Sword (3D)

Switch · #1 02-28-2008, 03:23 AM

Made this in MilkShape 3D 1.8.2
Got really bored >.>
(It's an unregistered version of MilkShape so I can't save it [pity], so I took 3 screenies)

Comments?

Stephen · #2 02-28-2008, 03:30 AM

I guess everybody's got to start somewhere.

Switch · #3 02-28-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I guess everybody's got to start somewhere.

I was bored, and that was like the simplest goodish thing I could think of
Did it in like 30 minutes :o

Edit:
By the way if anyone has a MilkShape 3D 1.8.2 key please PM/IM me it

(ones that have already been used will still work: the program is not something online to check)

cbk1994 · #4 02-28-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch

By the way if anyone has a MilkShape 3D 1.8.2 key I'd like it

(ones that have already been used will still work: the program is not something online to check)

inb4lock

Switch · #5 02-28-2008, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

inb4lock

inb4inb4&lock

Galdor · #6 02-28-2008, 03:54 AM

its not a super expensive program :P

Switch · #7 02-28-2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Galdor

its not a super expensive program :P

Yeah, but I also doubt my parents would get me it, knowing them...
The only reason they pay for Graal is because it keeps me occupied when I'm bored.

Xterminator · #8 02-28-2008, 04:00 AM

Looks like a dagger not a sword.

Switch · #9 02-28-2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Xterminator

Looks like a dagger not a sword.

I guess...

I coulda made blade longer, but I only realised that after I closed the program (now it's lost forever except those pics) xD

Xterminator · #10 02-28-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch

I guess...

I coulda made blade longer, but I only realised that after I closed the program (now it's lost forever except those pics) xD

I see lol

ceserthen · #11 02-28-2008, 04:14 AM

Try Blender. It's actually pretty good for a free 3d imager.

Switch · #12 02-28-2008, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ceserthen

Try Blender. It's actually pretty good for a free 3d imager.

I'm already accustomed to this xD
But I'll give it a try I guess.

Edit:
It's so confusing

and I'm not in the mood to read 10,000 tutorials on just the damn interface...

Xterminator · #13 02-28-2008, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch

I'm already accustomed to this xD
But I'll give it a try I guess.

Edit:
It's so confusing

and I'm not in the mood to read 10,000 tutorials on just the damn interface...

LOL me niether

Galdor · #14 02-28-2008, 05:18 AM

yea I tried blender myself once and gave up instantly xD I think I managed to create a ball but that was it. Would probably be easier to learn the controls on a extremely advanced and big airplane then blender

I like milkshape coz its so simple and you get into it in no time.

PaperMario · #15 02-28-2008, 05:47 AM

Switch, I hope that you do know that by asking for a CD-Key you are doing something both illegal and stealing? xD

MrAnonymous_P2P · #16 02-28-2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PaperMario

Switch, I hope that you do know that by asking for a CD-Key you are doing something both illegal and stealing? xD

Ok who uses the internet and doesn't bootleg things? For real man come on, its the internet, if its not stolen someone most like gave it to you for free.

Codein · #17 02-28-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Galdor

yea I tried blender myself once and gave up instantly xD I think I managed to create a ball but that was it. Would probably be easier to learn the controls on a extremely advanced and big airplane then blender

I like milkshape coz its so simple and you get into it in no time.

Haha, I know what you mean about Blender.

I'd love to do some 3D work but I don't know where to start and which would be good for my own preferences. I wouldn't like to model for a game or anything. Maybe just make some nice pictures or something, which I can post-process through Photoshop, etc.

monolord · #18 02-28-2008, 11:39 AM

why pay for somthing you can get for free?
your plain stupid if you do

Galdor · #19 02-28-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by monolord

why pay for somthing you can get for free?
your plain stupid if you do

yea *puts on robber mask* well im off to the store cya.

Vimerge · #20 02-28-2008, 02:04 PM

Milkshape is a pain in the ass >.< working with triangles
I recommend u get 3D studio max (7-9)
and if not
get a keygen for milkshape..lol

zokemon · #21 02-28-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by monolord

why pay for somthing you can get for free?
your plain stupid if you do

Exactly! Because morals and ethics are stupid!

