The Treaty of Zormite Dominance of the North Western Island

[StrykerTFFD]

I was definately present for the Summit.
My signature is there.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Googi

Where's Alan in all of this? He should still has to explain why he didn't sign.

The leaders of the Crescent Pirates, Dustari and Forest did not sign, actually (according to the .jpg at the head of this thread).

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

This is the reason why the Zormite was abandoned. No one cared enough to pass it on. Akira herself didnt even want anything to do with it anymore. The lack of info (canon) forces people to try and tie things together the best they can.

Yeah, there's no interest. That's why I offered to bail you out of the execution in order to save Zormite.

There are only three people who's fault this is. You, Kefkin and Alan.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Googi

We're not just coming onto 2K2 and claiming leadership. We're vanquishing the Drow from Zormite island. It's not like we came to a Zormite kingdom and just said "Hand over the throne" or anything like that.

I look forward to fighting you and any of those that oppose Bel'la for the many years to come.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Cheops

The leaders of the Crescent Pirates, Dustari and Forest did not sign, actually (according to the .jpg at the head of this thread).

I was the highest ranking Forest at the Summit, I've already spoken with our leaders on the issues, so I know they would've wanted a treaty signed.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Cheops

The leaders of the Crescent Pirates, Dustari and Forest did not sign, actually (according to the .jpg at the head of this thread).

Stryker signed later. Drk hasn't signed but he didn't refuse either. Alan actually refused to sign and I'm looking for an explanation.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

VERY WELL PUT CHEOPS.

This is the reason why the Zormite was abandoned. No one cared enough to pass it on. Akira herself didnt even want anything to do with it anymore. The lack of info (canon) forces people to try and tie things together the best they can.

But wait.... It looks like this is a private party a bunch of studs has crashed, and now the olbies are mad because all their women are going home with us.

As far as the treaty... no forest leaders were present while Bel'la Olplyn was there.. making it totally invalid signature.

And the signers of the Declaration of Independence weren't the Governors of those states.

He was sent as a represenative of the Protectorate of the Forest in which he did his duties. Not like your opinion matters on the issue anyway.

Originally Posted by Cheops

The leaders of the Crescent Pirates, Dustari and Forest did not sign, actually (according to the .jpg at the head of this thread).

The leadership of Dustari sent no real representative, their signature comes later. After all they are occupying the Western areas of the Zormite Island right now.

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I look forward to fighting you and any of those that oppose Bel'la for the many years to come.

And I laugh at your future attempts that have failed one month ago!

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Googi

We're not just coming onto 2K2 and claiming leadership. We're vanquishing the Drow from Zormite island. It's not like we came to a Zormite kingdom and just said "Hand over the throne" or anything like that.

Yeah, go that much. Wasn't accusing the present company of anything, so no need to justify it with me. I was saying it sets a complicated precedent.

On a related note, though---the leader of the Zormite Island *was* Kefkin: Graynt Alexander... doubtful the present Zormite insurgence plans to put him on the throne again. I feel like we need a better established canon literature, otherwise those of us who are new are discouraged from RPing simply because we will be told we are not versed enough in the canon to effectively RP. But I repeat myself.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I look forward to fighting you and any of those that oppose Bel'la for the many years to come.

I fought Karakaze which had people like Marle, TrueHeaT and Sisok. Who the hell are you?

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

And the signers of the Declaration of Independence weren't the Governors of those states.

He was sent as a represenative of the Protectorate of the Forest in which he did his duties. Not like your opinion matters on the issue anyway.

because im not staff???? lol you use the declaration of Independence as an example. THE UNITED STATES GOVMT IS A JOKE.

My opinion matters... im married to the princess of the land. I am returning to my position with my followers, and we plan to get those smokers ready... I want some salmon for dinner.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Cheops

On a related note, though---the leader of the Zormite Island *was* Kefkin: Graynt Alexander... doubtful the present Zormite insurgence plans to put him on the throne again. I feel like we need a better established canon literature, otherwise those of us who are new are discouraged from RPing simply because we will be told we are not versed enough in the canon to effectively RP. But I repeat myself.

Graynt Alexander was killed by the Drows...

