Thank you Tim

[FullMetalJacket]

For bringing back raiding with your new gang system. Can't wait for the release, hopefully the raiding keeps up. Your work is appreciated.

[Dragon551]

What's the new system?

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Its awesum.

[Cubical]

all guns are equally the same in gang levels except things like SD cannons, kinda lame but w/e

[papajchris]

Make love not war.

[jkldogg]

The new base is Avant v2, terribly huge map, with a mini-map. Going to be so funny to see people raiding in there. Tim literally took avant and made it promote even more running.

[Dragon551]

Just sounds like a few minor updates to the current gang system, not a whole new one.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

U rock tom

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

The new base is Avant v2, terribly huge map, with a mini-map. Going to be so funny to see people raiding in there. Tim literally took avant and made it promote even more running.

I think it was more annoying to chase someone between different levels and eventually losing him because of some sort of level transition lag... Or being door lamed.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

The new base is Avant v2, terribly huge map, with a mini-map. Going to be so funny to see people raiding in there. Tim literally took avant and made it promote even more running.

Actually, I updated it last night. It's no longer a gigantic gmap.

[Knightress]

You've put alot of thought into this and to me, you just listening to the players is the best thing by far... The changes last night I didn't like due to the same problems as before (Having to chase players through different lvls)... I really like the gmap base and have a feeling raiding will come back full-time and let's face it, we need more of it. The guns are an exceptional benefit to those holding the top 3 gangs of the week and I'm really hoping they can not be used while off tag lol All that I have seen of Dev and heard by friends I think this is the perfect addition to the concept on Dev and will be enjoyed by all!
Thanx Tim, it is appreciated!

[The_Federov]

Originally Posted by Dragon551

Just sounds like a few minor updates to the current gang system, not a whole new one.

The few minor updates made it so players raid, that's something your system couldn't accomplish in months of being out. Yes, Tim took your system and made it usable in a few days. I don't care how small his updates are, they fixed the game.

[Dragon551]

Originally Posted by The_Federov

The few minor updates made it so players raid, that's something your system couldn't accomplish in months of being out. Yes, Tim took your system and made it usable in a few days. I don't care how small his updates are, they fixed the game.

I wasn't really arguing that at all, "my" system is the same system in place now too. Remember when I released it? Raids everywhere, things happening, etc, etc. It's just going to be a repeat of that, the old gang system had gang guns and gang houses and players still complained about lack of raids.

[FullMetalJacket]

And your solution was to remove everything that players liked about raiding and leave us with an unfinished gang system?

[Dragon551]

Originally Posted by FullMetalJacket

And your solution was to remove everything that players liked about raiding and leave us with an unfinished gang system?

Solution to what, the old gang system? The solution was what you guys wanted, but like I said before, everyone began to complain eventually.

But what was removed? Gang guns and gang houses belonging to specific gangs? From what I recall, everyone was tired of that and relied on gang events for entertainment.

Also, the gang system, or "gang shop" that you were all waiting for, was finished on Era Dev. That can be uploaded to main whenever, I never uploaded it during my term because I had a plan for all of that, which I'm sure many of you already know and are tired of hearing.