Catastrophic Suggestion, Perhaps

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[jkool666]

Originally Posted by WaDaFack

Removing the weaps is a stupid idea, your just deleting all the stuff staff worked hard on.

They didn't work that hard on it is the problem, other then the GFX. Theres no balance at all in the weapon system on Zone. Currently 8/10 (approx) of the weapons are rendered useless on the ex-most popular planet, Iricia.
Classes are also useless in many more cases then they could be.

How knowledged are you in the weapons on Zone now vs before the introduction to several of the weapons listed? Have you experienced the gameplay with these weapons recently?

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Having an expanded arsenal isn't always for the best. Just look at what it did to Era.

And Zone...

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by WaDaFack

Removing the weaps is a stupid idea, your just deleting all the stuff staff worked hard on.

Hey. If Jkool posted every zone weapon script of the new weapons, they would be identical. With a few different classes (ammo types, clip sizes, energy usage) and all that.

[12171217]

Originally Posted by Nightmare

Hey. If Jkool posted every zone weapon script of the new weapons, they would be identical. With a few different classes (ammo types, clip sizes, energy usage) and all that.

Where's the love for the artists?

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by jkool666

-How often do you currently play Zone now, would losing certain items and statistics really bother you? If you don’t play (which no one really does anymore) I can’t see why they would

A player-reset on a server that has no players doesn't do much harm. Especially if your willing to offer the players your resetting new mixed with old, fun, balanced gameplay.

^ Answer/argue please.

I'd rather not reset the server unless some drastic changes are going to be made that requires a server reset. I mean reseting the server just so players can work/lame their way back up to the top, making them so easily #1 while deleting all the oldbie's statistics seems pretty shtty to me.

Originally Posted by darksage15

1. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2. All you did was base lame

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Have you got any idea hard 900 hours straight laming is ?

Originally Posted by darksage15

It's not hard, just boring. And you don't deserve it when all you do is buy gelats and lame new kids.

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Anyway, I dont care what you think, I still kick your ass also without laming.

Stupid arguments like this killed Zone. Every once in a while was okay, but it exceeded the limits.

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Having an expanded arsenal isn't always for the best. Just look at what it did to Era.

Yeah . I liked it when Era first came back from a reset, and only guns were Ak, and Uzi.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Have you got any idea hard 900 hours straight laming is ?

Thats 300 Hours of laming, 600 Hours of afking.

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

Hey, Watch out. Nothing is wrong with dutchies >:]

Which is why you dont play zone anymore

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Nightmare

Thats 300 Hours of laming, 600 Hours of afking.

Which is why you dont play zone anymore

Zone's died, and yet you slow in the head people continuously argue over stupid matters like that.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by seanthien

I'd rather not reset the server unless some drastic changes are going to be made that requires a server reset.

Thats why I posted the "Server Reset" at the bottom of my post, below all of the drastic changes that I want to see made.

Originally Posted by seanthien

I mean reseting the server just so players can work/lame their way back up to the top,

Thats not the reason for the reset, I think you need to re-read my posts over again.

[Scary_Sock]

Hmm...
I really hate the "Zone is dead" posts guys. Seriously, stop posting that.

[Jcs1919]

Remove all heals and make beds..., Remove Jetpack too

I'm not playing zone because there is too many healers, runners, cheaters

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Jcs1919

Remove all heals and make beds..., Remove Jetpack too

I'm not playing zone because there is too many healers, runners, cheaters

All healing items and such will be removed once the shielding system is implemented.

[Jcs1919]

Originally Posted by Gambet

All healing items and such will be removed once the shielding system is implemented.

OMG, that's really cool !

[Scary_Sock]

Originally Posted by Gambet

All healing items and such will be removed once the shielding system is implemented.

What an awesome day that will be!

[seanthien]

Thats why I posted the "Server Reset" at the bottom of my post, below all of the drastic changes that I want to see made.

