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coreys · #**161** 01-25-2007, 04:52 AM

I like how Moonie changed her title to "FORUM ADMINISTRATOR"

Darlene159 · #**162** 01-25-2007, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys

I like how Moonie changed her title to "FORUM ADMINISTRATOR"

Obviously people didn't know since they think one is needed.

excaliber7388 · #**163** 01-25-2007, 05:05 AM

She's not limited at all.
We all know how hard it is to contact Unix, let alone carry on a conversation with him. Unless you can read his mind across thousands of miles, you are lying.
Why is a forum with the majority of people between the ages of 18 and 25 have older mods anyway?

Darlene159 · #**164** 01-25-2007, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

She's not limited at all.
We all know how hard it is to contact Unix, let alone carry on a conversation with him. Unless you can read his mind across thousands of miles, you are lying.

I am lying? Wow, I am so glad that you know it all. I am not lying at all. Very few things offend me, or make me mad, but being called a liar is one of them. Unless you have proof that I am a liar, do not call me one. I talk to Unixmad quite often in fact. No matter what you think, I do not own these forums therefore, I do have someone to answer to.

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Why is a forum with the majority of people between the ages of 18 and 25 have older mods anyway?

I don't know, why was the game made by people older than 18 to 25?

zim5354 · #**165** 01-25-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Obviously people didn't know since they think one is needed.

I think they meant someone to replace you.

coreys · #**166** 01-25-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Obviously people didn't know since they think one is needed.

Yeah, your title already said it though. Apparently people can't read. But you act like a mod, thats the problem. A very strict mod. Okay. Lets make an analogy.

Sam is a Canadian leader, and you are a Communist Dictator. Figuratively speaking. Maybe be a little more lenient with the moderation, hmm? This is an honest request, because I know you have the common sense to know that just because something may possibly break a rule doesn't mean it's negative, or may somehow harm these forums or Graal. Please? =)

Take it up with unix if you have to, but rather than helping these forums, you, among other moderators, are harming these forums. This a major reason why they are inactive, and it's just no as enjoyable, and people are wanting to stop posting here.

zim5354 · #**167** 01-25-2007, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys

Yeah, your title already said it though. Apparently people can't read. But you act like a mod, thats the problem. A very strict mod. Okay. Lets make an analogy.

Sam is a Canadian leader, and you are a Communist Dictator. Figuratively speaking. Maybe be a little more lenient with the moderation, hmm? This is an honest request, because I know you have the common sense to know that just because something may possibly break a rule doesn't mean it's negative, or may somehow harm these forums or Graal. Please? =)

Doubt it.

Infernix · #**168** 01-25-2007, 05:23 AM

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Moderation needs to be more Lenient and the rules need to be changed in order to better the community. For this to be done we need the support of the Moderation team.

Do we have that, and are we All ready to make a effort to have Unixmad change things for the better? If we come together as a community there is no doubt things are going to be changed. We hold the power working together than splitting up into "teams."

Chris · #**169** 01-25-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

I don't care I cant voice my opinion here anyway.

You most certainly can. You know you have to actually be mature and considerate first before doing so. Being an ass isn't going to help resolve anything.

zim5354 · #**170** 01-25-2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Moderation needs to be more Lenient and the rules need to be changed in order to better the community. For this to be done we need the support of the Moderation team.

Do we have that, and are we All ready to make a effort to have Unixmad change things for the better? If we come together as a community there is no doubt things are going to be changed. We hold the power working together than splitting up into "teams."

There is no team there is everyone and her, I have never ever seen any major complaints about Sam or any other Mod for the matter.

Darlene159 · #**171** 01-25-2007, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

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Moderation needs to be more Lenient and the rules need to be changed in order to better the community. For this to be done we need the support of the Moderation team.

Do we have that, and are we All ready to make a effort to have Unixmad change things for the better? If we come together as a community there is no doubt things are going to be changed. We hold the power working together than splitting up into "teams."

I'm not in this fight.
The rules do not bother me. If the community wants the rules changed, then the community can use the support center. Stop trying to use me to fight for you.

excaliber7388 · #**172** 01-25-2007, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I am lying? Wow, I am so glad that you know it all. I am not lying at all. Very few things offend me, or make me mad, but being called a liar is one of them.

Threads closing is a big thing for me

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Unless you have proof that I am a liar, do not call me one. I talk to Unixmad quite often in fact. No matter what you think, I do not own these forums therefore, I do have someone to answer to.