Secondly he was a false leader of the Zormite nation, there was a communications barrier between the two states. The Zormite Empire thought that the Zormite colony fell and vice versa. So the colony would be annexed back into the Empire with the Emperor selecting a Viceroy or whatever.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

and we plan to get those smokers ready... I want some salmon for dinner.

Haha, you actually want to engage Zormite in battle?

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Googi

Haha, you actually want to engage Zormite in battle?

With a non-existant army too...

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Googi

Haha, you actually want to engage Zormite in battle?

I could kill their level 8 (zurk) leader in one blow. While none of you could touch me with my -87 AC, and 98% magic resistance.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I could kill their level 8 (zurk) leader in one blow. While none of you could touch me with my -87 AC, and 98% magic resistance.

Your character couldn't touch the slayer of the Samurai nation, conquerer of the Bomies.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I could kill their level 8 (zurk) leader in one blow. While none of you could touch me with my -87 AC, and 98% magic resistance.

None of us, eh.

As if real RP battles should be fought with ingame mechanics anyway.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Your character couldn't touch the slayer of the Samurai nation, conquerer of the Bomies.

My wife did, and both died equal ammount of times. She defended the Debaglio name until Bosh called it off. Did he not tell you of her might?

I never said anything about my WC you ding dong. Its not enough to hit the other leaders, but your puny behind would be kneeling to me begging for me to remove my sword from your body.

So Lance since you wont reply to my PM..... it seems like its the man with the most staff on his side. Real fun game your running here.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I could kill their level 8 (zurk) leader in one blow. While none of you could touch me with my -87 AC, and 98% magic resistance.

Level...and...stats....does...not...equal...rolepl aying....strength! Gaaaaahhhh....
Every time you say this, it makes me want to start pulling hair out!

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Graynt Alexander was killed by the Drows...

Secondly he was a false leader of the Zormite nation, there was a communications barrier between the two states. The Zormite Empire thought that the Zormite colony fell and vice versa. So the colony would be annexed back into the Empire with the Emperor selecting a Viceroy or whatever.

And that communications barrier, I'm guessing, was being on different servers and having different memberships. Trying to keep the storylines of two different servers leads to a lot of metagaming.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

With a non-existant army too...

To be fair, when the pirates sent a fleet to attack Bel'la with the Zormite Empire, we failed to see the massive armada that arrived to storm the Zormite Island. You have a point, though, Zurkiba, that at some point you have to let the game mechanics reflect the RP...

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Your character couldn't touch the slayer of the Samurai nation, conquerer of the Bomies.

...but again if Debaglio's non-existent army can't be RPed into existence (through mere force of RP), how can lvl 8 translate into an untouchable slayer of Samurai and bomy-conqueror (or a lack of boats into the greatest armada the world has ever seen)? Or are you referring to the RP itself and the non-precedent of this army?

P.S. Got me really excited hoping to see the armada, too. Woulda only taken 53 boards per ship to get some good game mechanics to back up that RP.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

My wife did, and both died equal ammount of times. She defended the Debaglio name until Bosh called it off. Did he not tell you of her might?

I never said anything about my WC you ding dong. Its not enough to hit the other leaders, but your puny behind would be kneeling to me begging for me to remove my sword from your body.

So Lance since you wont reply to my PM..... it seems like its the man with the most staff on his side. Real fun game your running here.

Your 'wife' has nothing to do with the current conversation.

No one said anything about your WC ethier. And yet again, you're putting game mechanics over roleplaying.

Originally Posted by Cheops

And that communications barrier, I'm guessing, was being on different servers and having different memberships. Trying to keep the storylines of two different servers leads to a lot of metagaming.



To be fair, when the pirates sent a fleet to attack Bel'la with the Zormite Empire, we failed to see the massive armada that arrived to storm the Zormite Island. You have a point, though, Zurkiba, that at some point you have to let the game mechanics reflect the RP...



...but again if Debaglio's non-existent army can't be RPed into existence (through mere force of RP), how can lvl 8 translate into an untouchable slayer of Samurai and bomy-conqueror (or a lack of boats into the greatest armada the world has ever seen)? Or are you referring to the RP itself and the non-precedent of this army?

P.S. Got me really excited hoping to see the armada, too. Woulda only taken 53 boards per ship to get some good game mechanics to back up that RP.

