Change the entire overworld into a battleground

[Cubical]

A few days ago I was in the arena when knockback was removed from spells. I had a blast PKing with other mages and melee players, it was probably the most fun I've had on GK in a very long time. As everyone knows PKing in a battleground and PKing on the overworld is entirely different. I wouldn't mind seeing the entire world turned into a battleground and have knockback removed from spells so we can't lame with things like paralyze and other cone spells. Of course the speed cap would have to be removed for it to reach its full potential. Shield Block and damage modifiers should stay the same and knockback removed from pretty much everything except monsters. Shield block would give mages a defense against taking damage from warriors and it would give warriors a way to stop mage bullets.

This would make PKing a viable option for all levels as well as giving people an actual chance to get a kill before someones at like 10 hp and runs inside. As it is right now everyone runs and it takes forever to kill anyone which makes attempting to PK anywhere else besides events and kingdom events kinda redundant unless you're laming trade or biling some poor noob that went bmode. I think it could help us have some epic battles if people were to die quicker and promote more PK. It would add a bit more strategy with shield block actually blocking.

If nothing else at least add shield block to normal PVP however I'd prefer everywhere be a battleground.

[DrkXFactr]

Shield blocking DOES sound good to me. I think it should be more useful than its current state.

Also, it sure does take forever to pk someone..

[ViperZakuto]

sounds interesting

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by DrkXFactr

Also, it sure does take forever to pk someone..

It doesn't in a battleground

[MajinDragon]

Very well thought out, i like this idea and fully support it. This would definitely sort out a very big problem with melee and that's damage and how it scales pvp wise. It seems that it's only worth while inside the arena's. Damage is actually much better scaled inside battleground arena's than in regular pvp, and that goes for magic as well, so mage's won't have the issues of magic resist scrolls rendering them useless, or mage vs mage battles being dreadfully tedious.

I would however suggest that new ways to scale magic dmg and resist are sorted out too, since this would effectively make any advancements in magic levels, useless as im pretty sure battleground magic dmg isn't level based or even resist based. Magic, and magic levels need to be made useful and not solely an SP waste.

[Tashkin]

I think it's a great idea. This would defiantly make pvp more enjoyable.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

as long as the retarded speed cap goes im for it

[ViperZakuto]

yes, and keep pmode. cause i don't like getting lamed with build director and (insert spell name here) lol

[Cubical]

bump bump bump

[MajinDragon]

Why isn't this being seriously considered?

[gravator]

The entire overworld is a battleground provided you are in battle mode, if you mean even if a person is on peaceful mode then no, the idea is not very good, as there are people that willingly attack low levels just because they can, and when requested to stop they give arrogant responses like "I don't listen to people that ask me to stop." or "I was PKed before so i'm a PKer now.", well that low level fella wasn't the one that was making trouble for you before, but you sure are making trouble for him now.


If you want a suggestion then make a third mode again, peaceful, with the reduced exp rates, battle, for those that enjoy Pking, and maybe kingdoms mode? you can only PK the enemy kingdom while in kingdom core, otherwise you're like on peaceful mode and can't harm/be harmed, maybe give the battle mode rates for exp also so those loyal to the kingdoms have a benefit without suffering being attacked on sight? Not everyone that goes into battle mode can 100% defend themselves from a determined PKer.

[MajinDragon]

I don't think you understood the suggestion Ironclad.

He's proposing that the current pvp system emulate the spar system in respects to how dmg is calculated so that fights aren't so dragged out. This would ofcourse solve issues of melee dmg inconsistency but highlight the issues of magic dmg concerning spells such as paralyze and fear.

[MajinDragon]

Seriously..

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Seriously..

/like

[Cubical]

I'm going to bump this again just because I still think this would resolve a lot of pvp issues if done correctly.


Edit: I still would like input on this I wasn't just bumping it to bring it to managements attention. I probably should have been more clear in my bump. There is a few kinks that would need to be worked out like probably removing knockback for spells and balancing magic a bit. It will give newer players a chance to PK with oldbies and not be at an insane gear disadvantage(although gear will still play a big part).

[Supaman771]

Do this.
K

[BigBear3]

why hasnt neeko posted!?!??!?!?!? BLASPHEMY

cubes @ ur idea i said this forever ago. do it up

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Pls do this and remove speed cap both in spar arena and on the overworld

[StormYs]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

I would however suggest that new ways to scale magic dmg and resist are sorted out too, since this would effectively make any advancements in magic levels, useless as im pretty sure battleground magic dmg isn't level based or even resist based. Magic, and magic levels need to be made useful and not solely an SP waste.

I agree on this idea, but before this gets implanted on a 1:1 scale I would suggest to first consider what Majin said.

Pking atm is way to hard.

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by StormYs

I agree on this idea, but before this gets implanted on a 1:1 scale I would suggest to first consider what Majin said.

Pking atm is way to hard.

Resist are not calculated in it the same way as they are currently but they could be easily to offset the issues with magic. Removing knockback for only magic would also resolve the issue. The only thing that causes the massive damage is getting knocked back repetitively into the spell. Either way there is a way to resolve the issue with OP spells.

[Conqueror]

I've always been 100% behind this idea and like others have said-- still wonder to this day why past management never took steps towards getting this done!

I think there have always been 3 main issues which have hindered PKing on Kingdoms.

1 - Duration of fight (Which would be mostly solved by Cubes' suggestion)

2 - The losing opponent being able to run into any NO-PK zone/building right before defeat. (Which is why I absolutely love Era's countdown method on recent engagement)

3 - The community is small, and close with one another. It's almost become offensive to start PKing someone who you talk with normally in the trade room. (Friends may be more likely to fight each other if some sort of reward system were put in place for PKing. Sparrer of the Month? Best PKer of the Month? This would give all players the same goal really, maybe fighting/killing each other wouldn't feel like total blasphemy anymore.)

[scriptless]

Originally Posted by Conqueror

(Which is why I absolutely love Era's countdown method on recent engagement)

That would be cool actually.

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by Conqueror

I've always been 100% behind this idea and like others have said-- still wonder to this day why past management never took steps towards getting this done!

I think there have always been 3 main issues which have hindered PKing on Kingdoms.

1 - Duration of fight (Which would be mostly solved by Cubes' suggestion)

2 - The losing opponent being able to run into any NO-PK zone/building right before defeat. (Which is why I absolutely love Era's countdown method on recent engagement)

3 - The community is small, and close with one another. It's almost become offensive to start PKing someone who you talk with normally in the trade room. (Friends may be more likely to fight each other if some sort of reward system were put in place for PKing. Sparrer of the Month? Best PKer of the Month? This would give all players the same goal really, maybe fighting/killing each other wouldn't feel like total blasphemy anymore.)

I like the ideas, we will look into that

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Conqueror

3 - The community is small, and close with one another. It's almost become offensive to start PKing someone who you talk with normally in the trade room. (Friends may be more likely to fight each other if some sort of reward system were put in place for PKing. Sparrer of the Month? Best PKer of the Month? This would give all players the same goal really, maybe fighting/killing each other wouldn't feel like total blasphemy anymore.)

Don't most servers have something like this? We could do 1v1 and 2v2. I don't believe it would be hard to plan with an active manager and events admin.