Crow · #22 02-28-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by monolord

why pay for somthing you can get for free?
your plain stupid if you do

There are alot of things I'm willing to pay for, because the creators just deserve it.

trifle · #23 02-28-2008, 08:50 PM

*cough* crack *cough*

You know ppl from Adobe and Discreet(creators of 3d studio max) have actually said that they don't really care if ppl have their products cracked, because the products are quite expencive, and if you have tought yourself how to use it, then later when you want to start selling stuff, you will ofcourse buy the programs you know.

Elk · #24 02-28-2008, 09:00 PM

=)

doesnt look that bad!

moc.lddezahp
...depleh eb tnac ti neht ti daer tnac uoy fi

DustyPorViva · #25 02-28-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by trifle

*cough* crack *cough*

You know ppl from Adobe and Discreet(creators of 3d studio max) have actually said that they don't really care if ppl have their products cracked, because the products are quite expencive, and if you have tought yourself how to use it, then later when you want to start selling stuff, you will ofcourse buy the programs you know.

I find that hard to believe. If they knew their products were too expensive and that it was okay for people to have cracked versions, they would just lower the price.

As for the 'why pay for it when you can get it for free' bit... well that's pretty easy to say when you're doing the stealing from being a computer, where most of it will never be able to be found. If it ever is the most they do is disable the software, you'll never face charges. I'm sure most wouldn't have the guts to walk into a store and stuff some things into their jacket and walk out with it.

I don't want to get into this whole debate as I don't really care, but why bring it up on the forums? Why encourage/discourage other people from doing it? If you like doing it, or don't... fine, do or don't! Is there really a reason to try to push it onto others? Not to mention the topic itself is disallowed on the forums so if you keep this up they'll most likely leave a ****load of deleted, spammy posts in the thread.

Stephen · #26 02-28-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Exactly! Because morals and ethics are stupid!

I completely agree with this statement.

But let's not get away from the point at hand here - this sword is fail.

Elk · #27 02-28-2008, 11:10 PM

my post!

*cough* ctrl + a *cough*

Switch · #28 02-29-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Galdor

yea I tried blender myself once and gave up instantly xD I think I managed to create a ball but that was it. Would probably be easier to learn the controls on a extremely advanced and big airplane then blender

I like milkshape coz its so simple and you get into it in no time.

Yea, I know xD

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Originally Posted by PaperMario

Switch, I hope that you do know that by asking for a CD-Key you are doing something both illegal and stealing? xD

Yeah but who cares. If they really wanted you to buy the program they'd hook it up online to make sure the key isn't used

Plus I think yesterday when I was first starting that sword I asked Stefan to buy me one and he said "Got any examples?" xD I think so he knew it wasn't for a 12 year old kid to say "YAY I GOT A KEY!" then not use it.

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Originally Posted by MrAnonymous_P2P

Ok who uses the internet and doesn't bootleg things? For real man come on, its the internet, if its not stolen someone most like gave it to you for free.

iknorite?

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Originally Posted by Codein

Haha, I know what you mean about Blender.

I'd love to do some 3D work but I don't know where to start and which would be good for my own preferences. I wouldn't like to model for a game or anything. Maybe just make some nice pictures or something, which I can post-process through Photoshop, etc.

Milkshape, from what I've seen/used, is probably the easiest 3D developing stuff there is (though maybe more complex when you go into real character/landscape detail). Get it and google some tutorials for it.

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Originally Posted by monolord

why pay for somthing you can get for free?
your plain stupid if you do

Free isn't always best, and sometimes it can be more complex than one you buy COUGH BLENDER COUGH!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vimerge

Milkshape is a pain in the ass >.< working with triangles
I recommend u get 3D studio max (7-9)
and if not
get a keygen for milkshape..lol

I already asked for a key, dude, for Milkshape, which is probably less money than 3D Studio Max... What makes you think I can get THAT instead xD

Switch · #29 02-29-2008, 04:21 AM

Made a gun now :o
I know it's not that great but, meh.
Took me maybe 20 minutes?

trifle · #30 02-29-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I find that hard to believe. If they knew their products were too expensive and that it was okay for people to have cracked versions, they would just lower the price.