The kingdoms are different now... excluding the Zormites. In which everything is planned out.

No Armada was seen because we had what... four people on tag? It wasn't within our in game ability to produce a huge armada. Most of those ships are still up north en route - slightly delayed by that land monster the Drows summoned and moved it into the ocean.

Debaglio is saying he has an army just to say it. We're not. And levels mean nothing, levels are completely OOC.

Yet again, the greatest resource for events is manpower.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Lance

None of us, eh.

As if real RP battles should be fought with ingame mechanics anyway.

Come on people, it's a waste of game mechanics. If you wanted an RP-only situation, you could join a game where everything takes place on the forums and people submit graphics of the events (I've done it before, it's fun but at some point you need the lusher game mechanics and graphics of a MMORPG like GK to breathe some life into what otherwise becomes a literature contest.

I can't fathom how the greatest RP *alone* could take over a kingdom, given you have lvl 50+ phys people running around.

Again, RP and game mechanics don't have to be incompatible or antagonistic.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Your 'wife' has nothing to do with the current conversation.

No one said anything about your WC ethier. And yet again, you're putting game mechanics over roleplaying.

OMG.......

You: Use staff to get your way.

ie: RP Team (now gone.. lol), getting warped into the castle.

Me: Pure Playa

ie: Building a fortune from nothing, getting into castles on my own, using my reputation to build a legitimate army that will stand behind me till the end.

I understand that you dont really care about the game... leveling, making weapons, mining, or any real things that people actually do. All you want to do is RULE THE WORLD. Well buddy boi... sorry to tell you that you cant rule if you are not

A) Respected
B) Powerfull
C) Rich

Take a break and play some PS2..... ive got some akdoV to drink and a movie to watch. See you tomorrow, and believe me... my P's and Q's are in check and i'm ready to rock your world.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

OMG.......

You: Use staff to get your way.

ie: RP Team (now gone.. lol), getting warped into the castle.

Me: Pure Playa

ie: Building a fortune from nothing, getting into castles on my own, using my reputation to build a legitimate army that will stand behind me till the end.

I understand that you dont really care about the game... leveling, making weapons, mining, or any real things that people actually do. All you want to do is RULE THE WORLD. Well buddy boi... sorry to tell you that you cant rule if you are not

A) Respected
B) Powerfull
C) Rich

Take a break and play some PS2..... ive got some akdoV to drink and a movie to watch. See you tomorrow, and believe me... my P's and Q's are in check and i'm ready to rock your world.

Obviously you're ignorant to my respect, power, and wealth I possess... seeing how the staffers side with me and so does everyone else.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Cheops

And that communications barrier, I'm guessing, was being on different servers and having different memberships. Trying to keep the storylines of two different servers leads to a lot of metagaming.

Or, there could just be a long swim. That no one wanted to make until Drow invaded and threatened their lives.

Originally Posted by Cheops

...but again if Debaglio's non-existent army can't be RPed into existence (through mere force of RP), how can lvl 8 translate into an untouchable slayer of Samurai and bomy-conqueror (or a lack of boats into the greatest armada the world has ever seen)? Or are you referring to the RP itself and the non-precedent of this army?

There's a difference between SUDDENLY having a huge RP army and working your way up from an herbalist to a hero. One of them was actually RPed, and is thusly valid.

Originally Posted by Cheops

P.S. Got me really excited hoping to see the armada, too. Woulda only taken 53 boards per ship to get some good game mechanics to back up that RP.

Unless the mechanics were superflous

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Unless the mechanics were superflous

Please explain where game mechanics are superfluous (in the general case and in the specific case of the Zormite Empire's insurgency/armada.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

conquerer of the Bomies.

Conquerer of the Bomy. There was only one there.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Googi

conquerer of the Bomy. There was only one there.

Three
You, Guy, and DragonX

There would've also been some background bomies, npc bomies who filled the rest of the population.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Obviously you're ignorant to my respect, power, and wealth I possess... seeing how the staffers side with me and so does everyone else.

Yeah thats why you have been x'ed from every Kingdom. LOL. Do you not remember what happened when you tried to join Dustari under Ed's rule. LOL. Ohhh wait thats when Zormite was still around... you didnt dare come then.

