Graal Forums  

Go Back   Graal Forums > General Forums > Graal Main Forum (English)
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:30 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Ban threats in deletion reasons

I don't usually make threads like this, but it seems a little unneccessary and moreover unprofessional for mods to threaten to ban players in public. You might not want to leave deletion reasons like what's below, especially considering that it's in the rules that users are not supposed to discuss bans on the forums. Furthermore, this is within plain view.

Also, this thread is not about bans. It's about actions of the moderation, which I understand are upheld by Cyberjoueurs, but it's often unwise to contradict one's own set of rules to abide by.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	banmessage.PNG
Views:	233
Size:	3.1 KB
ID:	38761  
  #2  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:31 AM
pooper200000 pooper200000 is offline
The Blackswan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Asylum
Posts: 5,060
pooper200000 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to pooper200000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draenin View Post
I don't usually make threads like this, but it seems a little unneccessary and moreover unprofessional for mods to threaten to ban players in public. You might not want to leave deletion reasons like what's below, especially considering that it's in the rules that users are not supposed to discuss bans on the forums. Furthermore, this is within plain view.

Also, this thread is not about bans. It's about actions of the moderation, which I understand are upheld by Cyberjoueurs, but it's often unwise to contradict one's own set of rules to abide by.
yes that would be the most auspicious path to take compared to there current one where they treat us like contentious children.
__________________
Always Watching!
  #3  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:40 AM
excaliber7388 excaliber7388 is offline
Banned
excaliber7388's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: US
Posts: 5,229
excaliber7388 can only hope to improve
Send a message via AIM to excaliber7388
Moonie should get an infraction!
  #4  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:41 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Quote:
Originally Posted by pooper200000
yes that would be the most auspicious path to take compared to there current one where they treat us like contentious children.
It would be nice if people of your sort wouldn't jump in because they like to hear themselves talk.
  #5  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:42 AM
Rufus Rufus is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,698
Rufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draenin View Post
It would be nice if people of your sort wouldn't jump in because they like to hear themselves talk.
How ironic, you could have used a PM for this.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loriel View Post
Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
  #6  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:44 AM
pooper200000 pooper200000 is offline
The Blackswan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Asylum
Posts: 5,060
pooper200000 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to pooper200000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draenin View Post
It would be nice if people of your sort wouldn't jump in because they like to hear themselves talk.
read your sig rufus if i wanted to hear my myself talk spam would have started.
__________________
Always Watching!
  #7  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:45 AM
Crono Crono is offline
:pluffy:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sweden
Posts: 20,000
Crono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond repute
I agree with what Draenin is saying.
__________________
  #8  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:45 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus
How ironic, you could have used a PM for this.
Funny, I could have. However, I chose not to because it makes for decent discussion.
  #9  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:47 AM
pooper200000 pooper200000 is offline
The Blackswan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Asylum
Posts: 5,060
pooper200000 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to pooper200000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draenin View Post
Funny, I could have. However, I chose not to because it makes for decent discussion.
i didn't say that in this thread. hint it was rufus not me silly! who said the pm thing.
__________________
Always Watching!
  #10  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:54 AM
Rufus Rufus is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,698
Rufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draenin View Post
Funny, I could have. However, I chose not to because it makes for decent discussion.
You should know by now that this thread will get closed or deleted. It clearly states in the rules that you've obnoxiously mentioned, "If you feel that you have been wronged by a moderator, contact a higher member of staff such as a supermod or admin, and calmly explain the situation." and "The Private Message feature of the Graal Communication Centre allows users to send messages to one another without other members seeing them. If you wish to contact a person, to give them a message or request that they speak with you, always use PMs instead of making a thread purely for that purpose." which apparently you should already know, hilarious.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loriel View Post
Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
  #11  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:55 AM
pooper200000 pooper200000 is offline
The Blackswan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Asylum
Posts: 5,060
pooper200000 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to pooper200000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
You should know by now that this thread will get closed or deleted. It clearly states in the rules that you've obnoxiously mentioned, "If you feel that you have been wronged by a moderator, contact a higher member of staff such as a supermod or admin, and calmly explain the situation." and "The Private Message feature of the Graal Communication Centre allows users to send messages to one another without other members seeing them. If you wish to contact a person, to give them a message or request that they speak with you, always use PMs instead of making a thread purely for that purpose." which apparently you should already know, hilarious.
but he didn't which obviously he didn't have a problem but wished to make a statement that the entire community could coment on. issed:
__________________
Always Watching!
  #12  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:47 AM
Infernix Infernix is offline
Inferno (Level Designer)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: U.S,Maryland
Posts: 1,288
Infernix is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Infernix
This is a tiny matter but then again mods give out infractions to the littlest of things themselves. And they wonder why we complain every chance we get. But of course in their eyes they are the gods and they do no wrong.
  #13  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:49 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Quoted the wrong person by accident.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infernix
This is a tiny matter but then again mods give out infractions to the littlest of things themselves. And they wonder why we complain every chance we get. But of course in their eyes they are the gods and they do no wrong.
Yeah. I'm just saying that it might be a pretty good idea to keep that stuff private, especially considering that msot of them don't want to see threads like this one popping up because of it. It's really a matter of causality.
  #14  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:51 AM
pooper200000 pooper200000 is offline
The Blackswan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Asylum
Posts: 5,060
pooper200000 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to pooper200000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draenin View Post
Quoted the wrong person by accident.
ok. Just wanted to be sure.
__________________
Always Watching!
  #15  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:54 AM
Tyhm Tyhm is offline
Psionic Youth
Tyhm's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Babord, West Graal Deaths:1009 Kills:1
Posts: 5,635
Tyhm has a spectacular aura about
Makes sense to me. Ban or don't ban, threats don't work.

