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[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Googi

It's still cheaper than a console game.

Not even close to the same quality, however. You pay a price expecting something of equal quality or value, I doubt any customer at the current targeted age range could afford that much for such a bad state, or would even want to for that matter.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Darklux

Nope its about 37 Dollars atm.. the problem is likely the current american recession and the low dollar.

But look at it from the european side:
We had to pay 60€ for half a year server hosting, while you had to pay 60$, which currently converts to about 40€ => a difference of 20€!

So all the time with the weak dollar we had to pay 20€ more, then you had to pay for it :O

My mistake. I usually have to pay through paybycash due to lack of paypal. So its actually 26.79 euro for their services plus the account charge which converts to around 42. Yeah yeah i know all about the american dollar going a bit down in value but the price now is ridiculous. im not paying 42 dollars to have 8 months of UC play.

[Horrified]

Microsoft uses MS Points, Graal uses Gelats. Confusion? No. It's a way to avoid having to separate between pricing for everything.

You guys complain about stuff too much.

[MysticX2X]

Have you read the thread? They increased the prices with even less time.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Not even close to the same quality, however. You pay a price expecting something of equal quality or value, I doubt any customer at the current targeted age range could afford that much for such a bad state, or would even want to for that matter.

A console game is pretty good if you get 40 hours out of it. You easily get more than that out of Graal.

Originally Posted by Horrified

Microsoft uses MS Points, Graal uses Gelats. Confusion? No. It's a way to avoid having to separate between pricing for everything.

You guys complain about stuff too much.

It is more confusing than just selling subscriptions, and is clearly going to alienate new players seeing as even some old players aren't able to understand it.

[Admins]

The Gelats+Subscription thing can be confusing although it makes things much more flexible. The prices are not really higher, it's less expensive for european people who bought gold bundle, its more expensive for US people who only bought one server before. Basicly we now bind prices to euro (which increases prices by 55 percent), and give you gold bundle in exchange. Also you get the starter packs and a much more flexible subscription system.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Basicly we now bind prices to euro (which increases prices by 55 percent), and give you gold bundle in exchange

We don't want a gold bundle ...

I don't want to pay to have access to Zone, GK, or Classic.

I don't play Zone, there's no way I would have upgraded for GK, and I already have lifetime classic.

All I want is a UC subscription, or whatever it's called now.

I should NOT have to pay for a classic subscription, having already purchased a lifetime one, and I don't WANT to pay for Zone or GK.

This helps you make money; it does not help the players at all. In fact, it will probably make some of them not upgrade, including me.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by Googi

It's still cheaper than a console game.

I pay anywhere from $6-$30 for my ps2 games.

Yeah I can see some repeat customers turned off by this. It will end up being accepted in due time.

[Mafukie]

wheat is more expensive, so bread is more expensive. so they gotta push that cost on to us. I'm just waiting for some kind of quality content server to be released that is official for me to pay a monthly fee. I've gotten my money out of Graal no doubt and I'll continue to be a supporter. But we need some quality official servers with questing, crafting, dungeons, ect. But with a more modern / clean graphics. GK is rather ugly IMO, I'm sure its due for a total facelift

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I pay anywhere from $6-$30 for my ps2 games.

Why not bring up Virtual Console, Live Arcarde, WiiWare, etc. too? You know I was talking about the rule, not the exceptions.

[Admins]

Yes need to increase the quality of Graal in general and also help Playerworlds more

[Shakram]

development should be for free =/
i understand that the people have to pay for the servers but why have people to pay if they want to work on a server ...
if development servers would be free for staff and you can even develop with a new account without subscription graal would be much better :O
there are a lot of talented people (graphic artists , scripters...) who could help graal to become a very good mmo but i understand if they dont want to pay to help a mmo to become better ...

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Shakram

development should be for free

We are thinking of adding ways that staff get some percentage of gelats made with server items, that way you could at least pay you own subscription or even development servers.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Googi

A console game is pretty good if you get 40 hours out of it. You easily get more than that out of Graal.

The amount of time you get out of a game does not usually constitute as a reason for high pricing alone. Not one current server provides 40 hours of gameplay anyway other than Zodiac, unless you include idling a form of gameplay, which can be done on most console games anyway.

Originally Posted by Stefan

We are thinking of adding ways that staff get some percentage of gelats made with server items, that way you could at least pay you own subscription or even development servers.

This is a huge can of worms. Who would be put in charge of the distribution of gelats, the local managers? I can hear it now..

"..but a manager doesn't do anything, we do more work than him how can he decide on who gets gelats!"
"He isn't pulling his weight, but he's the manager's favorite, so he's getting more gelats"
"You've just done half of the overworld? Great, but _____ did a couple of new weapons which are more important."
"Let's make some new pointless staff teams so our friends can get in on the pay!"
"FAQs and GPs barely do anything, why are they paid staff when developers are expected to spend their time developing while all they have to do is an easy job for an easy ride?"

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

This is a huge can of worms. Who would be put in charge of the distribution of gelats, the local managers? I can hear it now..

Maybe there should be a new global team dedicated to doing this. Personally I think they should have an Accounts Team of a few people who are in charge of passwords/accounts and distribution of gelats, etc.