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Old 07-14-2011, 09:52 PM
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@Luda: Hmmm may be it has a problem with the font on your PC, not sure why though.
Damn two people have suggested that to me and I've double checked, I have Tempus Sans ITC. The font works on the PC client just fine.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:58 PM
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@Luda: Hmmm may be it has a problem with the font on your PC, not sure why though.
Stefan, please read my forum pm. the VIP account system deleted my ipod account, if I hit don't use VIP account it sends me to an account with nothing on it.(no gralats,hats,items,anything) my email for VIP is [email protected]
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:10 PM
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i kinda wanna buy VIP, but I'm not going to, because I'm afraid my account will be deleted.

I like the levels on the server, and I like how the cliffs were fixed. Looks good
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:12 PM
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I'm also afraid of the account deletion issues. My friend got a new account after purchasing VIP and got half his things deleted on his original one. I don't want that to happen to me.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:34 PM
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i kinda wanna buy VIP, but I'm not going to, because I'm afraid my account will be deleted.

I like the levels on the server, and I like how the cliffs were fixed. I just don't like that content is being taken from servers and being stapled to the server... It's not fair. Some people who do have what it takes spend time and energy creating these things, and then you just snatch it. :cry;
The tiles were made by Dusty and are in the free-to-use thread on the forums. I don't think he cares.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:59 PM
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Well nice job Dusty
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:03 PM
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The tiles were made by Dusty and are in the free-to-use thread on the forums. I don't think he cares.
I can has royalty cheque plz.
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:35 PM
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:42 PM
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:08 AM
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Dusty should get something out of this. I mean...he only made your tileset thats used on multiple servers seen by thousands of people a day...no big deal.

Although, really...they will probably just offer him gralats or something like that...don't know if its worth it.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:32 AM
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Dusty should get something out of this. I mean...he only made your tileset thats used on multiple servers seen by thousands of people a day...no big deal.

Although, really...they will probably just offer him gralats or something like that...don't know if its worth it.
When you make things available for free and don't attach any kind of license to it you shouldn't be surprised or expect any kind of reimbursement for your work when it actually gets used.

Not saying I don't think he shouldn't get some sort of thanks for what he did but it's a little late now to start asking for checks.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:36 AM
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When you make things available for free and don't attach any kind of license to it you shouldn't be surprised or expect any kind of reimbursement for your work when it actually gets used.
How about we start licensing things as Creative Common's BY-NC-SA?
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:38 AM
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:45 AM
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How about we start licensing things as Creative Common's BY-NC-SA?
Then we could surely raise a fit when Eurocenter decides to use our licensed work. (:

The last thing Graal needs is licensing drama though.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:12 AM
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Indeed.

But, a general shift in atmosphere to something more pleasant would really be welcome at this point. Licensing might be one piece of that puzzle, maybe not.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:56 AM
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Normally we have asked the people who made the graphics, we have also remade some graphics on request (the trees).

About the VIP accounts: right now we have 1795 VIP accounts. In 11 cases some items or onlinetime were lost, we will restore them tomorrow. Sorry for the problems.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:56 AM
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Can you enable pasting into text boxes? Having to type out long-ass shield filenames (lol I originally typed codes..) when setting shields and stuff isn't fun.
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:49 PM
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:14 PM
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I just got a wonderful idea, to integrate PC, Facebook, and iPhone clients.

I dunno if you guys think it's a good idea, but maybe Thor's Classic server could be integrated into the Facebook/iDevice Servermap under the name of PC Classic, or Graal Adventure or something like that.

It would be a win-win situation.
Newbies on iPhone and Facebook would understand what Graal is supposed to be truly like, and experience a rich production (What Thor wants).
Unixmad and co. would get money by people paying for VIP/Gold so they can access the server without the severley limited Trial 5 hour limit on PC or no access at all on Facebook/iDevice without VIP.
Would I pay 3$ to access Thor's Classic with about 100+ people on my iPhone? Yes.

I simply think they should scrap Gold and implement the gralat/VIP system into PC, so all the clients can be interconnected.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:25 PM
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I just got a wonderful idea, to integrate PC, Facebook, and iPhone clients.

I dunno if you guys think it's a good idea, but maybe Thor's Classic server could be integrated into the Facebook/iDevice Servermap under the name of PC Classic, or Graal Adventure or something like that.

It would be a win-win situation.
Newbies on iPhone and Facebook would understand what Graal is supposed to be truly like, and experience a rich production (What Thor wants).
Unixmad and co. would get money by people paying for VIP/Gold so they can access the server without the severley limited Trial 5 hour limit on PC or no access at all on Facebook/iDevice without VIP.
Would I pay 3$ to access Thor's Classic with about 100+ people on my iPhone? Yes.