What of saying "+1 infraction"? That's just educational.
__________________
"Whatever," said Bean, "I was just glad to get out of the toilet."

"Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts, perhaps the fear of a loss of power."- John Steinbeck
"I'm only acting retarded, what's your excuse?" queried the Gord.
- My pet, the Levelup Gnome

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...&postcount=233
  #16  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:54 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Quote:
Originally Posted by pooper200000
ok. Just wanted to be sure.
That happens from time to time. I copy down bits and pieces from the forum and put them into the quick reply box in the order I need them in, and sometimes mistype names. I am usually quick about going back and editing, though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus
You should know by now that this thread will get closed or deleted.
I don't mind as long as mods remember what I've mentioned. I'm not really out to prove anything. It's just advice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus
It clearly states in the rules that you've obnoxiously mentioned, "If you feel that you have been wronged by a moderator, contact a higher member of staff such as a supermod or admin, and calmly explain the situation." and "The Private Message feature of the Graal Communication Centre allows users to send messages to one another without other members seeing them. If you wish to contact a person, to give them a message or request that they speak with you, always use PMs instead of making a thread purely for that purpose." which apparently you should already know, hilarious.
I do know. However, I am not making a post directed toward a person. It is directed toward a group of people.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyhm
Makes sense to me. Ban or don't ban, threats don't work.

What of saying "+1 infraction"? That's just educational.
That would probably be the better method. Moreover, closing and deletion reasons should probably also be a little less personal and more linked with the rules. For example, if a forum arguement arises and it escalates to a point beyond saving, it's not a good idea to write "Everyone was being stupid." Instead, just write "Flame War."
  #17  
Old 11-29-2006, 02:02 AM
excaliber7388 excaliber7388 is offline
Banned
excaliber7388's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: US
Posts: 5,229
excaliber7388 can only hope to improve
Send a message via AIM to excaliber7388
Actually, now if you question moderation, you can get banned.
Besides, who could he go to?
Unix doesn't give a damn, and Moonie is the forum godess.
You lose.
  #18  
Old 11-29-2006, 02:03 AM
Rufus Rufus is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,698
Rufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by excaliber7388 View Post
Actually, now if you question moderation, you can get banned.
Besides, who could he go to?
Unix doesn't give a damn, and Moonie is the forum godess.
You lose.
So what's he going to gain out of this?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loriel View Post
Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
  #19  
Old 11-29-2006, 02:06 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Quote:
Originally Posted by pooper200000
but he didn't which obviously he didn't have a problem but wished to make a statement that the entire community could coment on.
I'm not making a statement. I'm giving advice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exacliber7388
Actually, now if you question moderation, you can get banned.
I'm not asking a question. I'm giving advice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber7388
Besides, who could he go to?
Moonie, but I'm deciding not to, because we happen to have a newer supermod who could also take some of the advice as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber7388
Unix doesn't give a damn, and Moonie is the forum godess.
You lose.
In the long run, not really, considering that Unix and Moonie can look back to this statement whenever they wish to make a decision involving you.
  #20  
Old 11-29-2006, 02:13 AM
Door427 Door427 is offline
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 11
Door427 is on a distinguished road
"LOOK EVERYONE, LOOK WHAT MOONIE DID OMG OMG OMG EVERYONE LOOK AND LOOK AT ME, NOT DOING IT, I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN HER LOL LOL LOOK AT ME HURRY EVERYONE LOOK LOOK"

-Draenin
  #21  
Old 11-29-2006, 02:16 AM
Draenin Draenin is offline
Magnificent Bastard
Draenin's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 6,790
Draenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud ofDraenin has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Draenin Send a message via MSN to Draenin Send a message via Yahoo to Draenin
Thanks for representing the opinion of the fine young gentlemen of Classic, Door. I'm sure it will always have a place on my fridge next to the magnetic letters you used to spell out "I like corm."
  #22  
Old 11-29-2006, 02:25 AM
Darlene159 Darlene159 is offline
Administrator
Darlene159's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 12,470
Darlene159 has much to be proud ofDarlene159 has much to be proud ofDarlene159 has much to be proud ofDarlene159 has much to be proud ofDarlene159 has much to be proud ofDarlene159 has much to be proud of
These threads are not needed. Just gives another excuse to flame the mods. Next time, use a forum PM, or even a support ticket which myself, and the supermods can view.
__________________
FORUM RULES
GRAAL BIBLE (Lots of useful info)
INFO ABOUT REPUTATIONS.
INFO ABOUT INFRACTIONS.
HOW TO APPLY FOR THE NON-GRAAL RELATED FORUM (<<READ THOROUGHLY!)

SUPPORT: http://support.toonslab.com

NOTE: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN POSTS.
READ>THINK>POST
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright (C) 1998-2019 Toonslab All Rights Reserved.