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Old 08-20-2011, 04:53 PM
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Zone Ideas And Stuffs

I'm posting this here since no one really looks at anything but this page then closes their browser.

Anyway I'm now the manager of zone wooo/booo all that I'm expecting on here now, i don't really care.

Anyway if you want to say an idea for zone say it, that's basically what this thread is about, what will actually help zone?

Before anyone says there's loads of ideas already on here it's hard to find them with the amount of deleted posts/threads you have to get through, also i'll try be active on this thread so zone players themselves can at least give some input and receive some feedback.

Also try resist to just troll on this thread thanks
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:34 PM
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What weps will be getting nerfed?
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:09 PM
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What weps will be getting nerfed?
we're gonna test all weapons first and see
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:39 AM
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don't touch the weapons, they are fine, at-least the old ones.
annoy the hell out of stefan to remove gralat weapons, etc.

stuff like that' all been said before if you read previous threads
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:49 AM
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don't touch the weapons, they are fine, at-least the old ones.
annoy the hell out of stefan to remove gralat weapons, etc.

stuff like that' all been said before if you read previous threads
The basic weapons will be left mostly alone. It's only the gelat weapons and the permanant weapons (for example, Doubleshot) that will be nerfed.

Stefan doesn't show much indication of wanting to remove the Gelat system. Unfortunately, greed has blinded him to the situation.
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The basic weapons will be left mostly alone. It's only the gelat weapons and the permanant weapons (for example, Doubleshot) that will be nerfed.
Are you reducing the damage or the spread on the DS?
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Are you reducing the damage or the spread on the DS?
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:47 AM
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probably damage because reducing spread just make it if they shoot at you from a closer range more will hit :o



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add some perms at higher prices then.

add back ammo clips.
Ammo clips are Gelat shop so we're gonna try get them back into the game.
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Zombie Map: Players start as humans, 1 or 2 start as zombies. humans get weapons, zombies get swords, but have greatly increased speed, while humans are followed by limited area of sight (EASILY done by a script and an image and I LOVE THE EFFECT), while zombies can see just fine.

City Map: Everyone loves crowded city maps.

Smoke Grenades: Covers an area and jams the radar in the smoke covered area?

Class Skills: While alot of the classes simply differ in speed and available weapons, classes could have passive skills that enable the player to actually do better using the weapons that class is supposed to use. Grenadiers get longer mortar distance... Light infantry move 10% faster.... stuff like that?

Kill Display: Move the ugly looking 'Aeko killed Tenchery' ui into the top right corner of the screen, like other shooters have it. It removes it from the chat area space and my opinion is it would look nicer in the top right corner... Also, rework it's ugly graphics, I recall the large X is quite ugly.

Remove 'gold only' hotkeys: It's almost game-breaking to be able to instantly change from lrpulsar to dual shotguns in a fight with someone, and the ability to instantly heal the same way. In addition I'd like to see a skill bar added that can be toggled on and off, that would make seeing your hotkeys and rearranging them, easier.

Perms: I know zone is probably set to reset in the future, but I remember that perm weapon events always drew a crowd. They stopped after awhile, but I remember them as very nostalgic events. I'd like to see them return as more than "Death-match for 30 Pipes!"...

Planets: Essentially they are what make zone, zone. But several of them are quite ugly and under-used. Remove several of them to keep the player-base together while it's small, and work them back in as the player-base grows.

Microphones:Moreso to stefan, I'd love to see the mic ability actually work for teams to communicate. It'd be ****ing hilarious.

Rank Ups: Other shooter do it, please follow suit. Design rank badges for every rank and designate them next to the players name. Just as well, add quite a few more ranks. It's boring to never rank up for longggggg periods at a time. Also, categorize more weapons that can only be used at certain ranks. I believe only a few melee weapons do this atm. I think this could also be a way to remove the gelet shop weapons and make them available at higher ranks, while limiting the rank trials may obtain, making them obtain gold for any hope to rank up enough to acquire the weapons. I believe GK does this essentially by cutting trials off at lvl 10. You often see GK players resubmitting just to get their levels back.

