Windows v6 beta test

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Something like this should only open for Staff imo.

i disagree, it can be used by players to report bugs on a level and other stuffs.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ Login privileged scripts can't seem to read from the main graal folder anymore but they can write to the main graal folder.

That is not new and not a bug. Scripts are not meant to be able to read from the root Graal folder.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ There is also no task bar icon, it's just a blank 16x16 open spot: Attachment 50173

~ Reminder: Don't forget to pack the icons!

Delete your FILENAMECACHE.txt.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ When you drag external windows across the screen, it quits drawing the main Graal window. It would be nice if it continued to update other windows instead of doing this while you're dragging a window (Note: winXP and lower only): ...

That is Windows-specific, Windows is freezing the process. The only way to solve that would be to create another process for the player list, but that would be too complex and not really worth the effort. So it is not planned to add that anytime soon. In newer generations of Windows it is fixed.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Rufus

[*]The default "font height" on both the Graal 5 and Graal 6 clients is "24" but there is a notable difference in size. In addition to this, the text in the Graal 6 client isn't in bold like the other previous versions. [Graal 5] [Graal 6]

The font rendering has been changed, but that particialy problems seems to be more that specific font. Tempus Sans somehow displays different, will check sometime if that can be improved.

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

-Trying to edit in Client RC causes the client to not respond, and inevitably crash once you click a script to edit.

Sounds similar to a problem we had on Mac before. It would be good if someone could reproduce the error and check if it has to do with the recreation of the RC window - connecting to a different server and then opening the RC again or so.

About F5: it's now a scripted window (-Serverlist_LoadLevel) and can be improved to display more stuff or so. It's meant as quick way to see the current position and can sometimes be helpful.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Stefan

About F5: it's now a scripted window (-Serverlist_LoadLevel) and can be improved to display more stuff or so. It's meant as quick way to see the current position and can sometimes be helpful.

The scripted F5 window always bugged me. Way too large for the tiny information it displays.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Are you sure you're using the profile system from "Login 2"? I remember fixing both of those things.

Make sure you're using the profile and playerlist system from Login 2.

Yeah, I was using the login1 playerlist because I didn't see the updated opening post, so forget the profile errors. Here are some bugs on this one though:

• The ability to see your buddies/guild members online that aren't on the same server seems to be absent, but it does work in the login1 playerlist.
  Update: I see the option is unchecked in my playerlist options, but I can't seem to check it? Along with other options.
• The guild tab (second along) doesn't display people online and on tag that are in the guilds once you've expanded them, even when refreshing. One person showed when I didn't have their guild expanded, and another was always there but at the bottom of the list when I hadn't expanded any guilds.
• When you open up the server tab (third one along) and expand some servers, the players don't appear under the server that they're from, they just list at the bottom.
• If I scroll to the bottom of both the guild and the server lists (using page down or arrow keys) it will open a PM for the last person on it.

BTW..

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ When you drag external windows across the screen, it quits drawing the main Graal window. It would be nice if it continued to update other windows instead of doing this while you're dragging a window (Note: winXP and lower only)

This also happened to me when I first started playing with the client (told Skyld) but I can't replicate it anymore. I'm on Windows 7.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Update: I see the option is unchecked in my playerlist options, but I can't seem to check it? Along with other options.

Fixed this, will see about the other stuff soon.

Originally Posted by Rufus

If I scroll to the bottom of both the guild and the server lists (using page down or arrow keys) it will open a PM for the last person on it.

I found the reason this is happening, it's because I had to use a workaround in order to be able to double click multiple selections (in case you wanted to just mass message your buddies or something). I could try to make another workaround to avoid that, but let's see if Stefan fixes onDblClick with multiple selections first (which would inevitably fix it).

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

-Trying to edit in Client RC causes the client to not respond, and inevitably crash once you click a script to edit.

Originally Posted by Stefan

Sounds similar to a problem we had on Mac before. It would be good if someone could reproduce the error and check if it has to do with the recreation of the RC window - connecting to a different server and then opening the RC again or so.

Spent some time trying to locate what was doing this, it's whenever syntaxhighlighting=true it crashes the client. This is a good find, TSA.

[Crono]

Wiggling an ingame window back and forth minimizes the client.

Character appears to "tear" when moving. For example if you run in a direction and hold, say, shift+v you will sit and move in that direction while sitting. On the old client this is smooth, but on the new one the head appears to "bob" back and forth. This happens on all ganis, kind of reminds me of when your screen tears due to really high FPS so "tearing" is the only way I can describe it.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Crono

Wiggling an ingame window back and forth minimizes the client.

