Windows v6 beta test

[Tigairius]

Edit by Skyld:

I created this thread to keep a track of the bugs in the new Graal 6 client for Windows. I have moved posts from the Mac beta thread to this one. Please post any bugs or problems that you have here. Also consider checking if this bug has already been discussed in the Mac Beta Bugs thread, and make sure that you post the version of Windows that you are running, some information about your hardware and precisely how you replicate the error. I shall try and keep a track of bugs in this post.

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Edit by Tig:

I will gray out anything that gets fixed, if something is fixed and it doesn't get grayed out, feel free to do it.
I will also collect some of the bug reports throughout this thread and post it on this main page.

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Note to beta testers: Connect to "Login 2" to get the updated things (like updated profiles/playerlist). If you notice any bugs or have any suggestions for the profiles/playerlist please write them in here or forum PM me, suggestions about scripted-RC and other things (like Shared functions) would be best to contact Skyld.

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Bugs in v6

+ If you copy something, you cannot copy something anymore, and you will only paste what you originally copied.

+ When calling "maximized = true" and "minimized = true" and such it is acting very strangely. Maximize doesn't maximize a window and minimize seems to destroy all the controls in the window and just decrease the size of the window to something really small.

+ canresize, canmove, canmaximize, etc don't work on external windows.

+ Movement becomes choppy "randomly" sometimes, and movement on attached objects is buggy (this happened after the added memory editing protection to the player.x/y/z in the most recent compiled version).

+ Tile layers support alpha blending (unlike v5) but now they don't support transparency.

+ If you mouse over something that doesn't have a hint, and you're currently looking at hints, the last hint you saw will still be displayed (see playerlist, hover over a player then move over to your "Buddies" tab or so).

+ onDblClick isn't invoked on a textlistctrl if there are multiple selections.

+ There is still some bug with showpolies being displayed 50 tiles south of where I intended them, but I'm unable to replicate it anywhere except my level editor (Tig/LLE on GK Debug -- you can test by pressing F4 and trying to select tiles on the level).
^ Update: Now it seems to be displaying about 3 tiles north of the correct place.

+ Functions like showtop() and makefirstresopnder(bool) are not working on external windows.

+ Windows open at mousex/mousey rather than what's defined in their script.

+ Emitters don't work with text.

+ When you have your mouse down and a new window pops up under your mouse, your mouseup event will never be invoked. Would be nice if it was doing some sort of object checking so it knew to invoke the event for mouseup.
For example, if you right click someone to open their profile, the "rightmousebutton" flag is still set to true, even after you close their profile, until you right-click again.

+ While you're walking and you press alt/ctrl or you click out of Graal, you will just continue walking even if you're not pressing the keys. The above suggestion could probably fix this.
^Update: Alt/ctrl is ok now, but if you click another window while walking you still continue walking.

+ Guitextlistctrls don't update unless they are active or you hover your mouse over them, for things like the playerlist this is not a good thing.

- should add some script commands (if not already added) to control a player's online status (like for plisticons: online,dnd,away,etc)

+ Login privileged scripts can't seem to read from the main graal folder anymore but they can write to the main graal folder.

+ External windows aren't calling events like onResize().

- Things like GuiPopUpMenuCtrls can support icons, but they only display in the drop-down list. As you can see here the icon displays, but in GS2, it doesn't: (even though the selected row has an icon). Reference to the playerlist on Login 2 for examples.

+ There are some problems with drawing on several controls (like scroll), you can see here that unless the scroll is clicked or scrolled, it cuts off the right side of the scroll:
How it should look:
An example would be open your profile on Graal and just press enter a bunch of times in your "favourite quote" box, you'll notice that until you scroll the box or click the scroll, part of the scroll is chopped off.

+ There is also no task bar icon, it's just a blank 16x16 open spot:

~ Reminder: Don't forget to pack the icons when you release the client.

+ Run command -listscriptfunctions is not working, it simply starts Graal normally. Actually, TSA reports that no run commands are working.

+ Certain bodies aren't displaying properly. (See: post 1 & post 2)

+ Syntaxhighlighting crashes the client.

+ Possible UDP problems? (See Rufus' post)

+ You can't walk and do an emoticon that is animated, only those that aren't.

+ When you drag external windows across the screen, it quits drawing the main Graal window. It would be nice if it continued to update other windows instead of doing this while you're dragging a window (Note: winXP and lower only):



Important Suggestions

* Suggestion: The "flickering" boolean, maybe it should also have something like "flickerimage" so we can define what is displayed in between flickers, and if flickerimage is not defined it could just show nothing. (This is needed for the playerlist).

