New Level Tutorial!

Aknts · #1 04-16-2003, 01:51 AM

Alright so Gori and I decide to do a new level tutorial.
Please do not post till all 8 images are posted.

Tutorial 1:
Added a basic outline, nice mountain and part of a sea to get some water in
the level.
Keeping it simple at start.

Aknts · #2 04-16-2003, 01:53 AM

Tutorial 2:
Just added a bit more mountains to the level, so atleast in my oppinion it
looks better

Aknts · #3 04-16-2003, 01:55 AM

Tutorial 3:
Started making the sand of the level, which took quite some time, and also
added a couple of
trees to have some vegetation.

Aknts · #4 04-16-2003, 01:57 AM

Tutorial 4:
Here we did mainly water stuff, like added some smaller ponds and fixed a bit
with the upper
sea.

Aknts · #5 04-16-2003, 02:00 AM

Tutorial 5:
Added some swamp, flowers (Don't know why I put those out yet) and some
fences to make
it look like some kinda pathway.
And added some more stuff to the upper sea.

Aknts · #6 04-16-2003, 02:02 AM

Tutorial 6:
Stones, bushes and some plantations, thats about it.

Aknts · #7 04-16-2003, 02:05 AM

Tutorial 7:
Added some cut down sign marks and such, just to fill out the space a bit
more.

Aknts · #8 04-16-2003, 02:08 AM

Tutorial 8:
Finishing it up, here added the final stuff to the sand and just finishing
it up with different
stuff. Hope you enjoy!

Aknts · #9 04-16-2003, 02:10 AM

We will also be having a new one in about 2 days, its basically the same tutorial just a different level with some other different things.

From Gori and I, We hope you enjoy the tutorial.

Gori said he would like to thank all Dynasty.

Waltz5 · #10 04-16-2003, 02:12 AM

Very Good Spanky and Gori

. What else would I expect from two great level makers like yourselves

.

Now someone sticky this!

konidias · #11 04-16-2003, 02:26 AM

It's quite a nice tutorial, but then, it's only a level, and there's nothing spectacular about a normal outside level. You have rocks, bushes, paths, trees.... I mean anyone can do that given the practice. What Graal really needs, is a good tutorial on how to make towns and villages. Since that's where most people really screw up. They either creative insane houses that make no sense and barely look like houses, or they use ugly pathways like carpet tiles and stuff... I wanna see a nice town level where the paths aren't all crazy and they aren't all perfectly straight... just a good town level.

magicbud3344 · #12 04-16-2003, 03:13 AM

Nice level Tutorial :0~

Spark910 · #13 04-16-2003, 11:49 AM

Its not much of a 'tutorial' to 'tutor' someone. Its more of a step-by-step ''look how I did it''

It doesn't actually help the people know where the tiles are. Most people wont find half of them tiles, or know what to do with them. For starters the first level, to beginners would be hard enough as it is to make it work.

draygin · #14 04-16-2003, 04:24 PM

Key word to tutorial tutorial It's a good tutorial as in it gives them a break down step by step on what sort of patterns and ways of doing it. It would be nice if it also had a section of things you dont do when making a level etc.. but for some one who wants to try to make an outside level its really good. I might try to make a level going off this tutorial and see how it turns out.

As for a town tutorial. I might do that when I get some free time it shouldn't be to hard. Most people's problem is color scheme. They dont have any theme's they do one type of house then another bright colors dark colors. They need to use colored tiles that are at least similar. Either all sorta dark tiles or all bright tiles etc..

draygin · #15 04-16-2003, 10:30 PM

Using the tutorial seems to work ok if you follow the examples. Pretty easy for newbies to follow. Here is my attempt. I could do better if I took the time but about the time I started finishing up on the water I became incredibly bored.

funnylinkwantsbomys · #16 04-22-2003, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
It's quite a nice tutorial, but then, it's only a level, and there's nothing spectacular about a normal outside level. You have rocks, bushes, paths, trees.... I mean anyone can do that given the practice. What Graal really needs, is a good tutorial on how to make towns and villages. Since that's where most people really screw up. They either creative insane houses that make no sense and barely look like houses, or they use ugly pathways like carpet tiles and stuff... I wanna see a nice town level where the paths aren't all crazy and they aren't all perfectly straight... just a good town level.

i hate when servers only have what spanky posted

* its like trying to run through a forest

Waltz5 · #17 04-22-2003, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by funnylinkwantsbomys
i hate when servers only have what spanky posted * its like trying to run through a forest

Definately.

They are very nice to look at, but most of the time you have to be practical and think of the players walking through them.

PrinceDark · #18 04-22-2003, 07:30 AM

Those levels are very nice, and I don't think it's a problem to walk through just as long as blocking objects like rocks and mushrooms are kept out of the way.
With levels like these it makes it easier for newbies to get away from pkers. A pker can chase ya and then you can easily jump behind a cliff or tree and slash at them or stop and go in the other direction while they try to predict what direction you're going in. You can easily lose them to give you enough time to warp away also.

Very nice tutorial. I hope to see one done on inside levels.

Spark910 · #19 04-25-2003, 03:15 PM

One server I was on, cant rmember which, had a PK area, and the level had random mushrooms and small rocks, which is stupid, as it blocks you.

