Business update proposals.

[shrimps]

Stopped reading after a while, but PT started suffering when Grenades were added to Gp and AM. yeah. Frags ftl.

[ooger]

This is a complex scenario that I don't think the same 5 people arguing will find a solution to. Maybe open an in game poll with write in answers?

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

And how do you know they aren't rich? They have a guaranteed income each week and if you buff it, they'll soon have an endless supply of money.

What would i be jealous over? When are you going to start acting your age and realize that i couldn't care less about having everything or nothing. I've owned several businesses. One that i paid $1.8m for and give it away for free the next day, so don't sit here and preach to me that i am jealous over having a business when you know absolutely nothing about me.

Why would you be pretty sure i am fairly rich? Again you're making assumptions you know nothing about. You buff businesses, owners get richer. It's pretty much common sense, no?

Making them NPC owned you can do a lot more with them than you can when they're player owned. Again, common sense.

Start sticking to the subject and stop trying to look for things to insult me with.

Over & out.

If I remember correctly, you bought the business with no competition and sold it the next day to Dunez I can't remember what he told me he paid in return but I remember he told me he bought it from you and wanted to try sell it to me, I rightfully declined.

Also; I don't consider myself rich with this new economy system and all I really care about is paying my customers more money for their hard work.

Right now; An employee in my business stocked for 4 hours, he managed to fully stock (1 item) on his own and got the other (3 items) to 1k stocks each.

All I am paying him is; $12,432, That's the problem I have.

If he was to have trash picked for just as long, I could see him walking away with $350,000 +

I literally at the end of each week only walk away with 25% of the profits when I could walk away with 75% and that's a choice I have made because I don't care about how much money I make, I care about how much money my business and employees make.

I want things to be raised in price slightly, I want things to be simpler, I want things to be faster and I want things to be worth their time, that's the only way that we can guarantee that businesses will continue to be bought out and they will actually get stocked without some amazing employee like I managed to hire.

[Eclipse]

Make all food places NPC run, simple as that.
saying that people didn't view food stores as businesses because they were NPC stocked is stupid.

[bradigger]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

And how do you know they aren't rich? They have a guaranteed income each week and if you buff it, they'll soon have an endless supply of money.

What would i be jealous over? When are you going to start acting your age and realize that i couldn't care less about having everything or nothing. I've owned several businesses. One that i paid $1.8m for and give it away for free the next day, so don't sit here and preach to me that i am jealous over having a business when you know absolutely nothing about me.

Why would you be pretty sure i am fairly rich? Again you're making assumptions you know nothing about. You buff businesses, owners get richer. It's pretty much common sense, no?

Making them NPC owned you can do a lot more with them than you can when they're player owned. Again, common sense.

Start sticking to the subject and stop trying to look for things to insult me with.

Over & out.

I'm not asking businesses to be buffed. I'm saying most of the enjoyment I currently get out of Era is from working at PyroTech and Ammo Mart. I do not want them to be made NPC-owned. If this happens I WILL quit. I don't care if they're buffed or not. I like them how they are now.

[Godzilla]

Since a lot of players can't access there forums account, I'm going to start posting some replies from my mass messages about it from players.

-Cody Bravos (Thu Dec 18 12:06:17 2014):
+1 like your opinion about bussiness! i used to work for moon wok i just gain 4k week stocking 7000-10000 cookies that suck i was happy cuz i help a lot to the boss but dam just 4k for that hard work 24/7 stocking

[xAndrewx]

If I was in management I'd make it NPC ran and focus on more content to the game... no offense

Who wants to play a game grabbing a silly machine...

[bradigger]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

Since a lot of players can't access there forums account, I'm going to start posting some replies from my mass messages about it from players.

-Cody Bravos (Thu Dec 18 12:06:17 2014):
+1 like your opinion about bussiness! i used to work for moon wok i just gain 4k week stocking 7000-10000 cookies that suck i was happy cuz i help a lot to the boss but dam just 4k for that hard work 24/7 stocking

Your forum account is the same as your Graal account. I don't believe that someone can't access theirs if they're able to log in to the game.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

If I was in management I'd make it NPC ran and focus on more content to the game... no offense

Who wants to play a game grabbing a silly machine...

I do. Please don't push your beliefs on to others. I don't even know why people who don't work at businesses are discussing this. You're truly trying to take away money and purpose from other people.