* Suggestion: Some way to select multiple rows in a textlist, like setSelectedRows({0,1,2,3,4}); and setSelectedRowsByID({12,43,20,13,1}); This would be used for the playerlist.

* Suggestion: Some way to select text in a MLText ctrl.

* Suggestion: Some way to flash external windows when they're updated. On Mac the default behavior for this is to "pop" the window out on the dock, and certain linux distros also support the window flashing. Should look like this:


* Suggestion: Should update the client so .nw files also can specify if a tilelayer is blocking or non-blocking or using the tileset, and also if the tilelayer is drawoverplayer or drawunderplayer, etc. Also need to add some scripting variables to access this.

* Suggestion: In v6, you should check the integrity of default files like sword.gani, head0.png, sprites.png, etc so we don't have servers replacing them or so.

* Suggestion: Some sort of boolean for external windows to show always on top whenever the Graal client is the active application. Boolean could be something like GuiWindowCtrl.alwaysontop. (Will be used for the playerlist, PMs and Profiles).

Unimportant Suggestions

* Would be neat if string.substring(-1) cut off 1 character from the back of the string instead of having to do string.substring(0, string.length() - 1);

* Some level.zoom affect to scale the size of the level would be neat. I know many people had hoped this is possible. It would open a lot of possibilities for Graal, especially if it's also able to be done with tilelayers.

* Enabling timevar3 on regular servers.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

- onDblClick isn't invoked on a textlistctrl if there are multiple selections.

Aren't double clicks selecting a single list entry anyway?

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

- If you mouse over something that doesn't have a hint, and you're currently looking at hints, the last hint you saw will still be displayed (see playerlist, hover over a player then move over to your "Buddies" tab or so).

Fixed.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

- There is still some bug with showpolies being displayed 50 tiles south of where I intended them, but I'm unable to replicate it anywhere except my level editor (Tig/LLE on GK Debug -- you can test by pressing F4 and trying to select tiles on the level).

Fixed, was a problem with the menu moving the graal control offset.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

- Things like GuiPopUpMenuCtrls can support icons, but they only display in the drop-down list. As you can see here the icon displays, but in GS2, it doesn't: (even though the selected row has an icon). Reference to the playerlist on Login 2 for examples.

Ok added icon display in GuiPopUpMenuCtrl.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Hmmm requires these images (in graal folder), someone remind me to package them with the next version:

Actually, would it be possible to control the icon via login-privileged scripts? Would be nice for the playerlist to show when you're getting a PM and stuff. Also an option to turn the icon off.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Another thing I'd really like to see fixed would be this:

- When you drag external windows across the screen, it quits drawing the main Graal window. It would be nice if it continued to update other windows instead of doing this while you're dragging a window:

Very odd; I don't get this on Windows 7.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Very odd; I don't get this on Windows 7.

I assume Tig is using Windows XP. In Windows Vista the window manager was changed and now caches the image a program displayed to prevent that exact issue from happening due to lock ups.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Very odd; I don't get this on Windows 7.

I also do not get this on Windows 7


- Player movement is rendered very choppy for some reason (cannot find the cause) but the canvas continues to render flawlessly.
- Cannot copy and paste multiple times, only once...
- movement on GMAP is not as nice as the initial beta released many months ago, it takes a long time to load the GMAP from an interior level and there is a short pause when the client loads the next level during movement.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Very odd; I don't get this on Windows 7.

Nor do I. That said, all bugs I report have occurred on Windows 7. Here are some things I do notice-


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-Some heads and bodies (Only seems to be on Classic servers, had no problems on Zone or GK) are not displaying at all. The heads aren't always a problem, but there are still some that don't show up. A lot of bodies don't show up at all though.

-Just a sidenote on this screenshot while it's up though, behind my "Movement chooser" GUI in the lower right, you'll notice that Era's displayed text for server alerts never disappears, just turns black. I'm figuring there's some support issues related to how Era displays it's messages specifically because it doesn't look to have any problem with showtext();


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-Trying to edit in Client RC causes the client to not respond, and inevitably crash once you click a script to edit.


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-No matter what setting you choose for "Run:" in the Graal's shortcut properties, it will open in "Normal window" but with the attribute chosen enabled anyway. EG: I set my Graal shortcut to "Run Maximized", but opening it the game doesn't open maximised at all, however the "Maximize" button is still visually changed to "Restore Down".


