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Old 08-13-2008, 08:02 AM
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I don't think it's a good idea just because it would take away too much money from the game. Stefan makes the majority of his income from playerworlds, not player accounts. Or atleast half.. ;x

The reason most people like graal is because it's developed and run by the players, for the most part it is anyway. Taking the ability to make your own playerworld away, no matter how crappy, would take away from it's spark imo.

Some players might not be as talented or creative, but it takes time to learn. There really is no other way to learn to script other than buying a server so unless Stefan plans on making a gs2 editor, that would actually slim down the number of new developers aswell.


Maybe the PWAs could give server stars to rate how good they are based on content already developed and the future plans that they have for the server. Aswell as maybe telling what they already have done. Obviously, there are way too many playerworlds to get to them all, and some (the bad) servers might not agree to it. But at the owner's request they could inspect the server every, say 6 months.

It would help developers choose which servers to work for so they aren't just wasting their time with some dead end project and could instead work on a well thought out one with other good developers.


Though I guess it shouldn't be that hard for you to figure out if it's going to be a waste of time or not for yourself.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:36 AM
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The reason most people like graal is because it's developed and run by the players, for the most part it is anyway. Taking the ability to make your own playerworld away, no matter how crappy, would take away from it's spark imo.
I don't think most people on Graal develop servers, but a lot do, yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Graal's most appealing features it's community and .. well.. used to be when you could pay just 26 dollars and play for life...

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Some players might not be as talented or creative, but it takes time to learn. There really is no other way to learn to script other than buying a server so unless Stefan plans on making a gs2 editor, that would actually slim down the number of new developers aswell.
You can learn to script with the GS1 features in the level editor. I was talking about scripting with a friend once, and he said that a lot of GS1 scripters just learned to convert from GS1 to GS2, so perhaps they could start out with GS1, then learn how GS2 works. I think Twinny has a good guide on GS2.


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Maybe the PWAs could give server stars to rate how good they are based on content already developed and the future plans that they have for the server. Aswell as maybe telling what they already have done. Obviously, there are way too many playerworlds to get to them all, and some (the bad) servers might not agree to it. But at the owner's request they could inspect the server every, say 6 months.
I don't know, I personally like how UC servers can gain global attention through the login screen. That's a good way to tell which servers are up and coming (for a UC server, that is).

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It would help developers choose which servers to work for so they aren't just wasting their time with some dead end project and could instead work on a well thought out one with other good developers.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:03 AM
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I don't think most people on Graal develop servers, but a lot do, yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Graal's most appealing features it's community and .. well.. used to be when you could pay just 26 dollars and play for life...
I think most know how to atleast do something. Either LAT, GAT, or NAT. Maybe they don't do it on a staff team, but they make their own things and get them uploaded to the server. I wasn't referring to just developing when I said that's the reason they play. It's the way everything is playerbased. Being able to be a PR staff even if you can't develope, being able to upload your own houses, heads, etc.. Most people who have played for a while have been staff before, and most people who just starting playing look up to and want to be those staff. There's over 100 servers, so a pretty big portion of people do make their own server if you compare that to how many people actually play.


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You can learn to script with the GS1 features in the level editor. I was talking about scripting with a friend once, and he said that a lot of GS1 scripters just learned to convert from GS1 to GS2, so perhaps they could start out with GS1, then learn how GS2 works. I think Twinny has a good guide on GS2.
Don't most people want to hire staff who script in gs2, not gs1? It seems pretty pointless to have to learn gs1 in order to be able to learn gs2 anyway.


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I don't know, I personally like how UC servers can gain global attention through the login screen. That's a good way to tell which servers are up and coming (for a UC server, that is).

Yeah, but it would be nice to be able to see them all instead of waiting for a new update. There are other servers worth working on other than just those.

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Old 08-13-2008, 11:25 AM
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You can learn to script with the GS1 features in the level editor. I was talking about scripting with a friend once, and he said that a lot of GS1 scripters just learned to convert from GS1 to GS2, so perhaps they could start out with GS1, then learn how GS2 works. I think Twinny has a good guide on GS2.
No! GS1 corrupts your mind! Once there was this guy who learned GS1. When he tried to learn about other languages, he went insane. There was also another one, a professional programmer, his head literally exploded just looking at GS1.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:46 PM
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No! GS1 corrupts your mind! Once there was this guy who learned GS1. When he tried to learn about other languages, he went insane. There was also another one, a professional programmer, his head literally exploded just looking at GS1.
I actually went dizzy looking at a GS1 script. However, I'm not a professional programmer.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:58 PM
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