Hmm, I'm unable to replicate this. What are your computer specs and stuff? Could you maybe explain it differently?

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Crono

Character appears to "tear" when moving. For example if you run in a direction and hold, say, shift+v you will sit and move in that direction while sitting. On the old client this is smooth, but on the new one the head appears to "bob" back and forth. This happens on all ganis, kind of reminds me of when your screen tears due to really high FPS so "tearing" is the only way I can describe it.

I get this too and it's really annoying. I figured it was just my crappy laptop, obviously not.

[Twinny]

I've found I cannot jump off the cliffs I could normally jump off in v5. I tested on N-Pulse and Zodiac.

I've attached a picture of the cliffs I was trying to jump off. Instead of jumping, I just start trying to push the cliffs over while I had some people jumping down the cliffs next to me.

[Umat]

OS: Windows XP SP3
Graphics card:
Description: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
Driver version: 6.14.11.8208

This happens to me on layered levels on maloria:

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Umat

OS: Windows XP SP3
Graphics card:
Description: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
Driver version: 6.14.11.8208

This happens to me on layered levels on maloria:
Attachment 50234

This is fixed in Stefan's v6 version.

[Umat]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

This is fixed in Stefan's v6 version.

Oh, well, I got both Windows and Linux from Skyld. Maybe both versions isn't up to date (which is causing my problem on Linux).

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Umat

Oh, well, I got both Windows and Linux from Skyld. Maybe both versions isn't up to date (which is causing my problem on Linux).

That was a problem because alpha transparency was not working properly on all the tilelayers; Stefan's already fixed it and it will be in the next beta release.

[Umat]

Alright.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Twinny

I've found I cannot jump off the cliffs I could normally jump off in v5. I tested on N-Pulse and Zodiac.

I've attached a picture of the cliffs I was trying to jump off. Instead of jumping, I just start trying to push the cliffs over while I had some people jumping down the cliffs next to me.

Ok fixed, was already wondering why it doesn't work on Classic iPhone. We have added some modifications for making some classic stuff working on gmap but it bugged the jump tile detection.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

+ Certain bodies aren't displaying properly. (See: post 1 & post 2)

Fixed in my version, it was expecting classic bodies to be palettized.

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Fixed in my version, it was expecting classic bodies to be palettized.

what about bodies that doesn't show?

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Rufus

[*]You can't walk and do an emoticon that is animated, only those that aren't.

Same in v5, if there is "stay" in the filename then the emoticon stays but disappears when moving. It doesn't make sense to run around with "AFK" emoticon Will make it possible anyway.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

what about bodies that doesn't show?

Well they don't show because they are not palettized

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Hmm, I'm unable to replicate this. What are your computer specs and stuff? Could you maybe explain it differently?

he means that if u shake the titlebar on, for example, the external clientrc, all other windows get minimized, this is a windows 7 effect.
i get it too, but i dont see any problem in it, unless the external windows are meant as 1 window(graal), not multiply windows(graal,playerlist,clientrc).

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

• can't bring the playerlist to front by pressing F7 when it's already open (in the client, not on the playerlist).
• if a window (example, Scripted-RC) is open, and u press the hotkey again (F6) you close the window instead of bringing it to the front ( in the client, not the window )

i get this too, on windows 7.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

he means that if u shake the titlebar on, for example, the external clientrc, all other windows get minimized, this is a windows 7 effect.
i get it too, but i dont see any problem in it, unless the external windows are meant as 1 window(graal), not multiply windows(graal,playerlist,clientrc).


i get this too, on windows 7.

Yes, these are because there is no showtop() or makefirstresponder effects, it's on the main page

[xXziroXx]

Not sure if we can post about suggestions in this thread or not, but since you have a section about it in the first post, I'll take my chances.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=87559

Would be rather useful. Also, have I missed something, or is the promised open beta still closed and just made official, or where can I get the beta version of v6? Have a bunch of stuff I'd like to try on Maloria with it.

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

where can I get the beta version of v6?

the person you are looking for, starts with a s and ends with kyld.