Knuckles · #20 05-03-2003, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
It's quite a nice tutorial, but then, it's only a level, and there's nothing spectacular about a normal outside level. You have rocks, bushes, paths, trees.... I mean anyone can do that given the practice. What Graal really needs, is a good tutorial on how to make towns and villages. Since that's where most people really screw up. They either creative insane houses that make no sense and barely look like houses, or they use ugly pathways like carpet tiles and stuff... I wanna see a nice town level where the paths aren't all crazy and they aren't all perfectly straight... just a good town level.

Amen...

All the levels are starting to look the same to me now...

Cliffs, more cliffs, dirt, water, and bushes.. WOW! =o

Azrael528 · #21 05-03-2003, 07:41 AM

Yea its bad...as in not good, but the level was pretty though good job spanky and other guy gori i think was his name.

TripleE · #22 06-07-2003, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Spark910
One server I was on, cant rmember which, had a PK area, and the level had random mushrooms and small rocks, which is stupid, as it blocks you.

Atlantis,Gaia,Galtheia(sp)

protagonist · #23 06-21-2003, 04:14 AM

Houses are not easy to make if you are trying to make them unique.

TripleE · #24 06-21-2003, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist
Houses are not easy to make if you are trying to make them unique.

That shows you cant be creative

protagonist · #25 06-21-2003, 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by TripleE

That shows you cant be creative

No, it shows that I'm truthful. Alot of houses have been done, it's difficult to find a nice looking house that is unique.

Eric_1337 · #26 06-21-2003, 05:02 AM

You people are stupid. Obviously have no idea what you are talking about. You can't teach creative, so stop complaining that we need better houses or whatever you're trying to say.

The MAIN problem is level makers aren't very familur with the default tileset. It's not that people don't have good ideas, but they either can't make it with this tileset because of the extreme limitations it holds, or they have to clue where to find the tiles to make it.

You think all you see is cliffs, but I'm sorry, not many people can make them well.

protagonist · #27 06-21-2003, 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337
You people are stupid. Obviously have no idea what you are talking about. You can't teach creative, so stop complaining that we need better houses or whatever you're trying to say.

The MAIN problem is level makers aren't very familur with the default tileset. It's not that people don't have good ideas, but they either can't make it with this tileset because of the extreme limitations it holds, or they have to clue where to find the tiles to make it.

You think all you see is cliffs, but I'm sorry, not many people can make them well.

I'm sorry, but your levels are underdetailed.
You can't teach creative, no, but you can inspire.

YoungTwist · #28 06-23-2003, 07:11 PM

This is nice for ****ies trying to build. But some people need to learn how to make it 1st before makeing the wall bigger. Some people dont know how to make tress connecting and we need some Tutorials that can teach these people how to make stuff. I had to learn on my own and get tips from people. At first i didnt even know we could build levels till Aeryn *Old Manager of Bravo Online* showed my brother MD and MD showed me. Now i build levels and MD scripts.

Crono · #29 06-29-2003, 12:55 AM

Yes, the level looks good and all but too many LATS are taking it, making it a "style" as in a new graal generation level type, and slapping it all over the player world and I'm personally sick of it because I don't WANT to do my levels that way and yet so many people are converting to this style that it's making the older versions look bad. Sure, the level looks good, but when a player worlds slaps up every level like that and expects players to be able to actually have room to walk around and make houses, it gets lame.

ApeHex · #30 07-31-2003, 11:20 AM

I agree with Eric, everything he posts on these forums I agree with him. My years playing graal and being a LAT myself I still dont know where some tiles are.

hype4 · #31 06-27-2007, 01:28 AM

i probley sound like such a newb at this, but i cant find the tiles to make cliffs...the tile set only has certain directions. btw im not that new at level disighning this is just one thing that bothers me

theHAWKER · #32 06-27-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hype4

i probley sound like such a newb at this, but i cant find the tiles to make cliffs...the tile set only has certain directions. btw im not that new at level disighning this is just one thing that bothers me

the cliff tiles are scrambled about in the first section of the tile map, but you can always go to the pre-made tiles and learn from thoughs

Vima · #33 06-27-2007, 02:11 PM

The toturial was kinda good, but next time you are going to do a toturial, please fix your bugs before you post the pic :X
I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.
AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

Crono · #34 06-27-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vima

The toturial was kinda good, but next time you are going to do a toturial, please fix your bugs before you post the pic :X
I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.
AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

Well, back in 2003 this was godlike.

Spark910 · #35 06-27-2007, 02:46 PM

Damn I was a ***** 4 years ago.

Crono · #36 06-27-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

Damn I was a ***** 4 years ago.

Why do you think we complained so much about your modding?

WanDaMan · #37 06-27-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hype4

i probley sound like such a newb at this, but i cant find the tiles to make cliffs...the tile set only has certain directions. btw im not that new at level disighning this is just one thing that bothers me

Search for "Cliff Objects" - I did some a while ago

Zideruic · #38 06-27-2007, 08:24 PM

My name sake Eric_1337!!

Aknts · #39 06-28-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vima

The toturial was kinda good, but next time you are going to do a toturial, please fix your bugs before you post the pic :X
I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.
AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

Show me a better level that you made.

Crono · #40 06-28-2007, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aknts

Show me a better level that you made.

Spanky, make levels again and show them!