Role of PWA? - Page 4

HoudiniMan · #46 07-30-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by farte6

Im just trying to say they dont make anything better at all, as in ya know...saving the community.

Why do you think the forums are free now? In fact, I don't remember seeing you before that point on the forums.

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

The forums are losing their active posters to 3rd party fan sites that offer free accounts.

I think, at minimum, the forums should be open to anybody who has ever paid for Graal in any way.

Even if it's a 14 day 200g subscription, that puts money in Graal's pocket even if people make troll accounts.

I would like to discuss this in depth.

My personal goal is to streamline support, hopefully some day to have a client-based support ticketing system "like the big boys" and active support staff that respond immediately to a live queue of online players who need help.

For now, our focus is to get the most popular playerworlds to be as newbie friendly as possible. This means more FAQs and GPs around to help give advice and keep the peace. We're also open to suggestions, but those should probably each be their own thread.

We are almost done with revising the playerworld rules. I was ready to post the public pre-finalized rules to open discussion but then my stupid browser crashed and I lost 5 pages of editing and proofreading... That'll teach me to edit in a browser

They will get posted VERY soon I assure you.

On that note, that is one area that has fallen to the PWA in the more recent years nobody had mentioned as one of our functions: Implementing and enforcing playerworld rules and policies.

You can also expect to see this forum have a lot more PWA posts in it.

P.S. That quoted post started a thread I made in a private forum called "Graal Management" so the quote link won't work for most of you.

Codein · #47 07-30-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by farte6

...Im pretty sure the entire point of me saying this was that the PWA was useless because they're job did not require developing at all. Not only that but what they are required to do they rarely do at all, yet alone well.

You're still being ignorant to what they do. They actively moderate playerworld content, resolve playerworld issues and make sure all playerworlds run smoothly.

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Originally Posted by farte6

Wtf do I know though? Ive only developed and played with this community since the dawn on time.

Not really truthful. I remember you when were a noob on Babylon in 2002/03. I assume it took you about half a year/year to start really developing content that was useful.

Spark910 · #48 07-30-2008, 03:40 PM

I think it may be hard to see what the PWA do now, because the position has somewhat changed. For example, when I was PWA Admin a lot of visible change occured (most notably, the ability to pay for a playerworld which kept us all entertained with masses of content being taken), the support centre was established, more playerworlds were launched and moved around, anti-graal were probably more visible (not paid attention to say for sure), graal security was lower (allowing more script kiddies to mess around) and potentially even ghost accounts were kicking around when I first joined.

Now, with certain things no longer a big issue for the PWA it may seem little is done. But even if their role was diminished to a support center role (which it hasn't yet), then it'd still be productive, just different from what you may expect.

Roles change, so we can't look at it from the job description of 2-3 years ago. However, even if the PWA did little, that would be a good thing rather than a bad thing - as it'd mean everything was going fine! Of course, if that was the case there would be other issues to consider, but I am sure they are doing as Houdini mentioned.

Bell · #49 07-30-2008, 04:57 PM

Ok, I confess. I do nothing all day but sit and type on my computer for 6 to 12 hours and jump from playerworld rc to playerworld rc to make it look like I'm doing something. I'm guilty so throw me in jail now and throw away the pc.

excaliber7388 · #50 07-30-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bell

Ok, I confess. I do nothing all day but sit and type on my computer for 6 to 12 hours and jump from playerworld rc to playerworld rc to make it look like I'm doing something. I'm guilty so throw me in jail now and throw away the pc.

Who would care if you really did?

Darlene159 · #51 07-30-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Who would care if you really did?

Anyone who wants to see playerworlds succeed appropriately, that's who
Without the pwa, I am afraid to think what some playerworlds would be doing....

excaliber7388 · #52 07-30-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Anyone who wants to see playerworlds succeed appropriately, that's who
Without the pwa, I am afraid to think what some playerworlds would be doing....

I know, right?
I might still have one.

farte6 · #53 07-30-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein

You're still being ignorant to what they do. They actively moderate playerworld content, resolve playerworld issues and make sure all playerworlds run smoothly.

Not really truthful. I remember you when were a noob on Babylon in 2002/03. I assume it took you about half a year/year to start really developing content that was useful.

.....rofl and take what I said and apply it to what you just said they do. Kthx. Ill also pretend like you informed me of what they do just now as if I didn't know.

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Why do you think the forums are free now? In fact, I don't remember seeing you before that point on the forums.

Thats cool?

Darlene159 · #54 07-30-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by farte6

.....rofl and take what I said and apply it to what you just said they do. Kthx. Ill also pretend like you informed me of what they do just now as if I didn't know.

The PWA was not designed to make content for servers. They do exactly what they were hired to do. I dont understand what you are going on about.

Inverness · #55 07-31-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

The PWA was not designed to make content for servers. They do exactly what they were hired to do. I dont understand what you are going on about.

Perhaps you should just give up trying to explain it to him, he doesn't appear to want to see things the right way.

farte6 · #56 08-03-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness

Perhaps you should just give up trying to explain it to him, he doesn't appear to want to see things the right way.

Perhaps you just take a second and read instead of being so caught up in your own thoughts.

Crow · #57 08-03-2008, 12:32 AM

You are being pretty rude and ignorant. You say the PWAs job is useless because it doesn't include developing? Well, let's just fire the guys who manage the servers then, screw downtime, who cares, they don't develop.

Also, playerworld owners don't need the PWA, the PWA get's to them when there's a problem with their playerworld, most likely. Saying they don't make the game better is a false statement as well, since I believe especially Bell is making the game better. Her answers to questions/problems are incredibly fast, it just gives you a good feeling when your issues are resolved so quick.