talking. Not only are there chat loggers on Era (which cause no lag, why would you even think they would...?), but mass messages are also logged. For a while they even logged everybody's chat routinely, although they'd stopped doing that by the time I left.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:15 AM
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and should stop talking. Not only are there chat loggers on Era (which cause no lag, why would you even think they would...?), but mass messages are also logged. For a while they even logged everybody's chat routinely, although they'd stopped doing that by the time I left.
Ya, I said that they didn't log messages, as far as mass messages go, as in, mass messages were the only things being logged, as far as logging messages go.

And when i had opened up the files system in the RC, it would proceed with a 20 second lag before finally opening up, and it seemed it had affected other players also at times. So when i say lag, that's what i mean, there will be more things to load, so if i were to try and open the log history it would be a damn long time, at least just for me, to get everything loaded.

Just like when you try and download and open up some other player's files with a ton of stuff on it, it takes a long time to complete the process.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:00 AM
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There is actually chat logs on certain players (Not all) that we use extensively throughout serious investigations and in some cases have actually helped us solve/resolve the case.

Also, you guys completely went off topic, you're all suppose to be telling me about how awesome my video is and how scary I am, geeze guys.
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