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Old 07-26-2008, 12:45 AM
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How does that help someone who wants to make a playerworld? Playerworlds need quests and ****, not an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of a desktop environment.
That's rather insulting. Nobody is going to script an open-source server, either. That's just deterrent to your entire point. A project like this can show new scripters how to use certain functions, tricks, and the like.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:54 AM
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Nobody is going to script an open-source server, either..
I wanted to do that with Mythic, I even had a thread with all scripts in it. But, I killed that idea when graal.net crashed and took them all with it. I might see myself doing it again in the future, undecided at this point.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:04 AM
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That's rather insulting. Nobody is going to script an open-source server, either. That's just deterrent to your entire point. A project like this can show new scripters how to use certain functions, tricks, and the like.
I am not sure what you are going on about, but I am tempted all the time to demand in the Future Improvements forum that everybody can view every server's scripts and save their levels. There is really no downside.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
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I am not sure what you are going on about, but I am tempted all the time to demand in the Future Improvements forum that everybody can view every server's scripts and save their levels. There is really no downside.
There is a downside, and that is that some people don't want their scripts on other servers. It won't happen, anyway.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:11 AM
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There is a downside, and that is that some people don't want their scripts on other servers. It won't happen, anyway.
Screw those people. They will get over it.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:27 AM
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Screw those people. They will get over it.
When I script something for a server, I don't want it to be released publicly. If I did, I would post it in the Code Gallery.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:29 AM
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When I script something for a server, I don't want it to be released publicly. If I did, I would post it in the Code Gallery.
Congratulations on being a selfish ****. Graal is short enough on good scripters that they being reclusive and wishing each other to fail is not going to make anyone happy.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:32 AM
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Congratulations on being a selfish ****. Graal is short enough on good scripters that they being reclusive and wishing each other to fail is not going to make anyone happy.
The problem is there are too many servers, not too few scripters, in my opinion.

If someone wants to create their own playerworld instead of helping someone else, that's fine. That doesn't mean we should make their server for them.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:56 PM
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I am not sure what you are going on about, but I am tempted all the time to demand in the Future Improvements forum that everybody can view every server's scripts and save their levels. There is really no downside.
Downside: I won't work for Graal servers anymore. Don't know about others, but I think the code gallery is easily accessable enough for player's who need scripts.
The last thing we need is servers which are practically exact duplicates of each other.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:00 PM
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Downside: I won't work for Graal servers anymore.
I am pretty sure we are prepared to take that risk.

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This is not going to happen anyway.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:04 PM
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I am pretty sure we are prepared to take that risk.

This is not going to happen anyway.
The implication is not that Graal cannot live without me, but that it cannot live without every scripter who feels the same way I do.

And don't be naive. Look at the amount of posts on this forum from 'developers' who are more interested in leeching from other scripters and having their threads locked then actually attempting to learn to script.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:14 PM
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The implication is not that Graal cannot live without me, but that it cannot live without every scripter who feels the same way I do.
The implication is that we could do well without you selfish ****s.

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And don't be naive. Look at the amount of posts on this forum from 'developers' who are more interested in leeching from other scripters and having their threads locked then actually attempting to learn to script.
If we had more useful, well-written scripts available to everybody, I am sure we would have more enthusiastic people figuring out how to script on their own.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:19 PM
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The implication is that we could do well without you selfish ****s.
It's not selfish to not want to release scripts you make. I don't see people saying that everyone should be able to use everyone else's graphics, animations, or levels.

Also, are you a scripter?
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:20 PM
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The implication is that we could do well without you selfish ****s.



If we had more useful, well-written scripts available to everybody, I am sure we would have more enthusiastic people figuring out how to script on their own.
To your first point: If we were all selfish there would be nothing in the code gallery. I've posted there on plenty of occasions when I wanted to help the newer developers out with certain system scripts.

To your second point: Very,very doubtful. If they need to work less, there is no reason why they would somehow change their thinking and decide to work more.
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