As for the 'why pay for it when you can get it for free' bit... well that's pretty easy to say when you're doing the stealing from being a computer, where most of it will never be able to be found. If it ever is the most they do is disable the software, you'll never face charges. I'm sure most wouldn't have the guts to walk into a store and stuff some things into their jacket and walk out with it.

I don't want to get into this whole debate as I don't really care, but why bring it up on the forums? Why encourage/discourage other people from doing it? If you like doing it, or don't... fine, do or don't! Is there really a reason to try to push it onto others? Not to mention the topic itself is disallowed on the forums so if you keep this up they'll most likely leave a ****load of deleted, spammy posts in the thread.

Thats because I don't see taking a software off the net is the same as taking it from the store, think about the expenses of actually burning the disk and creating the box for the software, plus your ruining for the owner of the shop. And what I said is true.
They are quite pro ppl making these programs, and they know that the average interested student does not have 4500£ laying around.
Btw, these companies sell mostly to big companies and schools.

Btw, good start Switch.

cbk1994 · #31 03-01-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by trifle

think about the expenses of actually burning the disk and creating the box for the software

The cost, after creating software, of selling & distributing is virtually nothing.

James · #32 03-01-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

The cost, after creating software, of selling & distributing is virtually nothing.

Virtually nothing?

I work in printing, it's a much bigger process than you'd think. We print for some of the biggest companies in the business, Adobe, Apple, and Microsoft. They shell out millions.

You have to factor everything in. Paper, file preparation, digital editing, proofing, plating, printing, cutting, folding, stitching, and distribution to facilities. It all costs that corporation big money. You think that all just magically happens? It takes a ton of employees for the whole process.

Switch · #33 03-01-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Virtually nothing?

I work in printing, it's a much bigger process than you'd think. We print for some of the biggest companies in the business, Adobe, Apple, and Microsoft. They shell out millions.

You have to factor everything in. Paper, file preparation, digital editing, proofing, plating, printing, cutting, folding, stitching, and distribution to facilities. It all costs that corporation big money. You think that all just magically happens? It takes a ton of employees for the whole process.

I believe he means for the companies because they make enough to pay it off with "virtually nothing".

James · #34 03-01-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch

I believe he means for the companies because they make enough to pay it off with "virtually nothing".

It depends on the company, but it's still a ton of money, and I don't want him to think it's relatively cheap to print high quality imagery.

DustyPorViva · #35 03-01-2008, 02:01 AM

I'm sure the money they pay the people who work on that stuff goes up into the millions too. So really, that's a bad argument.

cbk1994 · #36 03-01-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by James

It depends on the company, but it's still a ton of money, and I don't want him to think it's relatively cheap to print high quality imagery.

I'm simply saying that all costs of packaging, etc are easily covered by the cost, with a ton of profit for them, unlike hardware manufacturing where you pay for parts, etc. Its surely much simpler and cheaper making boxes etc then it is making a computer.

So, like I said, once you get over the large cost of developing it, and then the relatively miniscule cost of the packaging, it's almost all profit.

Stephen · #37 03-01-2008, 04:01 AM

Business skills.

trifle · #38 03-01-2008, 05:24 PM

Developing the software ofcourse is more work and cost more then getting it out there in the shelf. What I'm saying is that if you get it online, you are just making a copy of the program, you are not taking a program from them.
And later when you got the money and you know how to work with a program, ofcourse you will buy the one you can and know.

Happens with movies aswell:

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Eric Wilkinson, the producer of the independent film “The Man from Earth”, wrote an email to RLSlog in which he thanks them for the free promotion they gave him. “In the future, I will not complain about file sharing” he wrote, “when I make my next picture, I just may upload the movie on the net myself!”