Community Scripting Project

excaliber7388 · #1 07-25-2008, 09:19 PM

Remember when I was working on the DR Computer? It was able to send in game email, chat, had some web browser functions, games, and more? Well, I was thinking, what if we made something like that?
It wouldn't need graphics, or to be called a computer though. Just a bunch of utilities you could get to from Graal, via a keyboard shortcut.

Press some button, and up pops this assistant. No need to open another program. It could have minigames, chat, a calculator, text editor, maybe even integrate scripting and staff tools into it. Instead of pressing F7 for the playerlist, F6 for the RC, F5 for the level, and F4 for the editor, why not have all those be part of this assistant, and accessible from one button? People would be able to assign keyboard shortcuts for the functions they use the most.

We'd all design a few functions, and one main one. It would be integrated into the graal client eventually (if we do it well enough).
What do you think? Want to start claiming functions and classes to make?

LoneAngelIbesu · #2 07-25-2008, 09:20 PM

Sounds interesting.

I'd claim something if I knew what you're looking to include.

excaliber7388 · #3 07-25-2008, 09:42 PM

Calculators, player image changers (setbody, save slots, etc).
Basically, all the utilities you find on servers, in one place. As well as some utilities you'd find on a computer, like a notepad, calculator, etc.

LoneAngelIbesu · #4 07-25-2008, 09:45 PM

Valikorlia has a notepad. It could be touched up to allow users more than one file... with Inverness' permission, of course.

I have a music playlist that I've been wanting to completely redo.

Inverness · #5 07-25-2008, 11:51 PM

Hmm, interesting.

Loriel · #6 07-26-2008, 12:28 AM

If anything the community should focus on something that is actually useful to most playerworlds or people wanting to create playerworlds, or on just documentation/learning material.

LoneAngelIbesu · #7 07-26-2008, 12:37 AM

We could document the entire project and release the scripts as open-source.

Loriel · #8 07-26-2008, 12:39 AM

How does that help someone who wants to make a playerworld? Playerworlds need quests and ****, not an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of a desktop environment.

LoneAngelIbesu · #9 07-26-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

How does that help someone who wants to make a playerworld? Playerworlds need quests and ****, not an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of a desktop environment.

That's rather insulting. Nobody is going to script an open-source server, either. That's just deterrent to your entire point.

A project like this can show new scripters how to use certain functions, tricks, and the like.

xXziroXx · #10 07-26-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Nobody is going to script an open-source server, either..

I wanted to do that with Mythic, I even had a thread with all scripts in it. But, I killed that idea when graal.net crashed and took them all with it. I might see myself doing it again in the future, undecided at this point.

Loriel · #11 07-26-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

That's rather insulting. Nobody is going to script an open-source server, either. That's just deterrent to your entire point.

A project like this can show new scripters how to use certain functions, tricks, and the like.

I am not sure what you are going on about, but I am tempted all the time to demand in the Future Improvements forum that everybody can view every server's scripts and save their levels. There is really no downside.

cbk1994 · #12 07-26-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

I am not sure what you are going on about, but I am tempted all the time to demand in the Future Improvements forum that everybody can view every server's scripts and save their levels. There is really no downside.

There is a downside, and that is that some people don't want their scripts on other servers. It won't happen, anyway.

The_Kez · #13 07-27-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

I am not sure what you are going on about, but I am tempted all the time to demand in the Future Improvements forum that everybody can view every server's scripts and save their levels. There is really no downside.

Downside: I won't work for Graal servers anymore. Don't know about others, but I think the code gallery is easily accessable enough for player's who need scripts.
The last thing we need is servers which are practically exact duplicates of each other.

Umat · #14 07-26-2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

How does that help someone who wants to make a playerworld? Playerworlds need quests and ****, not an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of a desktop environment.

Agreed. Seems stupid. :S

Rufus · #15 07-26-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

There is a downside, and that is that some people don't want their scripts on other servers. It won't happen, anyway.

Such an ignorant thought. You'd think developers on Graal had kind of gotten over that kind of thing and started aiming for something bigger, like improving the quality and amount of decent servers around. This certainly isn't helping anything. The actual downside would be people using these public scripts to apply for staff jobs, but that could happen even now with the Code Gallery and it hasn't been an issue so far.

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Why do you think that? If we work together to script something and it's released for Graal as a whole, posting the code only helps people learn. If we script a server and release the code, we're only providing copy/paste systems.

The former takes time, while the latter saves time in most cases. What is the point in 50-odd playerworlds all scripting the same generic systems (most of the time) when they could be focusing on their server-specific scripting.