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Old 04-12-2008, 11:30 PM
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I've added a test script on "login2" which shows a window with links to the last 10 topics on the guilds panel, also showing a different icon depending on if there are new messages.
Login to "login2", then to your favourite server, and set your guild tag. There will appear a new button in the task bar. Please tell me if you like that, and ideas about what could be improved or added.
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:46 PM
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I've added a test script on "login2" which shows a window with links to the last 10 topics on the guilds panel, also showing a different icon depending on if there are new messages.
Login to "login2", then to your favourite server, and set your guild tag. There will appear a new button in the task bar. Please tell me if you like that, and ideas about what could be improved or added.
Nice It would be nicer if we didn't have to go to the website and log in though..
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:43 AM
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I like it, and as Tig stated would be nicer if you could post and view them without logging into the site.


Would be very cool if you could somehow incorporate the Guild CP itself into the actual game, could make use of another "F#" key, or maybe have it on the task bar, "Guild CP" or something.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:51 AM
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I've added a test script on "login2" which shows a window with links to the last 10 topics on the guilds panel, also showing a different icon depending on if there are new messages.
Login to "login2", then to your favourite server, and set your guild tag. There will appear a new button in the task bar. Please tell me if you like that, and ideas about what could be improved or added.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:49 AM
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I've added a test script on "login2" which shows a window with links to the last 10 topics on the guilds panel, also showing a different icon depending on if there are new messages.
Login to "login2", then to your favourite server, and set your guild tag. There will appear a new button in the task bar. Please tell me if you like that, and ideas about what could be improved or added.
It needs the headers (Topic, Author, Posts, Views, Last Post) at the top, and the dark yellow font isn't really attractive for the hyperlinks to the threads. Local tags are an issue.. nothing special but they're showing the previously set guild's threads with the title of the local tag.

There are tons of things that could make guilds 100% better, but I honestly don't think this is one of them, it kind of takes the purpose from the website. Now all the website is used for is registrations, and that really pisses me off to be honest.
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There are tons of things that could make guilds 100 percent better, but I honestly don't think this is one of them, it kind of takes the purpose from the website. Now all the website is used for is registrations, and that really pisses me off to be honest.
Um why exactly? I've made this tool because people have requested it. It's telling you when there is a new post made on the guilds forum, and you can click on the thread to watch it. We could also add links / buttons for the other parts of the guild panel.

I'm not sure why you say it pisses you off that the website is only used for registrations. Actually you can also create an account within the game (or even simply by inviting a friend). Everything important is done by Graal anyway, the website is only an interface to it.
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it pisses you off
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It would be nice if the entire control panel could be put into the game, that way it is easier to keep guilds together. Imagine a private IRC server that can be opened on any server (Imagine an IRC window that can be opened on any server that lets you chat with anyone in the server, join separate channels, or join their guild on every server, also can be scripted so server can add channels).

Basically a way to unite guilds better. I think the IRC like I said, or even global toguild messages. Most successful guilds are all on one server, such as Cherry, etc, since there is little way to communicate.
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Um why exactly? I've made this tool because people have requested it. It's telling you when there is a new post made on the guilds forum, and you can click on the thread to watch it. We could also add links / buttons for the other parts of the guild panel.

I'm not sure why you say it pisses you off that the website is only used for registrations.
The suggestions Dusty made are good, but the suggestions made towards the in-game Guild CP are probably due to the fact that it was already planned to make it in-game. Personally I feel with local guilds, staff guilds and local guilds acting as other means (Kingdoms, Gangs, Nations) the guild CP is going to be extremely inconsistent with a lot of the other servers content if it is in game. A lot of the local guilds have custom interfaces that don't match the guild interface, but they're essentially the same thing -- it's annoying how disjointed everything is. This is why I believe the global guilds should stay as a part of a website-only interface.

The website is so incredibly disjointed from the client, and things probably shouldn't be made on the client because it's more convenient to add. Ziro you musn't be looking at many games, because in online gaming, it's rare to find websites that are poorly constructed and lack feature development while gaining and retaining a strong playerbase. Granted, many of their subscribers play for the high-quality in-game content itself, but most of the games have their interfaces for features like guilds on their websites.

The Graal website should act achieve 3 goals, especially in a marketing sense.
  1. Connect users to game content and features
  2. Drive sales
  3. Build customer (and potential customer) databases

The website is currently being rendered obsolete, but it is a massive tool that should be turning casual browsers into consumers. Other games utilize their sites much better, and return visits to their site it adds to the gameplay itself and works more as a community function. Content is an accelerator for this, and Graal's website currently has next to nothing, other than of course the guild panel.

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Actually you can also create an account within the game (or even simply by inviting a friend). Everything important is done by Graal anyway, the website is only an interface to it.
Features such as inviting a friend usually happens when you've first discovered a game, I highly doubt anyone has invited a friend using the client, because that is generally when they're more immersed in the game itself. Inviting a friend would be a more distinguishable call-to-action situated on the website, not the client.

Hell, if I'm wrong I'm wrong but over the last few years I was a big guild-orientated player and I never had an issue with the guild control panel being on the website, and wouldn't find it any more convenient in game. It's my personal opinion though, I just feel as though everything is being done so they can be edited easier, but that doesn't necessarily make them better. Just my opinion.
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