Notice to Playerworld Projects Lacking Funding

HoudiniMan · #1 01-29-2008, 12:29 PM

All playerworld project managers please note:

If your project is lacking funding and you cannot afford to (re)subscribe for your own server I highly recommend you do not upload your project to another player's server!

Once you load your content onto a server it belongs to that server according to Graal's content usage policy. At that point, the only thing protecting you from theft is the renter's word.

We can not force removal of content if you want to move the content, quit the project, or have a falling out with the owner of a server you are squatting on.

We do, on a case-by-case basis, try to prevent people from being taken advantage of. We do not condone a player uploading content only to be fired/removed from the project - and we will force removal in these situations - but they are difficult to investigate and do not guarantee the rights to your content remain with you.

Some players have asked about transferring subscriptions to servers from one player to another. This is not possible. You can not rent a server for anybody but yourself. If you have a sponsor, please privately work out a transfer of funds so you can rent your own server. I recommend Paypal's "request money" feature.

GraalOnline can not and will not enforce any agreements made between players.

Switch · #2 01-29-2008, 02:18 PM

Well said :o

MrAnonymous_P2P · #3 01-29-2008, 03:56 PM

This is helpful.

Rufus · #4 01-29-2008, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Once you load your content onto a server it belongs to that server according to Graal's content usage policy.

Link?

Pimmeh · #5 01-29-2008, 04:20 PM

Yeah, link please.
And what about stealing? I'd like someone to give something straightforward on this one.

Bell · #6 01-30-2008, 02:52 AM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=49824

Rufus · #7 01-30-2008, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=49824

"Outdated" - Most of the PWA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Graal's content usage policy.

..is what I'm after.

TSAdmin · #8 01-30-2008, 05:20 AM

I was going to post the exact same link Bell did, but did notice that little part Houdini added to it that you pointed out about "According to GraalOnlines content useage policy", so I went through all the GO rules and policies I could find, :s I couldn't find one specifically about content useage.

HoudiniMan · #9 01-30-2008, 07:57 PM

It simply isn't written out anywhere, which is why I made the thread.

We currently have a project under way in the PWA forum to put together an official outline of the policies of content rights and stuff like that, so it's coming soon

Pimmeh · #10 01-30-2008, 08:00 PM

So wait, since we never approved with anything readable, you cannot force any ownership over our uploaded content?

Bell · #11 01-30-2008, 08:51 PM

The policy used has been the one that Sparks did and was approved years ago. It just needs updated as there are so many more playerworld projects these days and staff hierarchy has changed. So yes, it is outdated which is why we are currently working on changing it. The basic principle is still the same though. If you make and upload anything to a server it belongs to that server alone and permission is needed for it to be used elsewhere.

I'm not sure where you mean there is nothing for anyone to actually read when there clearly is something for you to read though.

Reviving A Playerworld Project:
Any files uploaded into the file-manager becomes the sole property of Graalonline. When a player works for a playerworld as a 'Staff' member all files given to the manager to upload, or uploaded themselves, becomes property of Graalonline. Temporary usage rights (until shutdown of a playerworld) is given to the playerworld manager while the playerworld is online. This right of usage is terminated when the playerworld is shut down. If someone wants to use any of the files again (i.e.: Playerworld Revive Project) Graal and its representatives must be contacted before they can be uploaded again. To gain usage rights to any Playerworld previously online, the individual must contact Graal's representative and the last active manager(s) to gain permission and usage rights to the files of a shutdown Playerworld.

Rufus · #12 01-30-2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

It simply isn't written out anywhere, which is why I made the thread.

We currently have a project under way in the PWA forum to put together an official outline of the policies of content rights and stuff like that, so it's coming soon

LOL you can't post a thread quoting some usage policy that doesn't actually exist and expect people to take it seriously.

Crow · #13 01-30-2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

So wait, since we never approved with anything readable, you cannot force any ownership over our uploaded content?

Seems logic. Is and probably will apply.

cbk1994 · #14 01-30-2008, 11:56 PM

Funny thing is if you got mad at Graal, you could get your lawyer, and there are MANY things you could sue over.

Support center hacked
Absurd content policies WHICH DON'T EXIST
etc

Tigairius · #15 01-31-2008, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Funny thing is if you got mad at Graal, you could get your lawyer, and there are MANY things you could sue over.

Support center hacked
Absurd content policies WHICH DON'T EXIST
etc

Unfortunately they're not liable for any of that because you don't own the account names. You're just renting them from GraalOnline.