This is not the bug in action, but on Kingdoms when you hold down left, right and down, it is almost identical to the bug.
-Okay, I am not entirely sure what causes this one specifically but after the client's been running for some time, I've noticed that switching from one window to another then back to the Game client seems to give slow movement feedback to the client to respond.
For example, once the bug kicks in, I cant move diagonally (Doesn't allow two buttons at once to be pressed, the new button cancels the first), and when I do move the feeling is as if it is moving 1 tile every 0.05 seconds with a sharp pause giving instead of a solid __________ feel like you see in my video, it gives a ---------- feel with cuts in the movement, jolts if you will.

If you get "An error occurred. Please try again later. it may not be "Live" just yet.

-No screenshot for this one since it happens only randomly, but it was also a bug in v5 that seems to have continued over to v6, and I'm sure most of you have probably seen it before. The player's head in the minimap occasionally changes to a randomly selected other online player's head image.

That's all I have for now that I gathered since I started testing.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

This is not the bug in action, but on Kingdoms when you hold down left, right and down, it is almost identical to the bug.
-Okay, I am not entirely sure what causes this one specifically but after the client's been running for some time, I've noticed that switching from one window to another then back to the Game client seems to give slow movement feedback to the client to respond.
For example, once the bug kicks in, I cant move diagonally (Doesn't allow two buttons at once to be pressed, the new button cancels the first), and when I do move the feeling is as if it is moving 1 tile every 0.05 seconds with a sharp pause giving instead of a solid __________ feel like you see in my video, it gives a ---------- feel with cuts in the movement, jolts if you will.

If you get "An error occurred. Please try again later. it may not be "Live" just yet.

Okay, I managed to replicate the glitch by using multiple "ALT + KEY" combinations and sometimes holding them both down (Not sure if it's just ALT + Key, or if it's just any two keys held down too long).



Notice how the first set of seconds its like I'm moving, stopping, moving, stopping like the -------- explanation I used earlier, then the last few (After pausing video, closing and reopening a new instance of Graal) I am moving smoothly like ____________

[Rufus]

Playerlist:

• When a member of staff sends out a mass message on tag, their PM bubble is just blue like a regular mass. Only the bubble that is on the top of the playerlist tab displays red.
• When a player or member of staff sends a message/guild message, their heads are hidden when the bubble 'animation' is playing. Shouldn't their heads show when the PM bubble isn't flashing, instead of it just being blank?
• Players who you select to PM go to the top of the list of players and it doesn't seem right.
• There is a pretty large delay (a good 30 seconds) in the playerlist displaying guild tags once set. This also applies for moving the person into the guild tab, and for those who are unsetting their tags.
• People who have removed their guild tags still remain in the guild list.

Profiles:

• Profile labels are being cut because of the input boxes.
• The "Favorite Quote" part of the profile isn't wrapping.

Other:

• I have to be unpaused to open the Options window using F3.
• F5 still brings up the Load Level window, but is this still used?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Rufus

[*]F5 still brings up the Load Level window, but is this still used?

Something like this should only open for Staff imo.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Rufus

• When a member of staff sends out a mass message on tag, their PM bubble is just blue like a regular mass. Only the bubble that is on the top of the playerlist tab displays red.

Is this really a bad thing?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Playerlist:

• When a member of staff sends out a mass message on tag, their PM bubble is just blue like a regular mass. Only the bubble that is on the top of the playerlist tab displays red.
• When a player or member of staff sends a message/guild message, their heads are hidden when the bubble 'animation' is playing. Shouldn't their heads show when the PM bubble isn't flashing, instead of it just being blank?
• Players who you select to PM go to the top of the list of players and it doesn't seem right.

I'll try to fix these soon. The second one is actually a problem stefan may have to fix with the "flickering" boolean.

Originally Posted by Rufus

• There is a pretty large delay (a good 30 seconds) in the playerlist displaying guild tags once set. This also applies for moving the person into the guild tab, and for those who are unsetting their tags.
• People who have removed their guild tags still remain in the guild list.

Alright, I have improved the time it takes to update but it should never have been 30 seconds, the timer was on 2 seconds. Perhaps you mean that the playerlist wasn't updating but that's a bug that's already on the main page (guitextlistctrls not updating).

Originally Posted by Rufus

Profiles:

• Profile labels are being cut because of the input boxes.
• The "Favorite Quote" part of the profile isn't wrapping.

Are you sure you're using the profile system from "Login 2"? I remember fixing both of those things.

