Where is the ships?

myth-simba · #1 09-25-2006, 12:38 AM

Its great being in the pirate kingdom, dominating the seas and all but why doesn't the other kingdoms even try anymore?

Ship battling is just as important role as melee so why neglect it?
Ship battling in fact is actually harder as its 100% skill.
If your a kingdom leader and you cannot get your fleet to give us at least a little challenge and sink at least 5 ships then i think now you should openly admit defeat of your navy and as a kingdom leader get your fleet up to scratch.

The reason our fleet is dominating the ocean is not by numbers.
Its because we host many ship events, training sessions and tips and make sure our navy is at its best before setting sail.
I seriously think you should do the same for your kingdoms.

Come on kingdoms, give us a challenge!

MasterNuke · #2 09-25-2006, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by myth-simba

*taunt*

Sounds like you're just bored.

myth-simba · #3 09-25-2006, 08:52 PM

i wish that were true.
Fact is they have admitted it.

Zormite vs Dustari war the general at the time, i believe it was Bosh admitted their fleet would not stand against Cp.

And even the current war, i was told the fleet was not "top" priority.
Followed by rumours that they would not make a big appearance.
Its kinda disappointing really.

UltimatheChosen · #4 09-26-2006, 12:16 AM

The Dustari realize that we lack the skill to best CP on the ocean. As a result, we prepare the ground troops. Supply lines can still stay open through the dungeons, but Dustari has never been as navally (is that a word?) skilled as CP.

Zero Hour · #5 09-26-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UltimatheChosen

Dustari has never been as navally (is that a word?) skilled as CP.

Uh, right.

Zeltino · #6 09-26-2006, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by UltimatheChosen

The Dustari realize that we lack the skill to best CP on the ocean. As a result, we prepare the ground troops. Supply lines can still stay open through the dungeons, but Dustari has never been as navally (is that a word?) skilled as CP.

So you're telling me it's just going to be a PK Fest, because you're all running through the dungeons to come to CP.

UltimatheChosen · #7 09-26-2006, 04:09 AM

Heck yes.

Googi · #8 09-26-2006, 04:43 AM

Unsticking through the dungeons is ridiculous. Going through the entire dungeon route, however, is fair game.

Zeltino · #9 09-26-2006, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Unsticking through the dungeons ridiculous. Going through the entire dungeon route, however, is fair game.

Agreed.

But you know as well as I do that they will unstick. Dustari already said they weren't RPing for this.

It's not a war, it's just someone wanting to PK. That's it.

Luigi203 · #10 09-26-2006, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeltino

It's not a war

It's a slaughter.

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it's just someone wanting to PK. That's it.

Good Job, Zeltino! And I thought all the pirates had no brains

These days, you need an excuse to kill people. Just the other day I was PKing some noob, and Paulio was harrassing me to stop.

SayianOozaru · #11 09-26-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeltino

Agreed.

But you know as well as I do that they will unstick. Dustari already said they weren't RPing for this.

It's not a war, it's just someone wanting to PK. That's it.

Were going to war, because one of your CP members, wanted to kill our Queen, while she was on tag, blessing. So we will be getting our revenge.

Which, is the reason where using to go on a PK fest.

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Originally Posted by myth-symba

Its great being in the pirate kingdom, dominating the seas and all but why doesn't the other kingdoms even try anymore?

Ship battling is just as important role as melee so why neglect it?
Ship battling in fact is actually harder as its 100% skill.
If your a kingdom leader and you cannot get your fleet to give us at least a little challenge and sink at least 5 ships then i think now you should openly admit defeat of your navy and as a kingdom leader get your fleet up to scratch.

The reason our fleet is dominating the ocean is not by numbers.
Its because we host many ship events, training sessions and tips and make sure our navy is at its best before setting sail.
I seriously think you should do the same for your kingdoms.

Come on kingdoms, give us a challenge!

Dustari, doesn't need a navy. Our ground forces are more than enough, for any kingdom. Why take chances on boats, when we can ensure victory on land?

And also, CP is the only Kingdom with a decent navy, because;
1) your pirates, your supposed to only be on boats

2) CP has the most players of any kingdom. Because all the lvl 6 newbs, like Pirates.

I think that sums it up.

Raziel · #12 09-26-2006, 07:59 AM

I thought the reason was that Meiko was killed by a pirate. So, no more Meiko, then?

SayianOozaru · #13 09-26-2006, 08:02 AM

Uh...Im probly shouldn't say this...But Im not sure who Meiko is...If shes the queen, then yes, thats why were at war. She was blessing some 100+ flame swords she got from the Haunted House, and she was killed by a member of CP, while both were on tag (or so Ive been told).

cyan3 · #14 09-26-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

Were going to war, because one of your CP members, wanted to kill our Queen, while she was on tag,

But she was killed blessing when we was at war so thats not what started it.

Gothika · #15 09-26-2006, 08:53 AM

Chris is right that we dont have many numbers.
In fact we only have a hand full of good boat battlers. I'd say around about 7 or 8. And there is usualy only 2-4 of those that go to sea at any one time.