Oh and by reading the following I'm suppose to realize you meant you wanted everything else to happen first, right? Isn't it common sense to reset a server when huge updates that would forever change the gameplay to reset it?

To begin, I’m jkool666. Don’t bother posting if your not going to read my entire post. I also apologize if I act like a “know it all” anywhere, I’m just giving my opinion.

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Thats not the reason for the reset, I think you need to re-read my posts over again.

A player-reset on a server that has no players doesn't do much harm. Especially if your willing to offer the players your resetting new mixed with old, fun, balanced gameplay.

What am I suppose to get other than that from this?

Originally Posted by Scary_Sock

Hmm...
I really hate the "Zone is dead" posts guys. Seriously, stop posting that.

How about "Zone's now a failure non-profit server that averages 5 players daily and at peek-times maybe 10 that most likely 30 percent of them don't even play the game itself".

[Fury]

Originally Posted by Jcs1919

Remove all heals and make beds..., Remove Jetpack too

I'm not playing zone because there is too many healers, runners, cheaters

so if i get shot like 40 times, i can go to sleep and wake upwith no wounds? eranewbie.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Isn't it common sense to reset a server when huge updates that would forever change the gameplay to reset it?

Yes it is, but a lot of people seem to think otherwise.

Originally Posted by seanthien

I mean reseting the server just so players can work/lame their way back up to the top,

I guess I just thought it was more obvious I wanted things done to the server prior to the reset. Not "just so players can work/lame their way back up to the top," ya know?

[RebelArbiter]

I can honestly say if I came on zone and all of my stuff was gone it would be the last time I logged in there.

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by RebelArbiter

I can honestly say if I came on zone and all of my stuff was gone it would be the last time I logged in there.

Are you still 11, or have you aged?

Anyways, I agree that something drastic must occur. Zone has been in this rut for awhile, now, and a reset might be a valid option -- working with a clean slate is much easier than working with a congested (Mucinex) one.

[RebelArbiter]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Are you still 11, or have you aged?

No I have aged but if I lose all my items and the server is still terrible I won't be going back on.

[Jcs1919]

Originally Posted by Fury

so if i get shot like 40 times, i can go to sleep and wake upwith no wounds? eranewbie.

, Make bed heal slowly, and only in their base
zonenewbie.

[Aldaris]

Instead of a bed, for those of you who have played "B.O.B." for the Sega Genesis, maybe that style of healing could be implemented.

For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, it's basically a charge station that connects to your nerves and heals you gradually.

[Scary_Sock]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Instead of a bed, for those of you who have played "B.O.B." for the Sega Genesis, maybe that style of healing could be implemented.

For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, it's basically a charge station that connects to your nerves and heals you gradually.

Pretty swell idea.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by RebelArbiter

I can honestly say if I came on zone and all of my stuff was gone it would be the last time I logged in there.

You probably don't log on already, seeing as how there's hardly a person ever on Zone except for an hour or two maybe. Besides, everyone would have to start over, not just you, giving you a chance to get ahead of everyone before oldbies come back (if they decide to).
These ideas are to make the server BETTER and keep improving it, so how could it be terrible?

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by jkool666

I guess I just thought it was more obvious I wanted things done to the server prior to the reset. Not "just so players can work/lame their way back up to the top," ya know?

A few others, including me, thought otherwise than.

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Are you still 11, or have you aged?

LOL.

Hi Ricky.

Originally Posted by RebelArbiter

No I have aged but if I lose all my items and the server is still terrible I won't be going back on.

Exactly, that's why changes should occur and be tested before something that drastic happens.

Originally Posted by Aldaris

..(Stuff About Healing)..

That could make more use of base 1.

Or make real items that actually might heal in real life, but over time. Who eats a cookie and is healed? Although Zone is futuristic, I don't think a Cookie will ever magically heal you so much.

Also, heals over time would make healing more strategic, opposed to running/jet packing away and instantly healing and running back at your enemy.