Make sure you're using the profile and playerlist system from Login 2.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Playerlist:

• When a member of staff sends out a mass message on tag, their PM bubble is just blue like a regular mass. Only the bubble that is on the top of the playerlist tab displays red.
• Players who you select to PM go to the top of the list of players and it doesn't seem right.

These are fixed now (on Login 2 only).

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Nor do I. That said, all bugs I report have occurred on Windows 7. Here are some things I do notice-


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-Some heads and bodies (Only seems to be on Classic servers, had no problems on Zone or GK) are not displaying at all. The heads aren't always a problem, but there are still some that don't show up. A lot of bodies don't show up at all though.

that totally happens on linux(none beta) client too.
it seems to only happen with the default body system...

[Rufus]

• Nicknames that are enlarged through script become quite blurred. [Example]

[Tigairius]

Hmm.. Windows are still opening at mousex/y

Originally Posted by zephirot

How to access the beta?

The Windows beta is not open yet, but more information will be posted soon.

Edit: Contact Skyld for information.

[DustyPorViva]

Is the body problem the typical bug where changing the color values of the gani makes them disappear until they move? Or are files missing or some such?

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Is the body problem the typical bug where changing the color values of the gani makes them disappear until they move? Or are files missing or some such?

Files are not missing and it happens even when you setbody to a body that is affected by this bug. Moving doesn't do anything either. You're a floating head basically. Changing from a body that does display to a body that doesn't though, the part of the image displayed when you did setbody to an affected body to denote the direction you were facing sticks, so if I were facing left with body1.png, then setbody to an affected body, whether I move left, right, up down, pull, push, anything the body I was previously wearing is displayed stuck in the left position until I set my body to an unaffected file.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Files are not missing and it happens even when you setbody to a body that is affected by this bug. Moving doesn't do anything either. You're a floating head basically. Changing from a body that does display to a body that doesn't though, the part of the image displayed when you did setbody to an affected body to denote the direction you were facing sticks, so if I were facing left with body1.png, then setbody to an affected body, whether I move left, right, up down, pull, push, anything the body I was previously wearing is displayed stuck in the left position until I set my body to an unaffected file.

This (or a similar thing) happens on the Mac client as well, for example with "era_tachi-newsuit1.png" (attached) on Era.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Aren't double clicks selecting a single list entry anyway?

Currently, on native windows you can hold shift on a textlist and select many things and double click when you're done to open a mass message, so onDblClick() should also work with multiple selections.

Edit: I see what you mean though, when DblClick is invoked with multiple selections, just make it send the last entry the player clicked.

Originally Posted by Stefan

You mean when you change the text of an entry?

Yes, or an entry is added/removed.

[Admins]

(for GuiTextListCtrl)

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Yes, or an entry is added/removed.

I've checked it, it's updating fine when adding or removing entries because the size of the control is changing which is automatically updating its content.
Do you change some attribute of the entries dynamically?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Stefan

(for GuiTextListCtrl)

I've checked it, it's updating fine when adding or removing entries because the size of the control is changing which is automatically updating its content.
Do you change some attribute of the entries dynamically?

Nope, it happens on all guitextlist controls, for example, on the playerlist, if you put your playerlist on the right side of your screen and just walk around on Graal, if someone PMs you it will show a yellow PM icon next to someone random until you hover your mouse over the person which is when it updates and shows the correct name.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Nope, it happens on all guitextlist controls, for example, on the playerlist, if you put your playerlist on the right side of your screen and just walk around on Graal, if someone PMs you it will show a yellow PM icon next to someone random until you hover your mouse over the person which is when it updates and shows the correct name.

This happens on Mac too.

[Umat]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

This happens on Mac too.

same for me. the list doesn't seem to update unless the playerlist is the active window. sometimes it just happens anyway, even if the window is active.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Nope, it happens on all guitextlist controls, for example, on the playerlist, if you put your playerlist on the right side of your screen and just walk around on Graal, if someone PMs you it will show a yellow PM icon next to someone random until you hover your mouse over the person which is when it updates and shows the correct name.

But it's not when adding or removing an item, it's when you get a PM
Will make it so that it's updating on sort()

[TSAdmin]

-"Full screen resolution" option in F3 doesn't save your choice anymore. Other F3 options seem to change and retain fine.

[Rufus]

• When moving (on all defined movement controls) if you Alt and Tab out of the window your character won't stop moving in the direction you were heading in. Much like the Ctrl/Alt bug I mentioned earlier with IJKL movement.

