Congrats to me!

DuckyJ · #1 08-12-2001, 01:36 AM

I am now a fully functional non-object-oriented novice C++ programmer, and since C++ is more advanced even in non object oriented design, I am a better Graal scripter YAH! anddddd...in two days I'll start learning object-oriented C++, CONGRATS TO ME! lol

Nastazio · #2 08-12-2001, 01:37 AM

i would lern C++ but i have no idea what it is! so yeah, good job

DuckyJ · #3 08-12-2001, 01:38 AM

thanks

View GraalOnline Profile · #4 08-12-2001, 01:39 AM

I'm going to try and learn Krull =D

Fai · #5 08-12-2001, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by DuckyJ
I am now a fully functional non-object-oriented novice C++ programmer, and since C++ is more advanced even in non object oriented design, I am a better Graal scripter YAH! anddddd...in two days I'll start learning object-oriented C++, CONGRATS TO ME! lol

umm...

.....

so you just all of a sudden became a C++ programmer like boom?

DuckyJ · #6 08-12-2001, 02:33 AM

No read the book on the 8 hour trip home from Myrtle Beach

Lionel-Jonson · #7 08-12-2001, 02:41 AM

I HATE YOU

sniperjoe10 · #8 08-12-2001, 02:41 AM

I have 2 C++ books I'm reading.. I'm getting into Windows programming now.

Zulithe · #9 08-12-2001, 02:44 AM

Hey that is great! I want to learn C/C++ someday too. Right now I'm trying to master html though. I know a lot of html but I want to fully absorb everything there is to know about it and then I'm going to move on to another language.

Asmodeus-James · #10 08-12-2001, 02:53 AM

I really want to learn CGI/Perl I hear it is very advance.
I pretty much learned HTML from friends, and looking at websites. Fai makes very cool websites.

Metal-Slug · #11 08-12-2001, 02:54 AM

ive mastered all of html cept style sheets, and im gonna take a c++ class this year at my high school, and i kow some QB, some VB, and a little of some others like WLS

Zulithe · #12 08-12-2001, 02:55 AM

If you want to start programming a good language to start with is Python, also Javascript makes a good second language

Metal-Slug · #13 08-12-2001, 02:55 AM

i dont think learning java script is needed, so many people know it and give away free scripts, so im set

Zulithe · #14 08-12-2001, 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by Metal-Slug
ive mastered all of html cept style sheets, and im gonna take a c++ class this year at my high school, and i kow some QB, some VB, and a little of some others like WLS

stay away from basic it is a waste of your time and effort. good luck with c/c++

Asmodeus-James · #15 08-12-2001, 02:57 AM

I hardly know any Java. ;(

Keyan · #16 08-12-2001, 02:58 AM

I took Visual Basic 1 last year in school, taking Visual Basic 2 this year in school, C++ 1, 2, and AP Computer Programming, which'll be Java when I take those 3 classes next year (senior year)

Asmodeus-James · #17 08-12-2001, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by Zulithe
stay away from basic it is a waste of your time and effort. good luck with c/c++

QBasic is mostly for making DOS games, right?

Zulithe · #18 08-12-2001, 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by Asmodeus-James
I really want to learn CGI/Perl I hear it is very advance.
I pretty much learned HTML from friends, and looking at websites. Fai makes very cool websites.

if you want to do server-side stuff you should consider PHP instead, it's very versatile and popular (if your host supports php)

Metal-Slug · #19 08-12-2001, 02:59 AM

basic was easy, i learned a little of it, and stopped, vb was a little easier, stopped after a while too

cheaterzx22 · #20 08-12-2001, 03:01 AM

I know VB. I'm thinkin about learning c++, i wanna program for my palm.

Metal-Slug · #21 08-12-2001, 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by Asmodeus-James

QBasic is mostly for making DOS games, right?

umm, thats all it does, is make programs for dos

Zulithe · #22 08-12-2001, 03:11 AM

Yes QBasic is for DOS, but VB is no better. Seriously how many GOOD programs have you seen programmed in VB? Probably not many if at all, just stay away from it, it's horrid. Use anything else but that.

Also you probably should not use assembly if only for the reason that it is very difficult.

cheaterzx22 · #23 08-12-2001, 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by Zulithe
Yes QBasic is for DOS, but VB is no better. Seriously how many GOOD programs have you seen programmed in VB? Probably not many if at all, just stay away from it, it's horrid. Use anything else but that.
that it is very difficult.

You haven't used VB much have you?

Zulithe · #24 08-12-2001, 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by cheaterzx22

You haven't used VB much have you?

I don't need to use it much in order to know that staying away from it is a good idea, it teaches you bad coding habits and there are superior languages out there.

cheaterzx22 · #25 08-12-2001, 04:06 AM

How does it teach you bad coding habits?

Skatche · #26 08-12-2001, 04:43 AM

Now then. First, congratulations to Ducky: another person learns that HTML isn't a programming language.

Seriously, being able to program (and, preferably program well) in C/C++ is a great skill to have. There are a lot of other good languages to have, namely (in my opinion): Perl, Python, LISP (not so much anymore), and Java (not Javascript, which is just good for making webpages do stupid pet tricks). Assembly isn't so useful anymore, since C/C++ offers you all the control assembly does along with being a high-level language... but if you're going to be writing an OS anytime soon, or if you have an intense desire to screw around with your computer, you damn well better know it.

Languages which (also in my opinion) suck, listed in alphabetical order, are: BASIC/VB. That is all.

BASIC is not even good for writing DOS programs/games, since they will end up with horrible, crappy graphics and sound, will be slow, and cannot reach the complexity of programs written in C without becoming unmanageable. And then, of course, there's the fact that you can't create stand-alone EXEs. VB is completely unportable (well... so is BASIC O_o), it doesn't offer much hardware control, and teaches bad programming habits (again, so does BASIC, which makes me wonder why they teach BASIC in school computer courses...). GraalScript also sucks because it teaches bad programming habits.

At the same time, though, it's so fun to screw around in.

Skatche · #27 08-12-2001, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by cheaterzx22
How does it teach you bad coding habits?

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure... all I can say is that although after learning C++ I could pick up new languages with relative ease, VB is still quite alien to me. I think it's the fact that a lot of stuff is automated or driven by menus rather than code...

cheaterzx22 · #28 08-12-2001, 04:47 AM

Still noone has given an example of a bad programming habit you learn from vb. And vb can have good graphics and speed when you use directx. I played around with some C++ programming for a while and it wasn't too hard to figure out after using VB.