New UI: While the old UI is okay, a new one should be made to make it much easier to navigate. I currently mean the ui for the q menu and class select; but to be honest, zone uses quite to many of the easy to make ugly blue gui's.

Smaller Maps: Most of Zones maps are quite large in size. I believe zone could do with smaller, or rather medium maps: Like SoG used to have :P

Medics: Rework the aspect of playing medic. Medics should acquire the ability to revive others that die and are put on a revive timer. Would probably remove the death point from the players score.

Death: Rework death to include a respawn time. Have the player have a choice in spawning at the dropship after the small amount of time, or spawn at one of the currently controlled bases. Medics can revive players during this short period of time. ALSO during this time, the players screen will switch focus to follow the screen of the player that killed him. I did this in my old gun server so I know it's possible, and very cool :P...

Skill Points: Have players earn skill levels in different categories of weapons by using and killing with them more. These levels would provide more affinity for use with certain genres of the weapons. For example; Players apt in using machine guns would get 5% faster spinning up rate on all machine guns for each level gained in it. Up to, of course, a maximum level.

Sprinting: While tumbling with f can be used to move very quickly in a short amount of time, I'd like to see the same sort of effect by holding another key to use up energy to move at a slightly faster pace, while unable to fire, or use other actions (other than turning). Sprinting would also include a fun sound to indicate your running (symphonia used to have this and your player would sorta lean forward to sprint and go 'patpatpat') xD

Ammo: After the reset, return limited ammo and ammo storage upgrades back to the store. These were very nice to buy when you had to choose between an expensive new weapon, or slightly cheaper, upgrade to your ammo capacity (upgrades would be like +100 ammo capacity each, with something like 1000 being the max obtainable ammo capacity.)

Gelet Store: Follow the advice from the Rank up idea, and then follow Shadow's idea, and zodiacs path, and make potions available to upgrade certain aspects of playing for a time.

I could go on and on. :3
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:14 PM
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Skill Points: Have players earn skill levels in different categories of weapons by using and killing with them more. These levels would provide more affinity for use with certain genres of the weapons. For example; Players apt in using machine guns would get 5% faster spinning up rate on all machine guns for each level gained in it. Up to, of course, a maximum level.
Good ideas but this one caught my eye.
Not exactly in a good way.

See ive been playing zone for many many many years now.. And the best thing about it is , every things fair game. Unlike era or any other shooter on graal we always had Zone where the playing grounds where skills over weapons. And if we add points to give some a advantage that would kinda ruin how vintage the server is. Newbs use to love this server because no one had a advantage (only if you played long enough to have perms = fair) and everyday when we use to be trial and everything reset after you logged , zone would be the only server worth coming back to.
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:58 PM
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Good ideas but this one caught my eye.
Not exactly in a good way.

See ive been playing zone for many many many years now.. And the best thing about it is , every things fair game. Unlike era or any other shooter on graal we always had Zone where the playing grounds where skills over weapons. And if we add points to give some a advantage that would kinda ruin how vintage the server is. Newbs use to love this server because no one had a advantage (only if you played long enough to have perms = fair) and everyday when we use to be trial and everything reset after you logged , zone would be the only server worth coming back to.
whereas now you can throw some gelats at it and have better weapons than any newb. not to mention an additional 20 hp.

might be small but for a "everythings fair game" you shouldnt be able to throw some dosh at it to gain your advantages.
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Not exactly in a good way.

See ive been playing zone for many many many years now.. And the best thing about it is , every things fair game. Unlike era or any other shooter on graal we always had Zone where the playing grounds where skills over weapons. And if we add points to give some a advantage that would kinda ruin how vintage the server is. Newbs use to love this server because no one had a advantage (only if you played long enough to have perms = fair) and everyday when we use to be trial and everything reset after you logged , zone would be the only server worth coming back to.

i don't like the idea of skill points or w/e anyway, also how come you included the zombie thing in there ? ;o
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i don't like the idea of skill points or w/e anyway, also how come you included the zombie thing in there ? ;o
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whereas now you can throw some gelats at it and have better weapons than any newb. not to mention an additional 20 hp.

