Lending of Items

Deophite18 · #1 12-02-2008, 02:30 AM

Apparently there has been some confusion between players and staff regarding the rules about lending items to other players, so I am here to clarify. Since scamming is legal, lending item's to other players is done at your own risk.

It should only be done between people whom you really trust. You should not ask a GP or an Admin to watch a lending trade because it defeats the purpose of the scamming rules, and if you end up losing an item you let someone borrow it will NOT be restored.

DarkRenji · #2 12-02-2008, 02:51 AM

So if A staff lent me a item, and I refuse to return it, then it will not be restored, correct?

salesman · #3 12-02-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji

So if A staff lent me a item, and I refuse to return it, then it will not be restored, correct?

No, I will personally return it if you scam one of my staff members.

DarkReaper0 · #4 12-02-2008, 02:53 AM

Only idiots get scammed because they don't use the trade system or fail to trade with intelligent actions.

Deophite18 · #5 12-02-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji

So if A staff lent me a item, and I refuse to return it, then it will not be restored, correct?

No, if you have read the rules on the news gui then you would know that you cannot scam a staff member. But staff can't scam players either.

cbk1994 · #6 12-02-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji

So if A staff lent me a item, and I refuse to return it, then it will not be restored, correct?

You guys don't understand that the point of "no scamming staff" is not so that staff members can be careless, but so they can do what needs to be done. If they want to lend out an item to someone to test, and that person refuses to give it back, why shouldn't they be able to remove it by force?

If an Events Team member lends you a gun in an event, of course you should be expected and forced to give it back should you refuse.

It just makes sense.

Tigairius · #7 12-02-2008, 07:16 AM

I don't see why scamming should be legal at all, it's stupid. All it does is promote a dirty community.

DKH89 · #8 12-02-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

I don't see why scamming should be legal at all, it's stupid. All it does is promote a dirty community.

Agreed.

Scamming shouldn't be legal. One of my Ex girl friends brother use to play all the time, and he would basically scam 24/7.

Scamming bing legal is stupid. There are a bunch of 12 and 13 year old kids who play this game and can easily get tricked.

xAzerothx · #9 12-02-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

You guys don't understand that the point of "no scamming staff" is not so that staff members can be careless, but so they can do what needs to be done. If they want to lend out an item to someone to test, and that person refuses to give it back, why shouldn't they be able to remove it by force?

If an Events Team member lends you a gun in an event, of course you should be expected and forced to give it back should you refuse.

It just makes sense.

What if a staff member gets scammed by lending out one of their personal items. Should they be reinbursted?

DarkRenji · #10 12-02-2008, 07:53 AM

Its not fair GPs and staff are immune to scamming while nobody else is, they can just lend anything out and crap...

And I agree with Tig, scamming sucks.

When you have someone who pretends to be your friend for months just so they can scam you... thats when something is wrong x.x

TSAdmin · #11 12-02-2008, 01:40 PM

/withTig

WanDaMan · #12 12-02-2008, 02:29 PM

Scamming's fun especially if you get something good out of it!

xXziroXx · #13 12-02-2008, 02:34 PM

Since every single item trade is logged (I assume, otherwise, shame on you!) it shouldn't be rocket science to revert trades, thus preventing scamming to some extent.

DarkRenji · #14 12-02-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Since every single item trade is logged (I assume, otherwise, shame on you!) it shouldn't be rocket science to revert trades, thus preventing scamming to some extent.

There would be WAAAY to many trades to change back, and they could keep getting worse...

player1 got a PBP, then traded it to player 2, who traded it to player 3 and it would keep going

xXziroXx · #15 12-02-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji

There would be WAAAY to many trades to change back, and they could keep getting worse...

player1 got a PBP, then traded it to player 2, who traded it to player 3 and it would keep going

Could make a script that tracks the path of an item and then revert them plus all the other item paths it crossed on the way there. Maybe not possible with Era's system, but it is with mine, and I would expect no less on a server such as Era.