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Old 10-15-2008, 02:28 AM
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This is the second and last time that I'm going address you on the topic, because you don't seem to be accepting the circumstances, and regardless of how many people keep telling you the same thing, you fail to realize the reasoning behind everything.

The Zone forums does not need five moderators. Now that we have that aside, let's address the fact that there are five moderators:

Does it hurt to have five moderators moderating one section of the forums?
Not if they're all doing their jobs without stepping the boundaries of their power.

Now that we've established that in an ideal situation having five people moderating a section of the forums would not hurt, let's address whether the current case falls into the ideal situation:

Are all of the moderators doing their job diligently, without crossing the boundaries of their powers and stepping into the realm of corruption?
Well, I can't answer this question, but this isn't the point of the thread, so this question should be dismissed off the bat. If you have a problem with an individual moderator, then you can take your claims with the forum administration about it.


Now that we have all of that aside, let's get into your logic (I'm going to summarize your points, I know that it's not word-for-word or anywhere near):

Rufus: A lack of moderation leads to an inactive forum.

This statement is false. Just because you're a moderator and your name is green in the active users list does not mean that people will suddenly gain interest in posting in the forums that you moderate. People gain interests on certain parts of the forums based on user activity. If a certain section of the forums is dead, then people won't be interested in it.This leads me to my next point: you don't need to be a moderator to promote discussion and to stir interesting events in a certain section of the forums. It helps if the moderator does this, sure, but you don't NEED to be a moderator in order to do this. In fact, moderator rights will do you very little in reviving a dead section of the forums since there are no active posts to begin with.

Rufus: Forum activity should not be left to the community alone.

The forums are for the community. A moderator can try with all of their will-power to revive a dead section of the forums, but without the community, the section will remain dead. It's up to the community to decide what section of the forums they want to post in, and it's also up to the community to decide what sections of the forums should be posted on. Now, I understand that an active moderator could promote forum activity, and SHOULD promote forum activity, but as stated before, one does not have to BE a moderator in order to do this, so you can't hold this statement solely for moderators. If you wish to try and revive a dead section of the forums, then bring up something interesting that might get people to post. If you're successful at keeping a section alive, then maybe you'll be rewarded with a moderator position to help make your job easier, but that definitely DOESN'T mean that you can't do it as a regular user.

I agree that moderators should try and keep the forums alive, but when it comes down to it all, a moderator can only do so much, which is why forum activity is based on the interest of the community members.

Rufus: People should be appointed to moderate dead sections of the forums:

Moderator positions in non-server specific sections of the forums should NOT simply be given to a person in HOPES of reviving the section. Moderator positions should be given as a reward to people that promote activity in these sections and that show an ability to properly enforce the forum rules. There's no point on assigning someone as a moderator that has not proven that they can take on the job effectively.

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I guess this is why people like yourself aren't dealing with players of this game more often.
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Why haven't we got 25 moderators per forum section? That wouldn't "hurts" either.
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Well hey pal.. that doesn't matter.. because I don't see why there needed to be 5 moderators so I guess we're both confused here!

And since you've resorted to arrogant insults, I'm done with you, and I'm done with this conversation.