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Old 04-04-2009, 12:43 AM
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You say you want change and for us to add more things to the current server. However, be specific and say EXACTLY what you want. You give some general things such as quests, but I think the opposite. Quests aren't fun to me, I don't even do the quest for the 'fun' of it, I just want the prize at the end, and I honestly don't care about the story line, or what you have to obtain the prize. (This is just my views on quests.)

Also, you say we should add more ways for noobs to get money with. I don't see the point of that when noobs in the first place aren't even using the current systems in place. Over time I do believe we should add more choices to the players on ways of obtaining money, however, currently they aren't even using the systems that are already designed, so I don't see it as a priority of making new systems when they most likely won't be used after a week.

If you do have ideas though of things that should be implemented on the main server, just post it. If it's good i'm sure that it will be made and designed. I was the one who thought of doing the whole instrument/concert thing and for me to get all the graphics, ganis, sounds, levels, it only took less than a week to make.
I am not developing era, and so that isn't my job. I'm pitching a concept to you and providing vague examples to clarify myself.
-No one claimed quests had to be extravagant works of genius, they are simply in existance to keep the community busy and entertained. The current quests are ineffective because the damage transition of the npc baddies were not changed from the 14 hp system to the 140 health point system, and so I see mobs of baddies biting at me dealing no more than 2 hp.
- Noobs do in fact use these systems as I am asked countless times "WHAT IS BEST WAY 2 BE RICH", and I always seem to have the same stale answers readily prepared for them.
But before even begining to consider the existance of new concepts, administration should first focus on repairing and improving older and neglected ideas.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:56 AM
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Noobs don't use those systems?

Obviously you're the noob here, Squirt.

Noobs would use the system if they could get rich with them, which is impossible right now!

In the times you weren't here (on Era), you could get almost every weapon by mining, yes, even by gambling in the casino.
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:44 PM
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Noobs don't use those systems?

Noobs would use the system if they could get rich with them, which is impossible right now!
I agree
Exept they can get the taurus, M3 and all the little guns that people with 3 mil still use
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:58 PM
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:01 PM
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Noobs don't use those systems?

Obviously you're the noob here, Squirt.

Noobs would use the system if they could get rich with them, which is impossible right now!

In the times you weren't here (on Era), you could get almost every weapon by mining, yes, even by gambling in the casino.
That was before people were spawning and duping items. With the current team we took about 6mil+ out of the economy by doing the hat auction as well as the hotel auction. The economy is BETTER than it was before, however, yes it could still be better. It will be impossible to revert it back the old ways, we can only lessen the problems. Right now only one person has more than a million while before there was several (4-6).
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:55 PM
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:55 PM
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Most people who have that kind of money spread it on accounts or share in groups. It isn't impossible to revert to the old ways. The old ways you think of aren't the old times we are referring to they mean back when 10k was a lot you mean when everyone was über rich
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:27 PM
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Yes, the people with 3 Mil that use those guns are sooo skilled.

Oh wait, do they also use speed level 1 ?

Oh and, why taking money out of the economy?
You could just raise the money you can make by mining etc. oO
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:03 PM
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Oh and, why taking money out of the economy?
You could just raise the money you can make by mining etc. oO
That's just like printing money, and won't solve anything.

Even trying to take money out of the economy is wasted effort at this point. Money isn't even really the problem...the spawned/duped $$ still exists as weapons, hotels, and hats.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:50 PM
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That's just like printing money, and won't solve anything.

Even trying to take money out of the economy is wasted effort at this point. Money isn't even really the problem...the spawned/duped $$ still exists as weapons, hotels, and hats.
That's not even neccessarily true anymore. I have taken notice that pricings have exponentially dropped over the last few months. Sten would be an ideal example, rolling today for $200,000-$300,000 comparing to december's $1mil.
Regardless if there was spawned cash or not, these objects will still exist at a lowered value and currently the values are decreasing and settling.
Far priceyer weapons (Shipka, DR, PBP, MT, Ak47), are making these changes as well at a much slower pace.
Drying money from the economy is very effective, It can be further executed with a few auctions and weapon releases at Neotechnology.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:19 PM
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That's not even neccessarily true anymore. I have taken notice that pricings have exponentially dropped over the last few months. Sten would be an ideal example, rolling today for $200,000-$300,000 comparing to december's $1mil.
Regardless if there was spawned cash or not, these objects will still exist at a lowered value and currently the values are decreasing and settling.
Far priceyer weapons (Shipka, DR, PBP, MT, Ak47), are making these changes as well at a much slower pace.
Drying money from the economy is very effective, It can be further executed with a few auctions and weapon releases at Neotechnology.
It doesn't solve anything. Yea, you take 3 million g's out of the economy, but you're putting 3 million g's worth of something back in it.

It's good that prices are dropping, but there's still 500000 of everything floating around somewhere. And if prices become too low, we then hit another problem...

Everything is just so unbalanced, I don't think there's anyway to get things back to equilibrium without a reset (largely due to duping/spawning).

Back to the original point: simply making it so that jobs give you more money would just causes prices to rise again.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:33 PM
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The problem with hard decision over players is, that they sometimes have to be done.

On gk nothing is moving because the playerbase is trying to prevent any bigger change on the totally corrupted gameplay, which is just based on gathering rare items, which have no other than collectible use as people hardly fight and the monsters overal, are quite weak.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:17 AM
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Jeez, already at it are ya guys? I wouldn't start ranting yet until we see this "New Era". Don't worry about it - I've seen a lot of people who are so hilariously incompetent that a lot of people can't guess why they haven't been fired/removed.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:26 AM
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Jeez, already at it are ya guys? I wouldn't start ranting yet until we see this "New Era". Don't worry about it - I've seen a lot of people who are so hilariously incompetent that a lot of people can't guess why they haven't been fired/removed.
we have seen it.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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we have seen it.
That was when the gmap was messed up, you aint seen it recently.
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