Zodiac, jailed for the escape button. - Page 7

Inverness · #91 12-09-2007, 08:32 PM

Uh, yes you do have time to abuse the glitch if the window is open for a fraction of a second.

xXziroXx · #92 12-09-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami

...no. If me and some guys decide to party it up, and I'm working my ass off, then some party member decides to esc while just sitting in the corner and not even doing anything, I should not be punished.

If the experience is earned in an "illegal" way, it should be removed - no?

cbk1994 · #93 12-09-2007, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inverness

Uh, yes you do have time to abuse the glitch if the window is open for a fraction of a second.

Well, it could probably be made possible so it kept track of your average lag (I made a script for this), and then if it was significantly different than the average from four pings ago, then shut 'em down for a bit, etc.

Crono · #94 12-09-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

If the experience is earned in an "illegal" way, it should be removed - no?

'Cept the "abuser" is just sitting there not doing anything.

xXziroXx · #95 12-09-2007, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami

'Cept the "abuser" is just sitting there not doing anything.

We had the same problem back on Maloria, people partied up and one of them went into "aggro range" of a baddy, thus making it attacking him, then they pushed Esc to not get hit by the baddy, who kept attacking him nonstop.

Basicly..

Person A aggros the mob, while Person B kills it without getting attacked.

Laek2007 · #96 12-09-2007, 10:15 PM

I think this is a good Idea.

There is no reason what so ever to push esc in a dungeon on Zodiac.

It might be controversial in the begining but after time people will accept this.

Inverness · #97 12-09-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Well, it could probably be made possible so it kept track of your average lag (I made a script for this), and then if it was significantly different than the average from four pings ago, then shut 'em down for a bit, etc.

I told you, the window opens and closes so fast that its not detectable.

Edit: Depending on the system that is. Also, you must first test if your system can handle 100+ players.

cbk1994 · #98 12-09-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laek2007

There is no reason what so ever to push esc in a dungeon on Zodiac.

That's what you think.

Inverness · #99 12-09-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud

That's what you think.

No, thats fact, if you're going to logout, leave the dungeon first or use Alt+F4.

xAndrewx · #**100** 12-09-2007, 10:38 PM

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cbk1994 · #**101** 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inverness

No, thats fact, if you're going to logout, leave the dungeon first or use Alt+F4.

Why not press escape to log out? There's nothing wrong with it? Should I be punished for using a feature of the game, even though not abusing?

xAndrewx · #**102** 12-10-2007, 12:10 AM

The log was what I found in my bin, i quit.

Crono · #**103** 12-10-2007, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

We had the same problem back on Maloria, people partied up and one of them went into "aggro range" of a baddy, thus making it attacking him, then they pushed Esc to not get hit by the baddy, who kept attacking him nonstop.

Basicly..

Person A aggros the mob, while Person B kills it without getting attacked.

Yeah but I'm talking about a case where the person who pressed esc has nothing to do at all with anything. He's just sitting in the corner alone and presses it. The whole party would have been jailed.

Twinny · #**104** 12-10-2007, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud

You're on fault for not even reporting it.

You are on fault? Nice try, eggbert.

Anyhoo if the damage was done serverside then this shouldn't be much of a problem... Kill the player serverside and the baddy should move on regardless of if the player's client is frozen. When he unfreezes, the events should catch up and he should be killed. Freezing your client shouldn't stop serverside processing on your player.

But I know from expierence that most of the Zodiac's combat system was done clientside.... Many, many patches.... You make the fix, Andrew...Don't make players suffer for your lack of ingenuity. Don't be lazy now.

Inverness · #**105** 12-10-2007, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Why not press escape to log out? There's nothing wrong with it? Should I be punished for using a feature of the game, even though not abusing?

Yes there is something wrong with it, it stops all script processing and Graal itself, which is abusable and will be eventually fixed by Stefan. There are no excuses so stop trying to make one. Just because a game has a feature doesn't mean its not abusable.

There is also no way for Zodiac to tell if you're using ESC to abuse or not, so just save yourself the trouble and either leave the dungeon or use Alt+F4 to quit Graal. If you want to be persistent, go ahead and use it and receive the punishment that comes with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinny

<snip>

I asked Yen about doing the stuff serverside and he went on to say about how there are too many calculations to be doing it 4 times a second or so for all the players and that it would cause too many CPU problems with all the zodiac players.