Originally Posted by Switch

Besides, everyone would have to start over, not just you, giving you a chance to get ahead of everyone before oldbies come back (if they decide to).

That's just dumb, reseting the server so players will have something to work towards again. You'll cause more players to quit for a certain ammount of time than bring in, and those that do come in, once they realize nothing's changed and it's the same old crap, Zone's back at starting point 1 and Zone becomes a dependant server on resets so players can work back up to the top again. HORRIBLE thought process.

Though if changes occur, things might differ.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Though if changes occur, things might differ.

That's the point of this thread.

[Desear]

I agree with the first post completely.

[MiniOne]

I agree with jkool on this, his ideas for removal of certain weapons are great and gelats and the removal of trials being able to wear global guild tags have both influenced zone with a negative effect and should be fixed, though i disagree with the removal of rps and bps but rather host events for these two weapons (once per 2months?) and make them perm again, as well as making all guns perm.

[zorinkelpekem]

Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

I support everything aswell.

My request: Remove some weapons, add them to a shop where they could only be bought with Game Award points. Each different planet's Game Award points won't be the same. So in Koth's GA points shop, they would be different weapons than Iricia's Point shop.

Good idea =D, but like DuBsTeRmAn said, they will lose loads of players >.< i don't think anyone wants a reset

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by zorinkelpekem

Good idea =D, but like DuBsTeRmAn said, they will lose loads of players >.< i don't think anyone wants a reset

This plan should really be put in play, it's something I can see bringing back and/or in new players.

Reset? That's what everyone says, but once the server resets and it's back up, they'll all come crawling back at some point. People say that to try and scare the owners into not doing it, but if the gameplay is great, and things get better, they're bound to come back and play regardless of what they said in the past.

Zodiac is a prime example for me and if you've been around for their resets. Just about anyone not willing for a reset was going all

If you reset, I'll never play this dum server again!! me and my friends too!!

Along with multiple messages similar to that. What happens later on? They came right back because they can't resist the gameplay and new features/changes that were made within the downtime for the server to reset and such.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by seanthien

This plan should really be put in play, it's something I can see bringing back and/or in new players.

Reset? That's what everyone says, but once the server resets and it's back up, they'll all come crawling back at some point. People say that to try and scare the owners into not doing it, but if the gameplay is great, and things get better, they're bound to come back and play regardless of what they said in the past.

Zodiac is a prime example for me and if you've been around for their resets. Just about anyone not willing for a reset was going all Along with multiple messages similar to that. What happens later on? They came right back because they can't resist the gameplay and new features/changes that were made within the downtime for the server to reset and such.

Took the words out of my mouth.

I also concluded a lot of these ideas would require very little development work.

[Futurism]

I approved the weapon parts cause u have no chance to won BPs or RPs in a event put them in Zone shop (Ircia shop).

[Frazzle]

I agree with everything in the first post.

The server has lost a lot of players due to these mistakes and is therefore losing a lot of money from it. Trying new ways to attract more players should be #1 on the management's list. They would be foolish to not consider this idea.

[muupig]

Originally Posted by zorinkelpekem

i don't think anyone wants a reset

I do.
I want to rank up and get all medals again.

Originally Posted by Tainted_Love

Weapons that should be removed/altered (in my opinion):

Guns like red pistoles or blue pistoles should be kept.

I also agree with almost everything you've said.

[Leoxx]

Once again, just wont be happy seeing my items from upgrading go bye bye. One of the reasons I upgraded was JUST to get the doubleshot.

I have no problem seeing it switched to a specific class though. And as much as I like my black sabre, I'll be a-okay going back to nothing. Knowing me, if we had enough people playing, I could get to general in a day.

I'll be quite happy with the reset, but at least let the players keep something from it lol.

As for the healing thing, maybe let medics heal at a constant rate instead of instantly. Possible lower the energy cost too. That way people would have to sit and wait until they are healed enough to go out and fight again, and medics cant just wip out the meds, heal, then start fighting again as if nothing happened.

