External Mac RC?

[Fry]

Originally Posted by Novo

How about this: Give me specifications on the protocol used... MINUS the encryption method... Basically -- They'd require only implementing the protocol required to communicate with the already-made remote controls.

If your problem is already the lack of knowledge about the protocol, then I somehow doubt you would get beyond basic RC chat functionality before getting bored and disappearing.

Originally Posted by Novo

As for external others (level editor, gani editor)... The apps can be made by developers. It's not that difficult to make: The files are pretty much in ASCII, easily understandable from text editor.

Yeah it's all really no problem, just parse the file and there's your level editor! No work at all really, maybe one hour!

Talk is good, but maybe you should make something before finding excuses or making claims. The thing is that it's not trivial work at all, and especially cross-platform support is not.

I do have to agree with Kristi that it is already a pretty big achievement to actually have the game run on all three platforms, and with having the development tools implemented by the game's scripting language you can keep these cross-platform problems to a minimum.

What you could complain about is GraalOnline not actually providing a scripted level editor. But as I said there is certainly nothing trivial about the work involved.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Fry

I do have to agree with Kristi that it is already a pretty big achievement to actually have the game run on all three platforms, and with having the development tools implemented by the game's scripting language you can keep these cross-platform problems to a minimum.

BRILLIANT! I wish I had the ability to give out rep more then once.

You people complain about the lack of mac tools, but then complain about the tools being scripted in game.

Although, I wouldn't object to external tools coded in java...

I use perl to generate levels and vim/kate (depending on my mood) to edit them.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Kristi

You people complain about the lack of mac tools, but then complain about the tools being scripted in game.

Just because it's been done, doesn't mean they shouldn't ask for something better.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Just because it's been done, doesn't mean they shouldn't ask for something better.

Point is that doing it in game makes it cross platform. If he modifies something about the rc protocol, the downloaded rcs would stop functioning. It is a lot easier to maintain the scripted rc.

As for a level editor, *anyone* could make that. The format of an .nw file is public.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Kristi

Point is that doing it in game makes it cross platform. If he modifies something about the rc protocol, the downloaded rcs would stop functioning. It is a lot easier to maintain the scripted rc.

As for a level editor, *anyone* could make that. The format of an .nw file is public.

Ya, it's a lot easier to manage... but besides that point, a lot of people tend not to like it. I really shouldn't get into another thing about scripted vs external. My point is just because it is there, and usable, doesn't mean people should lower their standards. Yes, they get a cross-platform RC finally, but it's not what they were expecting.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Kristi

Although, I wouldn't object to external tools coded in java...

I really think this is a good idea. I might study up on my Java and try making one. It's been a while since I've worked with Java.

That, or it might be better to just write a plugin for Tiled (someone else mentioned this in another thread).

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Kristi

Although, I wouldn't object to external tools coded in java...

Recompiling the tools for every platform is probably the least of the problems involved.