I gave some good reasons as to why it was impossible for you to have talked to him before you deleted the thread. Logic is enough.

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I don't know, why was the game made by people older than 18 to 25?

Because they can program. Doesn't mean they understand this generation well enough to moderate their forums.
I'd never trust my 40 year old mother to know what guys my age are in to!

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I'm not in this fight.
The rules do not bother me. If the community wants the rules changed, then the community can use the support center. Stop trying to use me to fight for you.

No we can't. Now you certainly ARE lying!
The support center is useless for this topic, and you know it!

konidias · #**173** 01-25-2007, 05:39 AM

Do you see what I'm talking about now Inferno? Nothing is going to change. No matter how hard you try. You'd be better off leaving if you're not happy with the rules. The admin here has no problems with how things are run. Unixmad has no problems with how things are run. So therefore, who can possibly change what you want? Nobody.

Infernix · #**174** 01-25-2007, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I'm not in this fight.
The rules do not bother me. If the community wants the rules changed, then the community can use the support center. Stop trying to use me to fight for you.

You just wow....we have been for how long now? How many complaints have we made. How about you drop out of this administration right now just like you did with this game. Cause right now I hope everyone harasses you right off the face of graal. Your being completely useless, nothing but a mind and body on another computer randomly listening to the orders of some man while everyone else hates you.

You failed with Npulse(server and forums), you failed to be apart of the graal community, and your failing as a mod.

konidias · #**175** 01-25-2007, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

You just wow....we have been for how long now? How many complaints have we made. How about you drop out of this administration right now just like you did with this game. Cause right now I hope everyone harasses you right off the face of graal. Your being completely useless, nothing but a mind and body on another computer randomly listening to the orders of some man while everyone else hates you.

You failed with Npulse(server and forums), you failed to be apart of the graal community, and your failing as a mod.

Wave goodbye to this post. lol.

Infernix · #**176** 01-25-2007, 05:44 AM

Yea probably, I accidentally told the truth. We might as well give up with tryin to be civil and just go on a out right crazy riot.
If you can answer one question for me though, WHAT IN GODS NAME DO WE DO TO GET SOME SORT OF CHANGE AROUND HERE? Support center doesn't work, disobeying the rules and making it obvious that were serious doesn't work. Do we have to Shoot a B**** up in this place??, cause just tell me and Ill bring out the glock.

coreys · #**177** 01-25-2007, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

use the support center.

I had to stop myself from cursing in all caps at that. C'mon, I'm sure you have higher education. And anyone with a high school diploma or under can see that its useless to use the support center, and you know this damn well.

Stop pulling that line, because it's almost as annoying as Navi in Ocarina Of Time. And that's saying something. Uniximad does NOT check the support center AT ALL. Everyone knows this, and don't you dare say otherwise cause you would just be bull****ting yourself and everyone else. Don't get me wrong, I want to be polite and civil about this, but STOP AND THINK. I mean just about no-one checks the support center, I had to wait like 3 days, then make a thread about something, then wait another like 2 days for Stefan to make any kind of reply to a support ticket I had.

Everyone is complaining to you because you're the key player in this. You're the only one who can change how things are going. Like you said, you talk to Uniximad. I know it seems silly to you to be arguing with kids, but you gotta listen to us and take the responsibility your position entails.

konidias · #**178** 01-25-2007, 05:47 AM

Why not? This thread is going to get closed/deleted eventually. Might as well say whatever you please while you still can. Because anything meaningful or helpful that you have to say is just going to be ignored and forgotten about once this thread is gone.

I'd be embarassed to tell anyone that I have anything to do with this game... seriously. I just hope that my server can take the focus away from these forums and that I am allowed to at least run my own server without anyone interfering... otherwise I may as well leave now.

PrinceDark · #**179** 01-25-2007, 05:56 AM

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I just hope that my server can take the focus away from these forums and that I am allowed to at least run my own server without anyone interfering

Good luck on that.

Andy0687 · #**180** 01-25-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Stop trying to use me to fight for you.

Leave then, because you failed as a forum administrator.

If you could learn from the admins of past, an Admins primary role is supposed to be to run the forums and make sure the users concerns are listened to.

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I just hope that my server can take the focus away from these forums and that I am allowed to at least run my own server without anyone interfering... otherwise I may as well leave now.

I dunno, being Konidias you might have a leg up on some people (no offense intended you just are a pretty major part of graal history).

From what ive seen, youll be hard pressed to run the server "how you want".

