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Old 08-12-2008, 03:58 AM
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Raise Carrot damage back to 40?

Im just putting it out there to see what others think, since carrot used to be alot of fun to use, but now sucks with the 30 dam.
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Im just putting it out there to see what others think, since carrot used to be alot of fun to use, but now sucks with the 30 dam.
Go ahead and raise repaers to 80. Because by the time you swipe once with it, carrot = owned you.

Carrot at 40 was Oped, at 30 it's still pretty lame seeing how fast it is.
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:46 PM
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How come a carrot can kill someone in the first place?
If someone tried to stab me with a carrot it would be pretty wierd...
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:54 PM
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A frozen carrot would probably be able to pierce you pretty deep.

The only weapons I seriously use(d) are a muramasa and carrot, so my whole strategy was completely based around the carrot - Yes, it was crazy overpowered, but then you have to look at the range and how much energy it takes up. How often is someone going to get that close to you? How many swings will it take to kill, and isn't that just as many swings as you get with that energy consumption?

The 40 wasn't making it a terribly amazing weapon, because it was still the shortest range weapon after the electron, and you got maybe 4 swings out of it assuming you hadn't been using a jet pack or even attacking before used it. If anything, a weapon like that should be highly damaging, considering the other melee weapons have more range, less damage; the carrot should be less range; high damage
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Old 08-12-2008, 04:21 PM
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How come a carrot can kill someone in the first place?
If someone tried to stab me with a carrot it would be pretty wierd...
If you got shot and healed yourself with a cookie that would be pretty weird too.

I think the carrot is pretty balanced at 30. That means it takes 4 hits to kill a P2P and it takes 3 to kill a trial.
If it is 40, it takes 3 hits to kill a P2P and 2 hits to kill a trial. The carrot is still pretty strong at 30.
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I think the carrot is pretty balanced at 30. That means it takes 4 hits to kill a P2P and it takes 3 to kill a trial.
If it is 40, it takes 3 hits to kill a P2P and 2 hits to kill a trial. The carrot is still pretty strong at 30.
Then if the damage was left at 30, could either the range be extended,
have a longer stun time, or less freeze time? The carrot just lacks something still.
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Then if the damage was left at 30, could either the range be extended,
have a longer stun time, or less freeze time? The carrot just lacks something still.
The range (Based upon the actual size of the weapon) shouldn't be extended. It is really pretty powerful as it is. If someone uses the D move, it can be very deadly. You can talk to Dan, but I think it is pretty balanced (Almost overpowered) as it is.
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If someone uses the D move, it can be very deadly.
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A frozen carrot would probably be able to pierce you pretty deep.
o.O I don't think its frozen..

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o.O I don't think its frozen..
Iricia's pretty cold, don't ya know?
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Iricia's pretty cold, don't ya know?
How about the other maps?
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:47 PM
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A frozen carrot would probably be able to pierce you pretty deep.
A frozen carrot is brittle.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:23 PM
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A carrot for a weapon is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Almost, if not, as bad as Jbmod releasing a leaf blower.
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It was just laziness. Rather creating something for Zone (An Egg launcher?), it was just taken straight from Gk, along with the ganis.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:34 PM
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:25 AM
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im perfectly fine with 30 damage. ive gotten over 1k kills scince it changed. but if you change it to 40, i would pwn more.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:40 PM
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I'm fine with the 30 dmg. 40 was truely over-powered.
You know how fast you can kill a trial with carrot's special, hitting the D key? Seems fast enough to me.
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Then if the damage was left at 30, could either the range be extended,
have a longer stun time, or less freeze time? The carrot just lacks something still.
Less free time, that's retarded you wanna run outta energy that fast?Imo that would nerf carrot, just dodge its first few attack and your opponet is outta energy cuz less freeze time.
No offense, but just because you can't kill anyone with it doesn't mean it needs to be buffed. Knightmare w/e is fine with it and he's gotten plenty of kills.
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Less free time, that's retarded you wanna run outta energy that fast?Imo that would nerf carrot, just dodge its first few attack and your opponet is outta energy cuz less freeze time.
He means the freezetime of the player using the weapon...

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Does S poke while D slashes?
Other way around I think. D is like a jab, and S is like a pimp slap.
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Other way around I think. D is like a jab, and S is like a pimp slap.
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carrot damage is good at 30.
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A frozen carrot would probably be able to pierce you pretty deep.

The only weapons I seriously use(d) are a muramasa and carrot, so my whole strategy was completely based around the carrot - Yes, it was crazy overpowered, but then you have to look at the range and how much energy it takes up. How often is someone going to get that close to you? How many swings will it take to kill, and isn't that just as many swings as you get with that energy consumption?

The 40 wasn't making it a terribly amazing weapon, because it was still the shortest range weapon after the electron, and you got maybe 4 swings out of it assuming you hadn't been using a jet pack or even attacking before used it. If anything, a weapon like that should be highly damaging, considering the other melee weapons have more range, less damage; the carrot should be less range; high damage

No, leave it at 30, don't be silly. IT pwns anyone else using ANY melee weapon, so any smart person would only save it for a melee fight, not RUN AFTER SOMEONE with it... lol
It's also so fast that 3 hits to kill is easily fair/too easy in close range combat, even -with- energy loss. (As long as you can aim.)
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Im just putting it out there to see what others think, since carrot used to be alot of fun to use, but now sucks with the 30 dam.
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:02 PM
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well i'd like it back to 40 cuz its like saying change Rp damage to 3 per bullet.
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well i'd like it back to 40 cuz its like saying change Rp damage to 3 per bullet.
RP only shoots two anyway? Or four, cant remember. If you think it's more, its just two or four, though more are visible.
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RP only shoots two anyway? Or four, cant remember. If you think it's more, its just two or four, though more are visible.
RPs shoot two bullets, each consisting of two plasma bullets.
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