MasterNuke · #16 09-26-2006, 09:20 AM

I guess I should not sail a ship to satisfy the general consensus.

Ravelyn · #17 09-26-2006, 07:03 PM

Meiko was killed by a member of CP who was OFF TAG, so techinically i have no idea why we are having this war other than for the soul purpose of me creating 15 lightning walls in a row and watching the pretty lights.

ilovecurry · #18 09-26-2006, 10:19 PM

It seems that Forest and CP are the only kingdoms who RP!
Most of the other kingdoms dont RP during war, they just go through tunnels and unstick, then a PK fest ensues!
Look, if you want war, you got it. If you want a PK fest, well your just acting like fools.
And if you want to RP, use the entire tunnels, or use boats, because you couldnt just run down some stairs, then say "unstick me" then your at your enemys gates.... its plain stupid.
I love sinking ships, and im quite good, but nobody is ever on the seas anymore except the delt noobs and GRN!

Luigi203 · #19 09-27-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravelyn

Meiko was killed by a member of CP who was OFF TAG, so techinically i have no idea why we are having this war other than for the soul purpose of me creating 15 lightning walls in a row and watching the pretty lights.

I already said this war was going to be another PK fest.
lol, you obviously haven't been in a war fighting against Me, or Klay, or Bosh, or Lylic, let alone all of us.

Zeltino · #20 09-27-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

Were going to war, because one of your CP members, wanted to kill our Queen, while she was on tag, blessing. So we will be getting our revenge.

The only wrong thing with that statement? Dustarians were chasing the guy around who "killed Mieko" first. Oh, and he wasn't on tag when he killed Mieko. It's just a lame excuse =D.

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

Which, is the reason where using to go on a PK fest.

Because Dustari can't Role Play. The only kingdom I've ever seen on a Role Playing server that DOESN'T Role Play. That makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Raziel

I thought the reason was that Meiko was killed by a pirate. So, no more Meiko, then?

No, Dustari doesn't RP, remember? She's not dead.

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Originally Posted by Luigi203

I already said this war was going to be another PK fest.

I almost see no point in actually trying to turn this into a battle. It's just an excuse to PK some people. The Pirates will RP, the Dustarians will unstick and run around like chickens with their heads cut off.
That's about the extent of this so called "war".

Googi · #21 09-27-2006, 02:57 AM

If you guys just want to PK, then invade Zormite island and see if anybody shows up.

cyan3 · #22 09-27-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovecurry

It seems that Forest and CP are the only kingdoms who RP!
Most of the other kingdoms dont RP during war, they just go through tunnels and unstick, then a PK fest ensues!
Look, if you want war, you got it. If you want a PK fest, well your just acting like fools.
And if you want to RP, use the entire tunnels, or use boats, because you couldnt just run down some stairs, then say "unstick me" then your at your enemys gates.... its plain stupid.
I love sinking ships, and im quite good, but nobody is ever on the seas anymore except the delt noobs and GRN!

I remember you getting sunk by GRN and almost getting sunk all the time. And really it was really me Fayt and Zelt who delt with GRN.

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Originally Posted by Luigi203

I already said this war was going to be another PK fest.
lol, you obviously haven't been in a war fighting against Me, or Klay, or Bosh, or Lylic, let alone all of us.

I dont think Kuja has been in a war before.

ilovecurry · #23 09-28-2006, 12:13 AM

I was in a war once. Of course, i was completely unable to participate. It was a few days after i joined CP... it was that Zormite invasion thing. All i could do was suicide charge them, because back then i had not the slightest idea of ship battling.
And I have only been sunk twice by GRN. Once when they were using their tactics of "run, ram, then keep them trapped in a position that they cant move in and we can shoot them.", and the second time (I had another CP with me to witness this), we were boarded by a GRN, and when we got to the area of battle, the GRN blocked our cannons, so we were unable to fight.

cyan3 · #24 09-28-2006, 12:36 AM

But still me Fayt and Zelt have not been sunk once even if they newbie boat battle.

ilovecurry · #25 09-28-2006, 03:03 AM

Keep in mind you are a much more experienced member of Ts, and therefore, are much more in-the-know in counter-n00bism tactics

And, despite a previous loss before I was in Ts, i have only lost once. And, like i said, a GRN was blocking my cannons, so I was completely defenseless

Gothika · #26 09-28-2006, 08:59 AM

I could teach you a counter noobie tactic and all other sorts of tatics. But I dont tell you what they are. You have to battle me and see what I'm doing and study the way I battle.

Cubes · #27 09-28-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Luigi203

I already said this war was going to be another PK fest.
lol, you obviously haven't been in a war fighting against Me, or Klay, or Bosh, or Lylic, let alone all of us.

