Windows 7 FPS Lag [Laptop]

[jkldogg]

On era whenever I check my lag (saying "showlag") My MS is always 60-200 and my FPS is like 9-15. So i'm wondering how I can increase my fps so I don't lag anymore?

I've come to notice that MS lag makes you lag bullets and FPS lag makes you walk slow. The ideal FPS is 20-23.

Any suggestions?

[Demisis_P2P]

Max FPS is 20. Don't know why it sometimes reports more for people.

For some reason my Graal runs faster if it's maximised than if I just manually stretch the window out to the size of my screen.
Also try disabling Lights, Particles and Weather.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Max FPS is 20. Don't know why it sometimes reports more for people.

For some reason my Graal runs faster if it's maximised than if I just manually stretch the window out to the size of my screen.
Also try disabling Lights, Particles and Weather.

The "max" is 20 but it's running every 0.05 seconds and it's not too precise so it's possible to get 21, although there's a glitch in the script which gives everyone an extra frame. It's possible to get to 22 though at times.

[jkldogg]

Lights, particles, and weather are disabled. My FPS is still low. I move slow at 19 FPS (it randomly jumps up and down). I'm only normal speed if my FPS is 20 or more.

[12171217]

Say "showscriptstats", press F2, click the scripts tab, and laugh at Chris Vimes.

And it's really of nobody's fault. Graal seems poorly optimized in the first place.

[Liberated]

Originally Posted by 12171217

Say "showscriptstats", press F2, click the scripts tab, and laugh at Chris Vimes.

And it's really of nobody's fault. Graal seems poorly optimized in the first place.

other then the movement system it doesn't seem to be that bad?

PHP Code:

1. 13.032161908 % Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 1.007264889 % Gani Player DrSteve
3. 0.644358431 % Weapon -GUI
4. 0.490042728 % Weapon -System
5. 0.362071157 % Weapon -Serverlist 


by #20 it's around 0.05%

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Liberated

other then the movement system it doesn't seem to be that bad?

PHP Code:

1. 13.032161908 % Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 1.007264889 % Gani Player DrSteve
3. 0.644358431 % Weapon -GUI
4. 0.490042728 % Weapon -System
5. 0.362071157 % Weapon -Serverlist 


by #20 it's around 0.05%

Strange. I wonder why the movement system is at 13%.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Crow

Strange. I wonder why the movement system is at 13%.

The movement system isn't, it's calling the nick system as well as some others and it gets thrown in since it's called in the onTimeOut function. If you call another function first or trigger the nick system, it's much lower (I've tried this on Era).

Also, CPU is relative to the computer/client, so you can't really compare numbers from other servers if they were taken using a different computer or client.

Top 50 of npcs taken most CPU time:
1. 3.157262172 % Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 0.506094261 % Weapon -Functions
3. 0.357946263 % Weapon TSAdmin/News GUI
4. 0.120031198 % Weapon -Messages
5. 0.052453222 % Weapon -GUI

(after running around unstick me for 60 seconds)

[Crow]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

it's calling the nick system

I know Wasn't aware that adds to the movement system though.

[knightfire35]

Era is the only server I have trouble with regarding lag.

It helps when I play in fullscreen, not sure why. Also, disable lights particles and weather if you haven't already.

[12171217]

The showscriptstats thing was a joke. And like I said; Graal is poorly optimized, and pretty dated.

[jkldogg]

So any suggestions to raise FPS?

[Catbert]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

So any suggestions to raise FPS?

Get a better computer? Seriously. I got my 8600gt video card removed and put it in for a 3200 and I still can run Graal smoothly. Why does everyone who plays Graal have a garbage PC? Is this why they play Graal?

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Catbert

Get a better computer? Seriously. I got my 8600gt video card removed and put it in for a 3200 and I still can run Graal smoothly. Why does everyone who plays Graal have a garbage PC? Is this why they play Graal?

Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

jkldogg: Try and update your computer's graphics drivers. Don't rely on Windows Update; get the drivers from the manufacturers website directly. Take a look at this thread: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61703

[Catbert]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

jkldogg: Try and update your computer's graphics drivers. Don't rely on Windows Update; get the drivers from the manufacturers website directly. Take a look at this thread: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61703

If he's whining about 15 fps, then it's probably not his computer. Just the game. Era always will lag you because of people spamming bullets and bombs

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

is there anything above turbo mode?

I don't understand this question.

Originally Posted by Catbert

Get a better computer? Seriously. I got my 8600gt video card removed and put it in for a 3200 and I still can run Graal smoothly. Why does everyone who plays Graal have a garbage PC? Is this why they play Graal?

Ty for the post that doesn't help.

