RoW spawn rate? and the gear situation in general.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by kia345

The point is, they're almost essential for pk'ing. It's not your everyday petty item that you keep for reselling, it's actually an important part of the game that is required for getting the fullest out of bmode.

Ignoring the gear and "system" situation - It's sort of disappointing that you don't recognize the shortcomings of handing out "leet" items to everyone, especially after Sam and his group of jokers practically molested the GK economy by doing the very same thing.

Really, it's more startling than disappointing.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by kia345

The point is, they're almost essential for pk'ing. It's not your everyday petty item that you keep for reselling, it's actually an important part of the game that is required for getting the fullest out of bmode.

If you want, I'll loan you some money to try spawning rings. I loaned 100,000 to Juggernaut to do the same thing. You should ask him how it's going if you see him.

[Demisis_P2P]

If anything GK needs fewer of the super high end items and needs a LOOTTTTTT more items in between.

[seanthien]

Gk just needs a more variety of rings and items to choose from. sure, RoWs went frm 500 dias to 1k+.. But if you release something similar to Rows but like with more str and less con or something, i'm sure Rows would drop in price.. ( nothing like bloods, bloods aren't realy best for any class. )

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by seanithen

Gk just needs a more variety of rings and items to choose from. sure, RoWs went frm 500 dias to 1k+.. But if you release something similar to Rows but like with more str and less con or something, i'm sure Rows would drop in price.. ( nothing like bloods, bloods aren't realy best for any class. )

Yes, release rings with ten dozen more ill-thought-out stat point assignments because players whine about a ring spawn rate. Capitol idea, old bean!

Pleez. Half the suggestions made by players for stats are obviously made by driveling powergamers that don't have the slightest conception of how to balance stats or even specialize in one area of levelling. So many people don't even pay attention to what stats actually do, and they're really missing out. So it's really irresponsible to just deck out more stuff that gets you to 'endgame' stats in a snap. Otherwise you have wealthier people (not naming names, but some of us know who they are) running around with absurdly high stats all the time and monopolizing the market for those as well. It's not going to change, man. GK has this stuff ingrained in it now because of the way it was structured. The stats you see on everything are so stupidly high all the time because it's technically endgame material, but not necessarily for Kingdoms...

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Draenin

Yes, release rings with ten dozen more ill-thought-out stat point assignments because players whine about a ring spawn rate. Capitol idea, old bean!

Pleez. Half the suggestions made by players for stats are obviously made by driveling powergamers that don't have the slightest conception of how to balance stats or even specialize in one area of levelling. So many people don't even pay attention to what stats actually do, and they're really missing out. So it's really irresponsible to just deck out more stuff that gets you to 'endgame' stats in a snap. Otherwise you have wealthier people (not naming names, but some of us know who they are) running around with absurdly high stats all the time and monopolizing the market for those as well. It's not going to change, man. GK has this stuff ingrained in it now because of the way it was structured. The stats you see on everything are so stupidly high all the time because it's technically endgame material, but not necessarily for Kingdoms...

big bulk of words hurt my eyes. That was all i read. People already run aroundn with high stats?

[RealJuggernaut]

i came back a while ago and was offering 1500 dias for a row, couldnt get one and stopped playing. came back again, this time trying to spawn one, and it lead to me quitting again.

i continued googi's experiment and i bought 813 rings before becoming too bored to play gk at all.
you dont think the spawn rate should be raised when people are quitting over trying to get one? lmao. retards

anyways-- about spawning rings, i think you got very lucky, googi. (or i got really unlucky) because i got 5 RoFs, 3 RoTs, and a ring of ancient magic. i have the other semi-rare rings recorded but they arent even worth mentioning. ridiculous

edit: to draenin or w/e... its not like the rate would be raised to 10% chance or some ****, and i doubt staff would go announcing "WE RAISED ROW SPAWN RATES WOOHOO GO AT IT"

you seem to forget that the only reason why there was a fair amount of rows back in the day is cause you could dupe plat

[Darklux]

This is the same discussion as always, people with good gear prefer the exclusivity of their gear to a good gameplay, and people with mediocre gear would like to hit the top class of players.

I think without a sort of compromise, it will always be like that, except the class of good players will be shrinking further.

[Arch_Angel]

Low spawn rate or not, if your actually on GK making money and working at it, you eventually get a RoW. I have never been TOO wealthy on GK, especially compared to Cell, Romain, Ricky, Morgan, John etc . . . But I managed to get 3 RoWs in my past, while having a playing time of 600 hours, and my account main level is maxed. If your actually into GK you get the RoW your aiming for eventually, these dudes that come back and were good think they cant walktz right up and get whatever they want quick and fast cause they got 1k diamonds. It takes a little more than that, I mean, it IS one of the best rings in the game.

As for gear goes, yea I'd have to agree we need maybe 1 or 2 higher class items for sure, and a lot in the mediocre area.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Arch_Angel

Low spawn rate or not, if your actually on GK making money and working at it, you eventually get a RoW. I have never been TOO wealthy on GK, especially compared to Cell, Romain, Ricky, Morgan, John etc . . . But I managed to get 3 RoWs in my past, while having a playing time of 600 hours, and my account main level is maxed. If your actually into GK you get the RoW your aiming for eventually, these dudes that come back and were good think they cant walktz right up and get whatever they want quick and fast cause they got 1k diamonds. It takes a little more than that, I mean, it IS one of the best rings in the game.

As for gear goes, yea I'd have to agree we need maybe 1 or 2 higher class items for sure, and a lot in the mediocre area.

Wonder how.
How about adding other stuff for other classes so people PLAY those classes?So not 80% of the population is looking for RoWs.

[Arch_Angel]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Wonder how.

Hacking.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by seanthien

How about adding other stuff for other classes so people PLAY those classes?So not 80% of the population is looking for RoWs.

Huh? RoWs aren't "for" a certain class? All classes can use them equally. They aren't even really melee-only.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by RealJuggernaut

you seem to forget that the only reason why there was a fair amount of rows back in the day is cause you could dupe plat

There's still about the same amount of plat out there, considering how many people do alchemy now. A fair collection of dusts will fetch you about 100k in no time.

You can get pretty much anything you want on the server as long as it isn't destroyed and you're persistent with what you're doing.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Draenin

There's still about the same amount of plat out there, considering how many people do alchemy now. A fair collection of dusts will fetch you about 100k in no time.

You can get pretty much anything you want on the server as long as it isn't destroyed and you're persistent with what you're doing.

A lot of RoWs are "destroyed".

When players quit, those RoWs might as well be destroyed (the players who have been gone for years).

When players are banned, the RoWs are lost (e.g. Satain getting banned, caused LOTS of items to be destroyed).

[kia345]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

(e.g. Satain getting banned, caused LOTS of items to be destroyed).

His house needs to be opened to the public so we can salvage some things