Wars are what make gk fun. So do PK fest. :]

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Originally Posted by ilovecurry

I was in a war once. Of course, i was completely unable to participate. It was a few days after i joined CP... it was that Zormite invasion thing. All i could do was suicide charge them, because back then i had not the slightest idea of ship battling.
And I have only been sunk twice by GRN. Once when they were using their tactics of "run, ram, then keep them trapped in a position that they cant move in and we can shoot them.", and the second time (I had another CP with me to witness this), we were boarded by a GRN, and when we got to the area of battle, the GRN blocked our cannons, so we were unable to fight.

good times :]

myth-simba · #28 09-28-2006, 06:40 PM

i see all your points but the thing is.
No matter how much Cp slaughters your fleet there is still no point in giving up.
There was an event i hosted which was "sink the tornado" ship.

I was sailing the ship known as tornado and there was 11 Cp ships turned up.
and 4 civilian ships which all got sunk and the event was called off due to nobody winning and the runners up got the prizes.

If i can sink 11 Cp ships with 400 boards i cannot see no reason for you guys not being able to.

I'm good at ship battling but i'll admit it i'm no god at ship battling. nobody is.

Making excuses like (We cannot take their fleet) and so on is really pointless.

If at first you don't succeed try try again.
Cmon give us a challenge.

If everyone keeps backing away from the pirate's fleet then we'll have nothing to do instead but interupt boat racing events and things.

ilovecurry · #29 09-28-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by myth-simba

i see all your points but the thing is.
No matter how much Cp slaughters your fleet there is still no point in giving up.
There was an event i hosted which was "sink the tornado" ship.

I was sailing the ship known as tornado and there was 11 Cp ships turned up.
and 4 civilian ships which all got sunk and the event was called off due to nobody winning and the runners up got the prizes.

If i can sink 11 Cp ships with 400 boards i cannot see no reason for you guys not being able to.

I'm good at ship battling but i'll admit it i'm no god at ship battling. nobody is.

Making excuses like (We cannot take their fleet) and so on is really pointless.

If at first you don't succeed try try again.
Cmon give us a challenge.

If everyone keeps backing away from the pirate's fleet then we'll have nothing to do instead but interupt boat racing events and things.

Quoted for truth.
Sure, we have a tough fleet, but say... you send every single person you have at us many many times over... were bound to wear down after a *few waves

*few hundred*

myth-simba · #30 09-28-2006, 09:42 PM

so stop backing down like cowards when you see our ships!

Googi · #31 09-28-2006, 09:49 PM

War is not a "defeat teh ship!!!1" event like the ones Raziel holds. In a war, boarding is a legitimate strategy. So is using magic.

Gothika · #32 09-29-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

So is using magic.

You mean using magic to pk the person on the boat from your boat?
Yes.. thats very honourable.

Googi · #33 09-29-2006, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gothika

You mean using magic to pk the person on the boat from your boat?

Yes, and also using magic to block ships. It's a war, not an event.

Crono · #34 09-29-2006, 12:42 AM

They could have done so much more for GK's battling.

All wars are really, by the looks of it, are giant everyday pk fests.

ilovecurry · #35 09-29-2006, 03:04 AM

The PK fests are boring. All the attackers do is run around, unstick, etc.
The defenders cant do anything exept hide in the castle.
It takes no skill on either side.
Boat battles = challenging, skill-needing, fun!

Draenin · #36 09-29-2006, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovecurry

Boat battles = challenging, skill-needing, fun!

You get in a tub that can't steer right and take random pot shots at your enemy like Ray Charles at a baseball game.

protozero · #37 09-29-2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

You get in a tub that can't steer right and take random pot shots at your enemy like Ray Charles at a baseball game.

So, the PK fest is running around in circles and quickly pressing Q ( inventory ) and then one of your 200 resotre scrolls and then maybe some level 107 protection scrolls and whacking at each other. At least on the boats it's fair for everyone, but I like the battles without the lame resist potions/scrolls.

ilovecurry · #38 09-29-2006, 04:41 PM

Yeah. SOME of us dont have the time to spend hours a day leveling on GK.
We have something called "A LIFE"
So boat battles are fun for everyone, instead of just random level 55-110s running around PKing everyone in one hit

myth-simba · #39 09-29-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

War is not a "defeat teh ship!!!1" event like the ones Raziel holds. In a war, boarding is a legitimate strategy. So is using magic.

Yeah but at least use some ships.
We pirates melee for the ewntertainment for you guys.
Why not sometimes repay the favour by having more than 5 ships out.
you've got enough members there.

Also about this war.
If the war is non pk then its not technically a war its a pk fest.
A Rp war should consist of melee and naval units.
or if it is made up of a few battles over set dates some should be melee and some battles naval and get a points system going.

And if someone pks you off tag then stop being childish and declaring wars against the kingdom.
If someone pks you on tag for no reason consult the leader. its simple.

(although i know this war was arranged)

Rp wars should really by run by a EM.

ilovecurry · #40 09-29-2006, 10:15 PM

Yeah, Kingdom Wars need to be run by EMs. Lets say... 4 minimum battles,
10 battles max, each battle will be mixed land and sea. No tunnel unsticking, or ferry usage. Get to the island by boat, if you are sunk before you get there, either swim to shore, or go back to the cesspool you came from. There should also be a regulated amount of times you can return to the fight after dying.
The defenders have more lives than the attackers.
Hows this?