[ooger]

There are a few steps you have to take in order to get onto the forums and they're not made very clear. Also, ice your butt man nobody is saying what's going to happen they're just saying what they think is best. Things have changed a lot in the past 2 years. 0.05 freeze, instant gang raiding, 4 gangs to unlimited gangs to 3gangs+ep to any combination of both, trash picking got a massive update, fishing was introduced, and the only thing major to happen to businesses was Era Hotel was made NPC owned. Businesses are not running well because there is little to no incentive to work at a business unless you really love it. Brainstorm solutions instead of getting upset.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

If I was in management I'd make it NPC ran and focus on more content to the game... no offense

Who wants to play a game grabbing a silly machine...

That's pretty much the plan.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

And how do you know they aren't rich?

PT owner here hi.
Current Bank account sits at 782k plus change. This is after owning PT for months and also selling a good number of my old guns because what use have I for them?
I don't buy things that aren't minerals, so idk if I'd call myself rich. Certainly not broke, but probably not even in the top 20 richest anymore.

The profit margin for PT has not changed since the economy boost. I still make the same amount (30-60k/week before i do bonuses and w/e) of profit per week, in a game where 30-60k means so much less now. I assume the other businesses function much the same way -- prices of minerals were increased, so stocks created per mineral were also increased. Since prices were left alone, nothing really changed.

I don't care if anything is done about businesses, so pleeeeease maybe pick someone else's character to pick apart and harrass ok. I'd like to see more money coming in, but I would have liked to see that before the economy shifted, too. Don't really count myself as an objective opinion on this one.

Originally Posted by Godzilla

I see PT bought out all the time, I don't think they're having much trouble selling bombs.
The focus I would have is that; Places get bought out in a second when it takes hours and hours of stocking to get little payment reward because the cost of items is so low.

We seem to be doing more in sales than before economy change, I wouldn't say there's a problem with business. I do fear that because bomb prices are so low and money is easy to obtain, people will stock up heavily on bombs and then not need them for a long time, leading to horrible profit on weeks in the future. But I suppose the net money earned is still the same at that point so mehhhhh.

At least at my business, each stock now stocks 3 of every item instead of 1 (and workers are paid for 3), so their money/work ratio was essentially tripled after economy change. IDK how that compares to other jobs like trash picking, but at least it's something

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

That's pretty much the plan.

This is why I like you

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by bradigger

Your forum account is the same as your Graal account. I don't believe that someone can't access theirs if they're able to log in to the game.



I do. Please don't push your beliefs on to others. I don't even know why people who don't work at businesses are discussing this. You're truly trying to take away money and purpose from other people.

Take away money? From who?? I've learned from this thread that jobs don't pay HALF as much as an NPC job on Era. You even said it yourself

Originally Posted by bradigger

This sums up my own opinion pretty well. I'm a Manager at PyroTech and an Assistant Manager at Ammo Mart. I have a great deal of fun at both jobs doing stocking and mining. The pay is not as good as trash picking, but I think it's more fun than trash picking. Someone bought all the ammo at Ammo Mart 2-3 times yesterday. I ended up stocking it all myself while watching a bunch of anime. It was pretty nice.

Making the food businesses NPC-owned sounds like a good idea. I think stocking at food places is a real pain compared to the stocking method at other places (where you can just press A repeatedly), and the pay is WORSE for some reason.

tl;dr Please leave PT/AM/GP the way they are, feel free to make food businesses NPC-owned.

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

If I was in management I'd make it NPC ran and focus on more content to the game... no offense

Who wants to play a game grabbing a silly machine...

Taking away yet another aspect of the game to cater to those who really don't care because they're too busy shooting others isn't a solution.

You're basically saying; Hey, you play this game because of this but we want you to play because of this so we're going to take away this and expect you to keep playing.

You have players that play because of something, is that not enough on a game that was struggling to hit 80 no longer than a couple of months ago?

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

Taking away yet another aspect of the game to cater to those who really don't care because they're too busy shooting others isn't a solution.

You're basically saying; Hey, you play this game because of this but we want you to play because of this so we're going to take away this and expect you to keep playing.

You have players that play because of something, is that not enough on a game that was struggling to hit 80 no longer than a couple of months ago?

Mate, do you need a link to habbo hotel?