Log mass messages

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Era never logged PM chat before because I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do so.

This is correct.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by CharlieM

I thought I remembered kuji getting banned one time for using too many racist words in pm's

That's not PM logging, that's part of the word filter. It used to say in RC stuff like "KuJi has used rude words while pming: word1, word2, word3". It still logs words players use, we just aren't so strict about it.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Frankie

what makes player chat on a gmap any different than an inside level?


Era never logged PM chat before because I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do so.

A gmap is more "public" in my opinion and is likely (save for specific inside hangouts) to have a higher concentration of players. The decision was made largely as another way to deter the more extreme offenders from chat-spam/advertising and because trainer users like to show off in populated areas.

I'd like to stress that in any circumstance chat logging should only be done when reasonable suspicion deems it necessary to do so.

[CharlieM]

Even if the stuff is logged, most people assume its already logged, because at one time era did log PM's if I remember correctly. If a person doesn't want to get in trouble for something bad all they are going to do is talk over vent, or instant messangers

[CharlieM]

I thought I remembered kuji getting banned one time for using too many racist words in pm's

[WhiteDragon]

Monitoring and censorship is a difficult topic, and there isn't really a clear answer to it.

The administration has to evaluate exactly what the risks are, and what the people think the risks are (which people are actually pretty good at.

Only by creating a balance between the two would create a enjoyable playing environment; that is, one where people aren't feeling monitoring and one where people are safe from abuse.


Personally, I believe that all PMs should be logged; however, they should not be accessible to local staff without intervention from global staff. And the global staff should only be able to allow access with there is a dispute between two players.

The process should go something like this:

1. Player 1 (P1) complains that Player 2 (P2) is harassing him through a form.
2. A Local tries to resolve dispute between the players first, checks all prior history of the two players, etc. Everything done should be marked on the form.
3. If the Local can not resolve the dispute, then they can choose to involve a Global into the process to gain access to the PMs.
4. The Global should evaluate the situation/form and if they think it is necessary, they can allow access to the PM logs between P1 and P2.
5. The Local uses the logs to wrap up any loose ends and closes the dispute.

This way:

• No one has access to the logs unless there is a dispute filed by a player.
• The Local does not have access to logs unless they try everything else and a Global grants them access.

Through encryption and other forms of cryptography, it can be made impossible for anyone to view the logs unless there is consent from all parties.


I believe there are situations which require hard proof, and mechanisms can be provided so only the people who need that proof have access to it.

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