[Admins]

There is new beta version, short list of modifications:
- 24bit pngs should work fine now as bodies on classic servers
- small speed improvements for drawing classic bodies
- you can use emoticons like afk, brb etc. while walking
- copy&paste should work better
- you can jump down from small cliffs again
- fixed crash on syntaxhighlighting = true in GuiMLTextCtrls
- some more hacking protections
- doesn't try to install Tempus Sans font anymore since it can now use fonts from the graal folder (and downloaded fonts) anyway
- fixed player being warped around while being attached to an npc (kingdoms ships)
- the hearts (ying-yang) are displayed at the regular place instead of at a shifted position like on iphone

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Stefan

- copy&paste should work better

Doesn't seem to have changed

[Stephen]

I noticed the player-related tool-tips don't display in the playerlist unless you have it focused. Kind of annoying

[oo_jazz_oo]

Some things I found -

• Can't change default font (only size)
• My head on N-Pulse does not show up, even though it is uploaded.
  (heads_npulse/0wned-head2.png: downloadable, head image, 2635 byte, 2006-06-24 03:53:56)
• Playerlist and other external windows always open to mouse. It would be better if the playerlist opened to where it was previously closed, and pms and other windows should open in the center of the screen like previous versions.
• No right click > warp on playerlist (I assume this is updated in the version from login2, but when I try to go to login2, it tells me my client is not supported, and closes Graal)
• After closing a gui window, focus is not returned to the player, and you cannot move until you click
• Changing zoom makes images blurry and very unappealing

And my specs, just so you know:
Running on Windows 7 64-bit
AMD Phenom Quad core processor
Ati Radeon DH 2300 Graphics

If these things have been pointed out in previous posts, sorry for bringing them up again. :P
But i'm just pointing out things I've found.

[cbk1994]

Windows 7 x64

Playerlist/PMs

• The playerlist doesn't dock. This may seem like a small thing, but it's pretty big, at least for me. I always have my playerlist docked. This is why I will be using the old client instead of the beta one for now.
• The playerlist has to be selected to open/close it with F7. Not sure if this is a glitch with external windows or with the playerlist. It works fine with F3, so I assume it's a glitch with the playerlist.
• The drop-down list for your status needs to have 'textProfile = GuiBlueTextListProfile'.
• "Show buddies on other servers" should be enabled by default like it is in the old client.
• If the playerlist isn't active (e.g. minimized), pressing F7 should bring it to the top.
• "Warpto (Staff)" shows even when you aren't staff. It's probably worth finding a way to make it only show for staff since it looks unprofessional.

Other

• Shadow alpha of text needs to be multiplied by the text's alpha. Otherwise, it leaves the shadow behind. This applies to all of the new clients, not just the Windows one.
• minExtent doesn't work for external windows.
• Closing an external window doesn't make Graal active if you had previously been using another application. This is especially noticeable with the playerlist, and when closing PMs.
• Uploading files with client-RC doesn't work, period. It also doesn't work using automated uploading systems which use the personaluploads folder.
• You can't drag and drop files into the file browser external window.
• ALT + 3 to show/hide the map makes an error-esque dinging noise, as does ALT + 2 for screenshots, ALT + S to send PMs, etc.
• External windows have to be focused for them to receive mouse wheel events (annoying with the playerlist)
• This glitch exists now.

[Admins]

I've fixed the file upload, scripts now need to call uploadfile(filename) to actually upload the file (they might like to do other things with the filename) (setting FileSelector_Window.requestscript to make sure it's us who requested it):

PHP Code:

function onMenuItemUploadFile() {
  FileSelector_Window.requestscript = this.name;
  selectFileForUpload();
}

function onSelectedFileForUpload(fullfilename) {
  if (FileSelector_Window.requestscript==this.name)
    uploadfile(fullfilename);
} 


[Admins]

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

[*]My head on N-Pulse does not show up, even though it is uploaded.
(heads_npulse/0wned-head2.png: downloadable, head image, 2635 byte, 2006-06-24 03:53:56)

Looks fine to me, anyone else has this problem?

[Crono]

The minimap still shows the wrong head icon. This has been a problem since v5, for some reason it shows someone else's head instead of mine.

[Umat]

Originally Posted by Crono

The minimap still shows the wrong head icon. This has been a problem since v5, for some reason it shows someone else's head instead of mine.

Same for me.

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Umat

Same for me.

same here, @ windows & linux.

[Fulg0reSama]

Same for me as well.

[Admins]

Ok mini map icon fixed in my version.

[Vima]

Could I be a tester for the Version 6?
I'm working on AEON and i'd love to see if I can find any bugs before it's too late.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Ok mini map icon fixed in my version.

Show off.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by Vima

Could I be a tester for the Version 6?
I'm working on AEON and i'd love to see if I can find any bugs before it's too late.

Most bugs, if not all, found will have to do with the client not supporting something yet rather than the server not supporting the client. However, you should e-mail Skyld about such requests as Beta testing. Due to the client updating often though, he's probably only selecting people who he can easily contact and give new beta version updates to, I can't be sure of his selection process though so I could be wrong. You can only ask, right?