[TSAdmin]

On the note of character's not being read properly, I notice this in the Game Messages & Engine Log:

Couldn't open C:Windowsfonts empsitc.ttf for writing!
File download: head983.gif (size: 3978) done
File download: microsoft sans serif.ttf not found
File download: idle.gani (size: 7988) done
File download: segoe uibd.ttf not found
File download: segoe ui.ttf not found
File download: tempsitcbd.ttf not found
File download: ariali.ttf not found
File download: arialit.ttf not found

Notice the first entry, it doesn't have any backslashes, so it's not finding the path to the fonts folder by the looks of it.

[TSAdmin]

Hmm, not sure if this is fixed with your login2 stuff or not, Tig. I've mostly been using the login2, but just noticed one thing without them:

-F2 messages (sendRPGMessage(); ) do not update unless the F2 window is already open. Noticed this while levelling on GK and using /skills

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Hmm, not sure if this is fixed with your login2 stuff or not, Tig. I've mostly been using the login2, but just noticed one thing without them:

-F2 messages (sendRPGMessage(); ) do not update unless the F2 window is already open. Noticed this while levelling on GK and using /skills

Yes, I've noticed that too, I think the problem with that is that it's not logging messages unless you open it at least once (then you can close it again and experience no problems). Maybe I can get that fixed.

[TSAdmin]

I noticed something on GK with the boats where the script is trying to update the players location in relation to the boat but it doesn't seem to be working in v6. Perhaps there's a slight downfall in support for this. As with 90% of my bug reports, here's a short video to show you the bug in action:


As usual, if you get An error occurred. Please try again later, check back again after 5 or so minutes. The video may not be "Live" yet.
Also, sorry about the MSN and Trillian sounds in the background!

[Shadow5596321]

All I see is the captain wanting his booty. Yes, I really just did that.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ Login privileged scripts can't seem to read from the main graal folder anymore but they can write to the main graal folder.

That is not new and not a bug. Scripts are not meant to be able to read from the root Graal folder.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ There is also no task bar icon, it's just a blank 16x16 open spot: Attachment 50173

~ Reminder: Don't forget to pack the icons!

Delete your FILENAMECACHE.txt.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ When you drag external windows across the screen, it quits drawing the main Graal window. It would be nice if it continued to update other windows instead of doing this while you're dragging a window (Note: winXP and lower only): ...

That is Windows-specific, Windows is freezing the process. The only way to solve that would be to create another process for the player list, but that would be too complex and not really worth the effort. So it is not planned to add that anytime soon. In newer generations of Windows it is fixed.

[Crono]

Wiggling an ingame window back and forth minimizes the client.

Character appears to "tear" when moving. For example if you run in a direction and hold, say, shift+v you will sit and move in that direction while sitting. On the old client this is smooth, but on the new one the head appears to "bob" back and forth. This happens on all ganis, kind of reminds me of when your screen tears due to really high FPS so "tearing" is the only way I can describe it.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Crono

Wiggling an ingame window back and forth minimizes the client.

Hmm, I'm unable to replicate this. What are your computer specs and stuff? Could you maybe explain it differently?

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Hmm, I'm unable to replicate this. What are your computer specs and stuff? Could you maybe explain it differently?

he means that if u shake the titlebar on, for example, the external clientrc, all other windows get minimized, this is a windows 7 effect.
i get it too, but i dont see any problem in it, unless the external windows are meant as 1 window(graal), not multiply windows(graal,playerlist,clientrc).

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

• can't bring the playerlist to front by pressing F7 when it's already open (in the client, not on the playerlist).
• if a window (example, Scripted-RC) is open, and u press the hotkey again (F6) you close the window instead of bringing it to the front ( in the client, not the window )

i get this too, on windows 7.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

he means that if u shake the titlebar on, for example, the external clientrc, all other windows get minimized, this is a windows 7 effect.
i get it too, but i dont see any problem in it, unless the external windows are meant as 1 window(graal), not multiply windows(graal,playerlist,clientrc).


i get this too, on windows 7.

Yes, these are because there is no showtop() or makefirstresponder effects, it's on the main page

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Crono

Character appears to "tear" when moving. For example if you run in a direction and hold, say, shift+v you will sit and move in that direction while sitting. On the old client this is smooth, but on the new one the head appears to "bob" back and forth. This happens on all ganis, kind of reminds me of when your screen tears due to really high FPS so "tearing" is the only way I can describe it.

I get this too and it's really annoying. I figured it was just my crappy laptop, obviously not.