I simply think they should scrap Gold and implement the gralat/VIP system into PC, so all the clients can be interconnected.
I would rather not be associated with those versions of Classic, it's not even worth explaining how or why they are so different, they simply were never meant to be similar.
But even if that was to happen Classic's systems are entirely scripted rather than built-in, it would probably fry an iPhone.
Facebook however is a good possibility to aim for as Graal the Adventure.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:36 PM
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I would rather not be associated with those versions of Classic, it's not even worth explaining how or why they are so different, they simply were never meant to be similar.
But even if that was to happen Classic's systems are entirely scripted rather than built-in, it would probably fry an iPhone.
Facebook however is a good possibility to aim for as Graal the Adventure.
Meh that's true about the iPhone, but I really want your server to get popular so it has players to play the card game with and spar.
I'm sure facebook players would enjoy Graal the Adventure because of all the cool features on it, and real quests
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:14 PM
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:40 AM
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A bug I noticed is that guild houses don't work on the facebook server. At least transferred guild houses from an iPod account don't. Also have you considered disabling pausing on the server from users playing with their PCs? It's a little irritating when invading players pause while trying to take over your tower preventing you from killing them. It is albeit a very minor thing.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:35 AM
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A bug I noticed is that guild houses don't work on the facebook server. At least transferred guild houses from an iPod account don't. Also have you considered disabling pausing on the server from users playing with their PCs? It's a little irritating when invading players pause while trying to take over your tower preventing you from killing them. It is albeit a very minor thing.
haha I had fun with that. I stood in a pk area and said "kill me for 9999999 gralats and an admin ticket" and so many people tried to kill me XD
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:09 AM
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:02 AM
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I was sparring on Classic Facebook for a couple of hours and bought the character customization package. I decided to buy the VIP subscription, logged onto Classic iPhone and none of my stats/hours/guilds transferred. I also lost my character customization. I was under the impression that when i bought the VIP subscription, my stats/hours/guilds from Classic Facebook would then be transferred to my VIP account. Will you transfer my stats/hours/guilds/char. customization package to my VIP account?

Forum PM me for my email that's set on my VIP subscription
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:51 AM
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If you buy VIP directly on the login server then it's not transferring stuff, but you can login without VIP to the server and then login to the account and it will transfer. We are working on improving this.

About guild houses: you have separate houses on Classic iPhone and Classic Facebook, you will need to create a new one on the Facebook server (free).

Update for Internet Explorer: the tab-key is no longer tabbing the address bar or so, you can use it for chatting inside Graal Shortcuts for emoticons still don't work (Ctrl+S etc.), for that you will need to use Safari, Chrome, Firefox or Opera. Since there are no keys on iPhone & Co either you can however show emoticons by typing text, e.g. : ) : ; : p etc.

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Old 07-15-2011, 05:24 PM
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If you buy VIP directly on the login server then it's not transferring stuff, but you can login without VIP to the server and then login to the account and it will transfer. We are working on improving this.

About guild houses: you have separate houses on Classic iPhone and Classic Facebook, you will need to create a new one on the Facebook server (free).

Update for Internet Explorer: the tab-key is no longer tabbing the address bar or so, you can use it for chatting inside Graal Shortcuts for emoticons still don't work (Ctrl+S etc.), for that you will need to use Safari, Chrome, Firefox or Opera. Since there are no keys on iPhone & Co either you can however show emoticons by typing text, e.g. : ) : ; : p etc.
Yes but everytime I create a guild house on the Facebook server, it will say I've entered when I really have not. In addition it will keep asking me to create a new guild house. Also is it just me or has pause been removed? Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 07-15-2011, 06:37 PM
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I had a question regarding the VIP.
I purchased the VIP package today and my account "reset" per say. I started over.
If for some reason I do not want to keep the VIP package after my month is over, will my account reset again or will I still have everything just can not access the VIP features?

Also is there a way to save your location when you log back on?

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Old 07-15-2011, 11:05 PM
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Old 07-16-2011, 01:09 AM
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Stefan, do you mind if you make Q a shortcut to your character's inventory on Classic Facebook? Same with M for map. It would help alot with accessing my inventory to change my item hotkeys, and accessing the map.

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Stefan, do you mind if you make Q a shortcut to your character's inventory on Classic Facebook? Same with M for map. It would help alot with accessing my inventory to change my item hotkeys, and accessing the map.
You mean Q for opening the player profile (because you have two shortcuts so you still need to click on the right icon) ? That and M should be easy to add.

About the spar: looks kindof strange, looks like the GraalControl has been resized, will check it soon.
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