This will also make it better if the medics had to sit still (cause i dont think anyone can patch someone up while running) because they couldnt heal themselves on the run.

That should increase strategy .

[MagikMasterMind]

Merf medics? You wish! 

[Leoxx]

I'm just sayin'! lol
People tend to nerf everything, or even power things up because people heal so quickly.

It could just be easier to nerf the problem itself, the ability to heal.
I know right after people begin talking about regen, it would be kinda hypocritical to agree to it but want to nerf medics. But seriously, a medic is worse than cookies and medpacks, because their healing doesn't run out, and two or three heals could make him able to be in top condition. (added with the fact that there are weapons you can get for ANY class, it makes them quite the opponent)

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by Tainted_Love

-Removing trials ability to use Guild Tags

-The release of to many weapons and non-class-specific weapons
Zone doesn’t need as many weapons as it has, especially ones of such power. When I look back now, its obvious a lot of weapons were introduced with very little thought put into them with hopes that they’d keep players (which they did). But then it got a little ridiculous, how many “Insert Colour/Fancy Name” Rifles do we need?

Secondly, the manner in which they are added onto the player is ridiculous. Why even have classes if you’re going to release all the most powerful weapons to ALL classes? It destroys nearly all strategy in picking different classes. Weapons were originally placed into appropriate classes for a reason, balance.

I support fixing these two issues the most.

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

If you reset them now you will probally lose a ****load of players.

What players?

Also, many of the people on the highscores don't even play anymore. I believe they are trying to get new people to play the game, not cater to the selfish demands of the current players.

Another good idea would be expanding more upon the medic class. A few years ago your team absolutely needed a medic, but then powerups were released (like cookies; I hope you guys didn't put them back) and players became self-reliant. Even with the removal of all these powerups, the medic class still isn't used often. Perhaps you could brainstorm some ideas in the future.

I mean, you have to think real hard to remember a time when "strategy" and "Zone" were used in the same sentence. Try to invent ways for Zone to shift to a server in which it isn't he-who-pushes-s-or-d-the-most-wins.

[DeathOfRa]

How the hell did I get subscribed to this?

[jkool666]

Hmm...

Originally Posted by Nightmare

Ive read everything there. I dont se a single bad idea, except, why remove RPs and BPs?

Originally Posted by Liberated

I dissagree, i think that you should buy them in the ingame shop, just like it used to be, That's the only thing i dissagree with tho, and i liked the rest.

Originally Posted by Gambet

Some pretty solid ideas here for the most part,

Originally Posted by Nataxo

I support all of your ideas except for the weapons part...

Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

I support everything aswell.

Originally Posted by DeathOfRa

I like everything except the event weapon and holiday weapon removal.

Originally Posted by Novice

Jesse, I agree with everything you posted.

Originally Posted by Switch

These ideas are to make the server BETTER and keep improving it, so how could it be terrible?

Originally Posted by Desear

I agree with the first post completely.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

I agree with jkool on this,

Originally Posted by Frazzle

I agree with everything in the first post.

Originally Posted by muupig

I also agree with almost everything you've said.

Originally Posted by Dante55555

I support fixing these two issues the most.

Also...
-those who disagreed (a few people who don't want to lose their stats) were unsuccessful argueing their opinion ;P
-I had concluded this idea would take little development
-consider the number of people who agreed, consider WHO they are as most of them were once pretty wise active Zone players and consider how many people actually log onto the Zone Forums
-there are some players who posted who sounded like they agreed but didn't actually say "I agree"

I just think it's to bad some ideas weren't considered a bit more back when I thought this up, as now it's to late for this idea.

[Imperialistic]

Originally Posted by jkool666

stuff..

I'm going to agree, I would definetly go back to playing Zone, no doubt.

Actually I might even subscribe again, and I think alot of other people would too.
But it's going to be impossible to persuade Stefan.