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Old 07-22-2008, 03:00 AM
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:03 AM
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@dusty: That's fine if you don't like it. But, what's not fine is bashing it just because you don't like it. I'm not speaking directly to you (because you haven't downright bashed the idea), but I haven't seen very much "this is neat, I'll utilize this" or "not my cup o' tea, but others might like it. Thanks for adding this feature". I've seen "wow this is stupid. unixmad is stupid. darlene is stupid. blogs on forums? what a stupid idea.".
No one is really obligated to thank them though... this is a business first, and with a business you have unhappy customers. It goes with it... they have to be able to deal with it, not just delete what they don't like.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:42 AM
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No one is really obligated to thank them though... this is a business first, and with a business you have unhappy customers. It goes with it... they have to be able to deal with it, not just delete what they don't like.
You're absolutely right. Nobody is obligated to thank them. It would be nice, though, to acknowledge that you appreciate them doing something nice like that, especially when they did not have to add any new features. It doesn't matter if you like the feature or not. For example: I don't like how Graal5 replaces all previous Graal versions, but I do like that they released Graal5 and the many updates that came with it.

People always fall in to this friendly-unfriendly dichotomy. The customers want "user-friendly service", but they insult the owners while asking for it. It's extremely immature and shows very bad character.

[Again, I'm not speaking solely to you, Dusty.]
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:55 AM
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then forget it.
Suit yourself. I am sure quite a few people will be able to use them appropriately. It's not really hard.

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I couldn't agree more.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:02 AM
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I can see this working well for graal-related blogging. Can post server development news, personal development or perhaps ideas/concepts and the like. If you want to have a whingefest, go to an actual blogging place. If you're not going to use it then whatever. Just don't ***** about the people who have to moderate it
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:50 AM
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You are all forgeting that if Forums are free it's mostly because Darlene have supported this idea for long time, also if forums was not moderated like it is by Darlene and Sam i will never have accepted to get more people on them.

So stop your complain about the forum administration team because they are here and will stay and making hundred of threads or messages will not change my decision. So deal with them or leave forums.

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As far as I see it, Unixmad is rarely on the forum so he has Darlene to enforce rules. And even when he is on the forum its only for Graal announcements and such and never really to communicate (beyond those announcements). So things like complaints about Darlene just die somewhere.
I would be honestly surprised if we weren't allowed to discuss this.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:57 AM
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You are all forgeting that if Forums are free it's mostly because Darlene have supported this idea for long time, also if forums was not moderated like it is by Darlene and Sam i will never have accepted to get more people on them.

So stop your complain about the forum administration team because they are here and will stay and making hundred of threads or messages will not change my decision. So deal with them or leave forums.
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I agree. I like that you set the forums free. You could just take that back in a second. So people should be happy about this.
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:39 PM
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:27 PM
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You are all forgeting that if Forums are free it's mostly because Darlene have supported this idea for long time
Many people have been saying make them free, not just Darlene. You just chose to listen to Darlene.

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So deal with them or leave forums.
Great way to lead a business. I see how you managed to turn Graal into a multi-billion dollar business now.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:52 PM
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:17 PM
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Many people have been saying make them free, not just Darlene. You just chose to listen to Darlene.
But I kept bugging him because the members wanted it...that's the point. He didn't say I was the only one, because I obviously was not.
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:17 PM
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But I kept bugging him because the members wanted it...that's the point.
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:19 PM
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But I kept bugging him because the members wanted it...that's the point. He didn't say I was the only one, because I obviously was not.
We all kept repeating it... he just doesn't listen to us. I guess that's okay... 'cause I mean... we're nobodies, right?
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