might be small but for a "everythings fair game" you shouldnt be able to throw some dosh at it to gain your advantages.
I think something needs to support the server as in gelats .
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:39 AM
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Holy hell thats alot of idea's ... But yeeah, cant say anything else than i agree.
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:41 PM
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some passive events would be cool.

like double exp weekends or triple bounty wednesdays (random)

would make more people play at certain times, could be fun.
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Remove the bounty cap or up it to 1k.
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Remove the bounty cap or up it to 1k.
why? it only caps from idling. and it only goes up on its own so you can gain ok exp even if the player hasent killed anyone.
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Congrats on becoming manager Tenchry, I hope you'll bring it to a better place.

Though I think the only real shift can be made is to move the server to the classic tab, which you unfortunately have no control over.
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No player should have an advantage over another because of money. Gralat weapons must either be available in the shop as well or completely removed.

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Bring back permanent items, remove the dumb monthly ****.

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Bring back permanent items, remove the dumb monthly ****.
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Probably gonna stay with Monthly sorry ;O
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Probably gonna stay with Monthly sorry ;O
keep monthly items if you must but bring back jetpack perms. we already have br and rr

also, ammo clips should be available in shop.
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Probably gonna stay with Monthly sorry ;O
Hey, it's not my loss.
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Hey, it's not my loss.
it's not like half the people did anything with perms, they just wanted a perm item so they can stop playing and say they have it in their collection.
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it's not like half the people did anything with perms, they just wanted a perm item so they can stop playing and say they have it in their collection.
What incentive do I have to log on, gain money, and buy an item knowing that I have to re-buy it next month?
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:36 AM
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it's not like half the people did anything with perms, they just wanted a perm item so they can stop playing and say they have it in their collection.
add some perms at higher prices then.

add back ammo clips.
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Completely agree. Really annoying. You bought it to use it and not to see it disappear 1 month later.
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Reasoning for monthly items = Money on zone will just build up too much like it already has if it's just perms in the shop. Also it's an incentive to play the game knowing you need to make money to get back a gun you wanna use
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Anyway if you want to say an idea for zone say it, that's basically what this thread is about, what will actually help zone?
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we're gonna try do some swapping with what's in the gelat shops, something that's not game breaking essentially, no guns, "hey i just started got photon trololol" etc, Maybe something as ingame boosts, not like performance, like exp/money, it's been said before.

I also had an idea about an event item shop, no major items in there, because you'd be winning them in the events itself, e.g. Event for RPs + 20 Event Points. Something like that. Doubt that idea will be implemented anytime soon due to the fact that's not going to help the server.
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so you're just gonna buy a perm and never play again? yeah pro
No, I'll buy a perm knowing that I don't need to re-buy it every month. That way I can look forward to buying a new weapon, rather than restocking the same select few over and over again.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:25 PM
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I played Zone long before you. Before it was even a gold server. Newb.
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if you wanna play that game then i win

anyway can we talk about ideas here not trolol i play longurrr
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Same.

Still played longer then him he just doesn't know this right here

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To keep people playing you need to add somethings that will reward people for the time they put in. Simple MMO elements like crafting, leveling and a pve element. It's a big ask though so I won't hold my breath.
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To keep people playing you need to add somethings that will reward people for the time they put in. Simple MMO elements like crafting, leveling and a pve element. It's a big ask though so I won't hold my breath.
I feel as if I should say something on this subject.

Creating PvE content with an reward system might as well be a big giant finger to the older/current players. Zone has always been a PvP only server and it's not that hard to come up with ideas to keep players playing, it's finding people willing to spend time in a server that's in a complete mess right now.

It's pretty well known I don't want Tenchry running Zone, but he does have some of Dans team which didn't do bad, just extremely heavy restrictions and being there at the wrong time and I do hope this he is the one that turns Zone into the right direction.

Zen has suggested unlockable attachments for using a weapon, I've suggest Bounty/EXP/Speed increases for the shop instead of what is on there currently as many others have came up with ideas of their own.

@Crono, Minimap on iricia has been back for awhile now :P
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