Darlene159 · #**181** 01-25-2007, 05:58 AM

Did any of you stop to think that if unixmad does not change the forums despite all your complaints, that maybe he doesn't want them changed? I can assure you that he does see the complaints, as he has told me that he gets many complaints about me.

And guess what...part of my job is not arguing for you members of the forums, but if I felt strongly about something, I would fight for it. I suggest if you feel strongly about something, you fight for it yourself, the same as I would, but in an appropriate way, and the appropriate place.

Andy0687 · #**182** 01-25-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

And guess what...part of my job is not arguing for you members of the forums, but if I felt strongly about something, I would fight for it. I suggest if you feel strongly about something, you fight for it yourself, the same as I would, but in an appropriate way, and the appropriate place.

I think we covered this a lot multiple times in the thread and you want to say you repeat yourself a lot?

There are no other means and you know it as well as we do. You hold all the cards and all the power of change.

We are nothing but text on the screen to you and dollars in the pocket of unixmad, you would rather have dead forums, and he would rather ban us all to make it enjoyable for 2 or 3 people (who likely would be sucking up for a global position).

Ugh.

konidias · #**183** 01-25-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Did any of you stop to think that if unixmad does not change the forums despite all your complaints, that maybe he doesn't want them changed?

Ohh! Ohh! I did! I did! Do I get a prize?

Infernix · #**184** 01-25-2007, 06:02 AM

I feel strongly enough to say that the first step to getting change around these forums and getting rid of The Forum Admin. You fail@graal. Go play WoW like the other older ladies. I can ensure you that I wont ever be paying for this game at this rate. And its been years since i brought the Infernix account.

Darlene159 · #**185** 01-25-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

You hold all the cards and all the power of change.

No, I do not.

coreys · #**186** 01-25-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Did any of you stop to think that if unixmad does not change the forums despite all your complaints, that maybe he doesn't want them changed? I can assure you that he does see the complaints, as he has told me that he gets many complaints about me.

And guess what...part of my job is not arguing for you members of the forums, but if I felt strongly about something, I would fight for it. I suggest if you feel strongly about something, you fight for it yourself, the same as I would, but not on the forums.

Then I guess this forum will wither away. Has Uniximad said anything about complaints about how theses forums are run and the rules, and not so much about you? Cause that's what I care about. I think you're doing what you think you ought. But, what I think we need to be pushing for is some lenience in the rules. I mean, I know this is proubably "against the rules," but MAN is Uniximad being stuck up and full of himself. I mean, no offense to anybody but this is a low grade, cheap, pitiful excuse for a game. I mean, theres that charm and whatnot that keeps us Graalians attached to the game for a long time, but it never has and never will compare to the...I guess you could say "REAL" games. Unix needs to get a reality check, I say.

Infernix · #**187** 01-25-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

No, I do not.

Pleas slap yourself, PLEASSSSEEEEEEEEEE. We asked for your support, youve turned us down so now everyone is going to want your removed as Admin. End of story, just quit now. Would it be against a rule for me and others to post "I disapprove of forum Moderation".

coreys · #**188** 01-25-2007, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Pleas slap yourself, PLEASSSSEEEEEEEEEE. We asked for your support, youve turned us down so now everyone is going to want your removed as Admin. Maybe in your old age you just cant keep up w/ the times.

Kinda rude, eh? I mean, seeing the way you like to be a douchebag on these forums, I'm not surprised why she's the nazi-moderator. Give her a break, sheesh.

And, Unix, if you are watching in your apparently holy seat of ignoring-ness. Give US a break.

Infernix · #**189** 01-25-2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys

Kinda rude, eh? I mean, seeing the way you like to be a douchebag on these forums, I'm not surprised why she's the nazi-moderator. Give her a break, sheesh.

And, Unix, if you are watching in your apparently holy seat of ignoring-ness. Give US a break.

O please, I was being nice as hell and now I'm guess what, I'm pissed. So I really don't care. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I like her in any possible way.

Andy0687 · #**190** 01-25-2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

No, I do not.

And why dont you? Lets look at the facts

Unixmad dosent listen to us when we ask questions, hell, he dosent even talk to us. The only time I ever talked to unixmad Personally was about New World somewhere around FIVE YEARS AGO and he only sent me a one line reply, and nothing after that.

He talks to you on a regular basis, and listens to you.

Already I would say you have all the power and control, but need I continue?

He dosent seem to respect our opinion
He listens to yours

zim5354 · #**191** 01-25-2007, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I'm not in this fight.
The rules do not bother me. If the community wants the rules changed, then the community can use the support center. Stop trying to use me to fight for you.

