Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[BlackSolider]

Clientside has its obvious flaws, though the people could have at least tried to adjust to it rather than just ***** about it. Still, it sucks. Plain and simple.

[xnervNATx]

like i told u , people blame the hd because they suck on it.
then that mean everyone suck at it ?

i have one thing to say

bring server back in us

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Name 20 players that currently play Graal on a regular basis that were around to 'appreciate' the old overworld and old hit detection on Classic.

[contego]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

like i told u , people blame the hd because they suck on it.
then that mean everyone suck at it ?

i have one thing to say

bring server back in us

I went on Classic and sparred and had no issues. I didn't "suck" however the fact remains that Classic is no longer Classic with the tileset changed and the hit detection changed. I'm not here to insult anyone and Laura it's unfortunate you're trying to taking this conversation in a different direction. Let's keep this this forum constructive and focused on to the topic please.

[Crono]

I've wanted the original HD since 2006 but I think we're at a point where Classic needs some real content. I don't see how the levels will make a difference at all.

Restoring the HD now would probably require a lot of re-scripting, and I feel that it should be tweaked but more time should be spent on giving players something real to do. We shouldn't have to rely on events to have a shred of fun on a game but that's how it is.

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

bring server back in us

Why, "because you suck at it"?

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Name 20 players that currently play Graal on a regular basis that were around to 'appreciate' the old overworld and old hit detection on Classic.

I can name people if you want, but I dont have to since theres a poll showing it. Let me know if you want those names.

[unknown]

Also, stop trying to reply with excuses about why we dislike it. We might sound like a broken record here, but its because ITS NOT CLASSIC, and its not even graal for that matter because of the hit detection. I can pk and spar just fine on it once I get in the zone, hell, I will probably take your best sparrer down, so don't use that excuse laura. Its just a stupid change which led to classics downfall in the first place. All you kids who argue it are the kids who sit around there and chat so I don't see why you'd care if the detection or the levels changed. Go use a chat client.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Obviously I can't see who voted, but I wonder actually how many people who voted have actually spent more than 100 hours on classic in the past two years. I theorize that many of the votes are from nostalgic people hoping for a return of their favorite time on "classic," whenever that was for them.

Again, besides the point. It's not about spending a certain amount of time on it in the past few years to determine this. What do you people not get about the word "CLASSIC"? It's not even about trying to return to my favorite time, its about leaving something the way it is because of the title and because obviously none of your newbie development methods have drawn a crowd, only dispersed them. Let me ask all of you Classic Supporters something, why do you like "this" version of classic? I think it's because you all just wasted so much time there already you feel hopeless and just stick to the plan.

[contego]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Name 20 players that currently play Graal on a regular basis that were around to 'appreciate' the old overworld and old hit detection on Classic.

If I were to go out of my way to make a pointless list of names for you it would accomplish nothing. However I can say there are definitely more than 20 players from that time line that now play Era, and Zodiac. These people couldn't get into Unholy Nation or NPulse because that Graal they know is Classic, and that Classic is gone.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Name 20 players that currently play Graal on a regular basis that were around to 'appreciate' the old overworld and old hit detection on Classic.

Hi.

And hey there contego.

Now before anyone goes "OMG what did Stryker vote!?", I'm not voting. Not getting my hopes up.

[contego]

Originally Posted by strykertffd

hi.

And hey there contego.

Now before anyone goes "omg what did stryker vote!?", i'm not voting. Not getting my hopes up.

hey man <333

You should vote. It's your opinion. But it's up to you of course.

[BlackSolider]

So, according to you, "Classic" means using the levels from the early 2000s and never changing them at all?

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by unknown

I can name people if you want, but I dont have to since theres a poll showing it. Let me know if you want those names.

Originally Posted by contego

If I were to go out of my way to make a pointless list of names for you it would accomplish nothing. However I can say there are definitely more than 20 players from that time line that now play Era, and Zodiac. These people couldn't get into Unholy Nation or NPulse because that Graal they know is Classic, and that Classic is gone.

Go for it.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

So, according to you, "Classic" means using the levels from the early 2000s and never changing them at all?

for the most part, yes...I mean, it would be nice to fix tile errors and thats about it. I understand possibly the development of an island for playerhouses and such, but leave the older levels alone. The only development classic needs is npcs, economy, and events IMO.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Go for it.

first off, half of btk is old and consistent players, so that sums that up.
but...even if I name people, you probably wouldn't even know them so whats the point?