Originally Posted by Skyld

Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

jkldogg: Try and update your computer's graphics drivers. Don't rely on Windows Update; get the drivers from the manufacturers website directly. Take a look at this thread: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61703

I'll do this and post again with the outcome.

[12171217]

Have you tried OpenGL mode?

Originally Posted by Skyld

Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

No, it runs awful on all hardware. o_o

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by 12171217

No, it runs awful on all hardware. o_o

Graal runs great on Macs, and by extension, iPhones.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by 12171217

No, it runs awful on all hardware. o_o

Graal also runs fine on Linux as well.

[Fulg0reSama]

13%? Even I think that's crazy. N-Pulse doesn't even have scripts that go 5%.

[12171217]

13% for a movement system is pretty exorbent, and Era's movement system is pretty meh, but for the sake of argument, let's all assume it handles various other functions besides movement in one WNPC.

And the percentages; surely they're more relative than we can simply compare one server to another, being tested by two different users on two different machines?

[Crow]

Originally Posted by 12171217

13% for a movement system is pretty exorbent, and Era's movement system is pretty meh, but for the sake of argument, let's all assume it handles various other functions besides movement in one WNPC.

It does. I'm just worried because I coded some of it. I must admit, though, that I do not know what was added since then. When I was stress testing it, I never got beyond 4%; neither did my test subjects.

[Dnegel]

Players on Era moves alot faster than other servers.

[jkldogg]

I'm confused.

Mine says

PHP Code:

Top 50 of npcs taken most CPU time:
1. 13.006578457 % Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 0.688944153 % Weapon -GUI
3. 0.614896074 % Weapon -System
4. 0.486855828 % Weapon -Messages
5. 0.39908425 % Weapon -ItemSystem
6. 0.372887071 % Weapon -Serverlist
7. 0.30785239 % Weapon -BulletSystem
8. 0.197128259 % Weapon -Knockout
9. 0.180282664 % Weapon -IRC_Installer
10. 0.174136497 % Weapon -MeleeSystem 


Any suggestions?

[Luda]

Have you tried UN too? Because I'm using W7 on a laptop also and I move slow as **** on Era & UN with lights, particle effects & weather disabled.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Luda

Have you tried UN too? Because I'm using W7 on a laptop also and I move slow as **** on Era & UN with lights, particle effects & weather disabled.

this doesn't actually disable any of those, all it does is set a boolean for scripters to check before setting lights/particles/weather

unfortunately, nobody really bothers to do so.

[Dnegel]

PHP Code:

Top 50 of npcs taken most CPU time:
1. 4.582867377 % Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 0.366516893 % Weapon -GUI
3. 0.306824976 % Weapon -BulletSystem
4. 0.300497047 % Weapon -System
5. 0.284207636 % Weapon -IRC_InstallerGUI
6. 0.238757406 % Weapon -Translation
7. 0.198054405 % Weapon -Serverlist
8. 0.195796264 % Weapon -Messages
9. 0.19442085 % Weapon -ItemSystem
10. 0.128211115 % Weapon -Functions 


Just because my broadband is gangsta.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Dnegel

network

[Dnegel]

Originally Posted by Crow

fix'd

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Dnegel

fix'd

Your connection has nothing to do with CPU usage in your client.

[salesman]

Era's movement system could use some serious optimization. Last I saw it there was a lot of redundancy in the onWall() checks which is probably what's causing the slowdown (srry i was 2 lazy 2 fix).

[jkldogg]

I also move slow on UN. Anyone have a fix / solution?

[knightfire35]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

I also move slow on UN. Anyone have a fix / solution?

Have you tried disabling the aero effects?

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by knightfire35

Have you tried disabling the aero effects?

Yeah, I have TuneUp utilities 2010, with the turbo mode the graphics scheme is set to classic windows. the lag doesn't change. :[

[Dnegel]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Your connection has nothing to do with CPU usage in your client.

I didn't know. (yo my CPU is crap btw)

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

Yeah, I have TuneUp utilities 2010, with the turbo mode the graphics scheme is set to classic windows. the lag doesn't change. :[

is there anything above turbo mode?

[jkldogg]

Would someone mind helping me rather than talking about random scripting gibberish?

[jkldogg]

bump

[jkldogg]

I updated the drivers and it's still laggy.

EDIT:

I'd be willing to give 15k on Era to whoever helps solve my lag issue.

Here are some of my system specs and you can post here or pm me on era if u need more information to help me.

System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Video Card: ATI Radeon Graphics HD 3200 Graphics
RAM: 4 Gigabytes
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-65 2.10 GHz

[krossi]

Can it be becouse of the internet connection?