Please don't think so highly of yourself, if anything the community wants you removed.

Gambet · #**192** 01-25-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

Please don't think so highly of yourself, if anything the community wants you removed.

Oh please, you all complain endlessly about Darlene when you should be complaining about the rules. She enforces the rules from the beginning to the ending period of the last sentence.

You guys are mad that she actually does her job, when you should be mad at the rules, in which case the administration could give three hoots since really it's not hard to follow the damn rules.

Infernix · #**193** 01-25-2007, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

Oh please, you all complain endlessly about Darlene when you should be complaining about the rules. She enforces the rules from the beginning to the ending period of the last sentence.

You guys are mad that she actually does her job, when you should be mad at the rules, in which case the administration could give three hoots since really it's not hard to follow the damn rules.

The bold part really made me laugh. Read the thread Gambet rofl.

Heres some stuff Ive said.

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Moderation needs to be more Lenient and the rules need to be changed in order to better the community. For this to be done we need the support of the Moderation team.

Do we have that, and are we All ready to make a effort to have Unixmad change things for the better? If we come together as a community there is no doubt things are going to be changed. We hold the power working together than splitting up into "teams."

Moonie's Response to that:

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I'm not in this fight.
The rules do not bother me. If the community wants the rules changed, then the community can use the support center. Stop trying to use me to fight for you.

Completely willing to go straight to the source of the problem and DENIED. Thus we have a obstacle, Which happens to be a Moderator.

Andy0687 · #**194** 01-25-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

Oh please, you all complain endlessly about Darlene when you should be complaining about the rules. She enforces the rules from the beginning to the ending period of the last sentence.

You guys are mad that she actually does her job, when you should be mad at the rules, in which case the administration could give three hoots since really it's not hard to follow the damn rules.

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT READ THE THREAD AND AS USUAL COMES IN HERE POSTING WHATEVER TRYING TO LOOK BETTER IN THE EYES OF UPPER MANAGEMENT.

Sorry for my caps but this really bugs me, cant you help out once in your life by contributing a useful point to any discussion? Even something as importaint as this without trying to push your own personal vendettas?

Twinny · #**195** 01-25-2007, 06:24 AM

It's always said that it's Unixmad's forum. Is it possible to take up some initiative? Some empowerment? If you don't like something, don't just sit there and take it: stand up and tell them. Take initiative. You might gain respect from the person. If not, probably not worth working for. If a forum administrator is empowered (Moonie, Sam, Someone else : whoever!), it should be a load of weight of Unixmad's back anyways. Forums will be able to deal with change on a more consistent basis.

excaliber7388 · #**196** 01-25-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Did any of you stop to think that if unixmad does not change the forums despite all your complaints, that maybe he doesn't want them changed? I can assure you that he does see the complaints, as he has told me that he gets many complaints about me.

And guess what...part of my job is not arguing for you members of the forums, but if I felt strongly about something, I would fight for it. I suggest if you feel strongly about something, you fight for it yourself, the same as I would, but in an appropriate way, and the appropriate place.

If your customers are unhappy you lose them.
Do...you...get...that?!

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No, I do not.

I thought as much.
(but seriously, you do have that much power).

Gambet · #**197** 01-25-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT READ THE THREAD AND AS USUAL COMES IN HERE POSTING WHATEVER TRYING TO LOOK BETTER IN THE EYES OF UPPER MANAGEMENT.

Sorry for my caps but this really bugs me, cant you help out once in your life by contributing a useful point to any discussion? Even something as importaint as this without trying to push your own personal vendettas?

I was referring to the comment that I quoted that was directed towards Darlene, not about anything else posted.

Looks like you're the one that's having trouble with reading, pal.

Andy0687 · #**198** 01-25-2007, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

I was referring to the comment that I quoted that was directed towards Darlene, not about anything else posted.

Im sorry what part of the two words "You all" means just the one person you quoted? I must be confused.

Gambet · #**199** 01-25-2007, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

Im sorry what part of the two words "You all" means just the one person you quoted? I must be confused.

It's a general term, directed at all general posts that have been made that stated something similar as that of which I quoted.

Don't try to act like a smart ass when you yourself have no idea what you're talking about.

Twinny · #**200** 01-25-2007, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

Don't try to act like a smart ass when you yourself have no idea what you're talking about.

Instead of ignorance and arrogance, perhaps you could settle the matter without use of insults?

-I have no quarrels with deleted posts when the post is in response to another deleted post

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