Obviously you can tell that I dont really care about the staffers...... been banned by almost everyone of them, because of the lack of clarification for what you can and cant do on GK.

Dont get me wrong I respect STAFF. Bjorn, Sam, Vulcan, Lance, Luciano, and dont forget the creator. I just dont brown nose them to get my AKI'way.

Even banned because you guys made up some rediculous harassment about me.... but were not talking about a ban here........ were talking about how you cant get anyone to jump on your bandwagon becuase you suck. Why would staff want a leader that doesnt even know how to play the game. Anyone can RP.... not everyone can achieve and maintain the balance.

As far as everyone else...... im talking about players who are not already in your little circle j.

Peace.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Three
You, Guy, and DragonX

There would've also been some background bomies, npc bomies who filled the rest of the population.

Yeah, but you only actually conquered one.

You know what I mean.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Yeah thats why you have been x'ed from every Kingdom. LOL. Do you not remember what happened when you tried to join Dustari under Ed's rule. LOL. Ohhh wait thats when Zormite was still around... you didnt dare come then.

Obviously you can tell that I dont really care about the staffers...... been banned by almost everyone of them, because of the lack of clarification for what you can and cant do on GK. Even banned because you guys made up some rediculous harassment about me.... but were not talking about a ban here........ were talking about how you cant get anyone to jump on your bandwagon becuase you suck.

As far as everyone else...... im talking about players who are not already in your little circle j.

Peace.

Yeah I remember joining Dustari under Ed.
I was established as a Duke and I was given half the island.

Oh, and I havn't been "x'ed" from every kingdom.

And last I saw, everyone is jumping on my wagon. That's why everyone attacked the BO Order and there was no one to defend.


---
You know what? I'm going to see if the ignore feature works on these forums

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

So Lance since you wont reply to my PM..... it seems like its the man with the most staff on his side. Real fun game your running here.

Did you miss this part: "...an entirely separate matter (and one which I do not care to discuss at this time)."?

[MasterNuke]

Zurkiba is a respectable RPer who actually makes sense. Stuff that he says makes sense. His plans make sense. Though at the time of my Kingship, his activity didn't make sense and the remaining loyal Dustari wasn't prepared to face the freshly handed off from Aki, Zormite Republic. So I halted the war by putting Zurkiba Warhare's existance into question and met with Graynt. I had made an agreement to step down from the throne in order to spare the lives of innocent Dustarians who were dragged into the war. Though those who remained were willing to fight to the end, I much prefered to spare those lives.

Now stop bringing it up, Debaglio.


Anyway... back on topic... I didn't sign for Samuel(Drk) because of the code of Sagecity that I vowed to.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

OMG.......
You: Use staff to get your way.
ie: RP Team (now gone.. lol), getting warped into the castle.

If you can provide evidence, show it.
None of the RP Team can warp or warp anyone.
Don't make up pathetic excuses.

[Draenin]

Wow. o_o This topic exploded overnight. Who added the nitro glycerin?

Debbie, none of us warped Zurk into the castle. We don't even have that ability, for cryin' out loud. And no, the RP Team is not gone. We are just kind of in a state of purgatory.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Don't make up pathetic excuses.

Then he wouldn't be posting

[meishanli]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Dont get me wrong I respect STAFF. Bjorn, Sam, Vulcan, Lance, Luciano, and dont forget the creator. I just dont brown nose them to get my AKI'way.

Haha stop sucking up you ****. You got banned by evidence. Think before you act, if you don't like the consequences.

Still banhammered? :'[

[Python523]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Even banned because you guys made up some rediculous harassment about me.... but were not talking about a ban here........ were talking about how you cant get anyone to jump on your bandwagon becuase you suck. Why would staff want a leader that doesnt even know how to play the game. Anyone can RP.... not everyone can achieve and maintain the balance.

Shut up and stop whining. You got banned for a valid reason.

[Brad]

yo debag im zormite general and i can beat you in-game if that really means so much to you yo.

i have like 402 hp and better ac/wc than you ;D!!@!#!@#

[Zero Hour]

Yes!
That's right!



That's right, these are
all prime examples of
what you should do if
you want to be a jerk*.

*Or, y'know, just get a
thread closed!